Canada's 10 Tallest U/C - Page 426

dleung · #**8501** Posted **May 24, 2023, 5:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by Maldive

Concord Canada House

I suppose it's only fair that, since Vancouver got an underwhelming transit line representing Canada, Toronto likewise should get an generic-looking condo representing Canada

samne · #**8502** Posted **May 24, 2023, 5:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

I find those towers just hideous. Perhaps even worst than a spandrel glass tower. The podium is okay. Belongs in a suburban City Centre than downtown Toronto.

I think the execution of the patterns didn’t turn out as planned. It just looks really off and not in a whimsical way.

GeneralLeeTPHLS · #**8503** Posted **May 24, 2023, 5:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by samne

I think the execution of the patterns didn’t turn out as planned. It just looks really off and not in a whimsical way.

I agree. It feels like it's trying to hard to be different, even though it looks similar in massing to Harbour Plaza. While it's not the kind of balcony "play" we see in most condos, it reads as trying to be more than what it is, and not hitting the mark.

I know what the pattern is based off of, but making basically pixel art of it over 50 floors oif balconies doesn't work well from my (not IRL) view.

WhipperSnapper · #**8504** Posted **May 24, 2023, 5:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by TorontoDrew

The whole video wasn't about the sales of the structure, and he may not have even been a sales rep I don't recall.

And of course the structural engineering is a huge thing when talking about how tall a building can rise. The point is the tower has been designed with all of the engineering in place to grow to that height. Much easier to plan for that height before shovels hit the ground.

Yeah, a supertall's engineering is much different from a mid rise. Is the engineering between a 310 metre tower and a 340 metre all that much different especially if its anchored in bedrock? I can't believe the structural engineering is specific to the 310 metre height. I've often heard that building codes are over engineered. Also, wouldn't like a larger dampener overcome additional tensile loads from the taller height?

WhipperSnapper · #**8505** Posted **May 24, 2023, 5:43 PM**

Re: Sugar Wharf

I have to agree on the sadly. It is one of the more organic patterns out there. I think they erred on the colours and/or shades used.

Maldive · #**8506** Posted **May 26, 2023, 5:13 PM**

CIBC SQUARE | 241.39m | 50s | Hines | WilkinsonEyre l Phase 2 u/c

sammmy

As noted at UT by @innsertnamehere, if you look close you can see the cantilever through the glass in the rendering.

UT

BermudaTO37

Northern Light

The One | 338.3m | 94s | Mizrahi Developments | Foster + Partners l u/c

Pouring the 30th(?) floor on the south side, as workers scurry to finish laying conduit and rebar on the 3 other sides.

BloorMan

Future glazing/cladding work will happen behind the new truss system just installed and be revealed as the system moves upward.

Johnny Au

Johnny Au

Today's pour complete.

BloorMan

Benito

Forma | 308m | 84s | Great Gulf | Gehry Partners l site shoring

khaldoon

The site is boring (as in drilling/shoring ;-).

Red Mars

khaldoon

The shorter sibling to the super-tall is the first one underway.

UT
I know it ain't u/c but it ain't a proposal either lol.

yaletown_fella · #**8507** Posted **May 27, 2023, 3:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by dleung

I suppose it's only fair that, since Vancouver got an underwhelming transit line representing Canada, Toronto likewise should get an generic-looking condo representing Canada

The Maple Leaf motif will probably make it look even worse than if it was just a typical cheapo spandrel matchbox.

Im not sure I'd call the Canada Line underwhelming, apart from low capacity trains, which should be feasible to upgrade. It was completed quickly within a reasonable budget.

The over budget endlessly delayed Eglinton LRT project which will have to stop at traffic lights in the above ground portion is what I'd call underwhelming.

Nouvellecosse · #**8508** Posted **May 27, 2023, 3:48 AM**

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Originally Posted by yaletown_fella

The Maple Leaf motif will probably make it look even worse than if it was just a typical cheapo spandrel matchbox.

Im not sure I'd call the Canada Line underwhelming, apart from low capacity trains, which should be feasible to upgrade. It was completed quickly within a reasonable budget.

The over budget endlessly delayed Eglinton LRT project which will have to stop at traffic lights in the above ground portion is what I'd call underwhelming.

Yeah the Canada Line is actually quite impressive in some ways. Its aesthetics are quite plain and utilitarian but its cost and efficiency are great. And the capacity issue is quite overstated. Yes the trains are short, but it's also part of an RT system that's as long as those in Montreal and Toronto while serving a metro area much smaller than them. The crowding is mainly due to it operating at a lower frequency than it's capable of.

The new metro system in Copenhagen, which is in a metro area of the same size, has trains only 39m long and 2.6m wide (compared to 41x3m). Yes they also have the S-tog system, but the Skytrain is over twice the length of the Copenhagen Metro.

I'd say it's neither under nor over whelming. It's quite an appropriately whelming line.

caltrane74 · #**8509** Posted **May 27, 2023, 1:35 PM**

Will we be able to see the trains through this glass passing over the road?

craner · #**8510** Posted **May 27, 2023, 4:57 PM**

Thanks again for the regular updates on all these biggies Maldive.

CIBC SQUARE appears to be such a strange lot for a major office tower - wedged between the tracks and what looks to be a back alley.

GeneralLeeTPHLS · #**8511** Posted **May 27, 2023, 5:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by craner

Thanks again for the regular updates on all these biggies Maldive.

CIBC SQUARE appears to be such a strange lot for a major office tower - wedged between the tracks and what looks to be a back alley.

It is an odd siting, but I'm glad this office complex helps fill in the area a bit more. The area in around Union Station always felt too open, even if that open sky was a welcome sight in what's always been a busy part of town. There's still plenty of sky around, even with what's now going up.

I'm just hoping the Public Dominion building isn't intensified.

Maldive · #**8512** Posted **May 28, 2023, 1:51 PM**

Some aerials from ADRM’s trip up the tower:

160 Front West | 239.87m | 46s | Cadillac Fairview | AS + GG l u/c

ADRM

Rascacielo

Bonus: View from the top of the TD Centre (“Doors Open Toronto” visit) looking at the new TD kid on the block.

Rascacielo

Concord Sky | 299m | 85s | Concord Adex | a—A l u/c

ADRM

UT

CIBC SQUARE | 241.39m | 50s | Hines | WilkinsonEyre l Phase 2 u/c

ADRM

Maldive · #**8513** Posted **May 29, 2023, 1:57 PM**

CIBC SQUARE | 241.39m | 50s | Hines | WilkinsonEyre l Phase 2 u/c

slickpete83

Red Mars

steveve

Looking north across the park/deck over the rail corridor that will link the 2 phases.

steveve

Foreground is Phase 2 u/c with the completed Phase 1 behind.

One of the cranes for Pinnacle’s Phase 2 super-tall “SkyTower” is visible left of centre in front of The Toronto Star building and farther left is the completed Pinnacle Phase 1 known as “Prestige”.

A Torontonian Now

160 Front West | 239.87m | 46s | Cadillac Fairview | AS + GG l u/c

Some great close-ups of glazing the crown.

Red Mars

Marcanadian

steveve

Sugar Wharf Condominiums (Phase 1) | 231m | 70s | Menkes | a—A l u/c

Both towers topped out and clad.

A Torontonian Now

The newly opened office component of Sugar Wharf Phase 1 with the Redpath sugar refinery behind.

A Torontonian Now

rdaner

Rascacielo

Maldive · #**8514** Posted **May 31, 2023, 9:31 PM**

Pinnacle One Yonge | 344.58m | 105s | Pinnacle | Hariri Pontarini l u/c

SkyTower will rise on the far left (behind The Toronto Star building). Phase 1 ‘Prestige’ is complete on the left.

steveve

steveve

Phase 1 on the extreme left side with Sugar Wharf Phase 1 in the centre.

steveve

Phase 1

steveve

Inside the Phase 1 community centre in the podium.

steveve

Looking north-west from a presentation to Waterfront Design Review Panel regarding the requested height increase.

Northern Light

Crown lighting.

Northern Light

Forma | 308m | 84s | Great Gulf | Gehry Partners l excavation

Diggin’ the start on our own Frank Gehry skyscraper.

sinasdf

Phase 1 on the right below.

UT

Mississauga

M3 at M City | 260.29m | 77s | Rogers Real Estate | Arcadis l u/c

Working on the first tower floor (above the podium).

drum118

khaldoon

UT

Nouvellecosse · #**8515** Posted **May 31, 2023, 9:52 PM**

Almost looks like the Sugar Wharf buildings are in camo.

WhipperSnapper · #**8516** Posted **May 31, 2023, 10:11 PM**

Hey, these would sharp in the discontinued blue US Navy working uniforms.

MonkeyRonin · #**8517** Posted **Jun 1, 2023, 1:13 AM**

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Originally Posted by Nouvellecosse

Almost looks like the Sugar Wharf buildings are in camo.

Now if only they could camouflage into to the sky and just disappear...

WhipperSnapper · #**8518** Posted **Jun 1, 2023, 3:01 PM**

Even better

apparently the inspiration is magnified sugar molecules so, therefore, we should like it

niwell · #**8519** Posted **Jun 1, 2023, 3:05 PM**

I actually don't hate Sugar Wharf as much as some (which isn't to say I like it, they suck) but all I can think about is how badly they are going to age. If that design looks bad now, just wait until stuff starts ageing and needs to get replaced!

WhipperSnapper · #**8520** Posted **Jun 1, 2023, 3:41 PM**

There's a group of forumers that are hoping for such a day thinking the need to get replaced will resulting in actual replacement and with higher quality finishes. I'm far less optimistic. My expectations are facades of plyable silicone before there's serious consideration given to replacement. The replacement will be the cheapest accepted by the building codes.