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Old Posted Oct 2, 2020, 4:10 PM
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I am just curious , what is the reason the streets are every halfblock there? Dearborn station?
Yes. When the School Section was originally subdivided, they didn't think many people would ever live that far south of the river and Lake St. So south of Jackson, the blocks were much larger, to allow market gardens.

Hathaway's map of Chicago, 1834:



But Chicago outgrew expectations, and as also happened in Philadelphia and Washington City, new streets were cut through the large blocks to be able to sell more houselots. The narrow streets we now call Federal and Plymouth were cut through those larger blocks by 1853:

Hart's map of Chicago, 1853:



In the early 1880s, some late-arriving railroads organized the Chicago & Western Indiana R.R. to build a rail approach through the South Side and a downtown terminal, which they wanted to put at Dearborn & Jackson. The city didn't want the smoky locomotives that close to the business blocks, though, and promised to extend Dearborn south to Polk if they'd build the station there.
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can't tell too much from that, but at first glance it does appear to be a hospital in Ohio

I'd actually jotted down Indiana, but you're right.




Fitzgerald's just generally bad at this design stuff.
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A raw 19th floor of the new 145 S Wells

View-obstructing columns should always be clad in mirrors!

Couldn't tell if that was a joke or not, but I think that's insulation (whether for ductwork or structure, I dunno)
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Old Posted Oct 2, 2020, 5:58 PM
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Thanks Mr Downtown! Love seeing the old maps! The ward boundaries back then were so long and narrow!
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Old Posted Oct 2, 2020, 6:04 PM
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Couldn't tell if that was a joke or not, but I think that's insulation (whether for ductwork or structure, I dunno)
It is insulation, but I am serious about cladding corner columns in mirrors. Just look at the effect!
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Old Posted Oct 3, 2020, 4:34 AM
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The proposed Lagrange designed building at Oak & Dearborn is asking for a zoning change. 465 ft, 75 units, 160 parking


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Cassion rigs on site at Ogden commons in the IMD. Looks like Stallworth.
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601 S Dearborn looks like trash. Can't they just mirror the Transportation Building?
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Better than his other recent projects, imo, especially the Deco-esque crown..but that isn't intended as a compliment.
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Better than his other recent projects, imo, especially the Deco-esque crown..but that isn't intended as a compliment.
Don't worry, he will find a way to disappoint. I've gotten "optimistic" about a few of his designs and been disappointed every. gd. time. I don't understand why he thinks white windows (or silver) are a good fit for this style, but he keeps repeating this mistake.

This one seems fairly similar to Ritz Carlton Residences with the New York-esque Deco crown. I think that one turned out badly, but it's in such a skyscaper forest, plus mid-block site, I've never actually seen a good photo of the crown. There, he even had the Farwell Building to use as reference with its dark windows and he STILL went with almond-colored windows on the new portion.

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Cassion rigs on site at Ogden commons in the IMD. Looks like Stallworth.
Ogden Commons or Gateway? Ogden Commons is the low-rise CHA one by Mt Sinai, so technically not part of the IMD - and I don't think it would need caissons anyway. If it's Gateway, that's an awesome surprise... they clearly said a few months ago that they weren't looking to break ground this year on the hotel/res towers.
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Cassion rigs on site at Ogden commons in the IMD. Looks like Stallworth.
Sorry, what project? Do you have a render? I'm drawing a complete blank..
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Posted these in the Photography forum, thought they merited a post here, considering so many under-construction projects are visible:





(Both from https://www.flickr.com/photos/bartshore/)
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This one seems fairly similar to Ritz Carlton Residences with the New York-esque Deco crown. I think that one turned out badly, but it's in such a skyscaper forest, plus mid-block site, I've never actually seen a good photo of the crown. There, he even had the Farwell Building to use as reference with its dark windows and he STILL went with almond-colored windows on the new portion.



Ogden Commons or Gateway? Ogden Commons is the low-rise CHA one by Mt Sinai, so technically not part of the IMD - and I don't think it would need caissons anyway. If it's Gateway, that's an awesome surprise... they clearly said a few months ago that they weren't looking to break ground this year on the hotel/res towers.
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Sorry, what project? Do you have a render? I'm drawing a complete blank..
Sorry, I mean at IMD gateway. Looks like they are about to start a highrise there.

Ogden Commons already has a 3 story building almost finished and that did require small cassions.
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Old Posted Oct 4, 2020, 2:19 PM
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I’m not surprised IMD is moving forward. They re probably flush with more cash than they know what to do with, see a boost in life sciences coming, and obviously low interest rates, a relative dearth in new construction, and as I’ve argued before, a 1.5 to 2 year buildout time which easily puts as well past the pandemic. No better time than now
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Old Posted Oct 4, 2020, 10:49 PM
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Here's the only redering of this project that is any good:


Epsteins website

They have permits for both the hotel and residential. Assume they will move forward on both, they already potholed the whole site.

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Posted these in the Photography forum, thought they merited a post here, considering so many under-construction projects are visible:





(Both from https://www.flickr.com/photos/bartshore/)
Makes you realize that Wolf Point will complete a river canyon of 700-800' towers from the lake to around Jackson.
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Those Gateway renderings are super generic (and old)... I'm pretty sure the final product on the highrises will look different than what we've seen thus far, except maybe with regard to general massing.
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(Both from https://www.flickr.com/photos/bartshore/)
We are so lucky to have River Point. To me, it is an instant icon. It draws the eye more-so than any other new tower in the photo. Seems, though, that it doesn't get the attention it deserves.
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I think architecture buffs certainly gave River Point plenty of attention. Average joes, not so much.

IMO River Point is the 2010s version of Smurfit Stone. It's a distinctive building but the average person has no reason to think about it, there's no public component that people are drawn to. It's just another faceless corporate tower even if the architecture is interesting.

Most people only know buildings in relation to their personal experience, or in connection with companies/institutions they recognize (Tribune Tower, Board of Trade, Daley Center, etc). In today's office market though, even recognizable companies jump around quite a bit, between spaces and even between cities, so they don't get associated with specific buildings. Does the average Chicagoan realize that MolsonCoors is headquartered in Chicago? Or Quaker Oats/Gatorade? If they do, can they point to the building where these companies are located?
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