noirish Los Angeles - Page 1189

CityBoyDoug · #**23761** Posted **Sep 22, 2014, 9:28 PM**

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Phaeton, Los Angeles 1931

ebay

Hmmm...is that the same man in all the poses? Is this some sort of photo-trickery-?

No ER, this is not a ''trick'' photo. This is a dodecagonic family. Its when all the children in one family look the same....this is very rare.

Retired_in_Texas · #**23762** Posted **Sep 22, 2014, 9:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Phaeton, Los Angeles 1931

ebay

Hmmm...is that the same man in all the poses? Is this some sort of photo-trickery-?

Looks like fun with Photo Shop with a number of shots of the same subject in different posses being overlaid on a photo of a 1931 car and it all being made to look like 1931 via a bit of shading to make it look like it would have been taken in 1931. Nothing in the photo is probably from 1931 aside from the car itself. The shadow beneath the car is the first clue when compared to the shadow behind the legs of those supposedly seated on the running board. Somewhat skillfully done, but far from perfect.

Godzilla · #**23763** Posted **Sep 22, 2014, 9:50 PM**

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Of note to some, in '29, J.L. Maddux's airlines is listed as having offices at 2100 S. Figueroa, where he also operated a Lincoln Motor Cars franchise. (Westwood 4114)http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...rch_doc=maddux "Combining the most beautiful automobile showrooms in the West with the largest and finest service establishment in California for the perfect maintenance of the LINCOLN."http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...rch_doc=maddux Another listing is "4370 W. 5th St," was probably Mr. Maddux's residence. This would have been very close to Bullocks Wilshire bearing the Maddux name on its ceiling mural. It is at this Figueroa address where he took delivery of one or more of his Stout (later Ford) Tri-motors. http://www.dmairfield.com/airplanes/NC1102/index.htm

Jack Maddox

http://www.ci.glendale.ca.us/gcatg/p...addux_jack.htm

http://www.google.com/

http://www.dmairfield.com/airplanes/NC1102/index.htm

In '32, Jack Maddux rested his head at 49 W. Fremont Place.

Jack Maddux in '28

http://alplm-cdi.com/chroniclingilli...55b15870c8.jpg

Could this unidentified image of Maddux Inc. Lincoln be at 1353 N. Vine or 9230 Wilshire, in Beverly Hills? http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=15255 (2115 Auto Loans?)

http://beforeitsnews.com/mediadrop/u...2d3250d713.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...KG6EIVFPMB.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...G1GE21EMSJ.jpg

Of course, the Late Hillcrest Cadillac later occupied the Maddux location at 9230 Wilshire. As noted in related posts, Hillcrest had more than one locale.

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/janep...75/375_900.png

1930 - For Maddux service, 9230 Wilshire, Beverly Hills (Spacious enough to service your tri-motor.)

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single.../id/3921/rec/1

1929 - Maddox hangar (Grand Central Terminal - Glendale)

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single.../id/4180/rec/3

fhammon · #**23764** Posted **Sep 22, 2014, 9:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

No ER, this is not a ''trick'' photo. This is a dodecagonic family. Its when all the children in one family look the same....this is very rare.

I believe the correct term in this case would be "chrysletonic".

ethereal_reality · #**23765** Posted **Sep 22, 2014, 9:56 PM**

I found this group of photographs of downtown Los Angeles several years ago on ebay. I just re-discovered them on an old CD of mine.
The seller didn't include dates or any other specific information. (which is why I hesitated to post them when I first found them)

#1

This one I know, it's 326 South Spring Street, once home to World Heavyweight Champaign Jim Jeffries' Bar.
Here's another photograph: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=22155

It would take me quite awhile to research each photo, so I've decided to go ahead and just post them.

#2

#3

#4

#5

#6

#7

#8

#9

#10

#11

#12

#13

#14

Please feel free to add any information you might have.

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Godzilla · #**23766** Posted **Sep 22, 2014, 10:46 PM**

A criminal justice visit?

Lincoln Heights Police Station, Undated

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics35/00037305.jpg

Los Angeles City Jail at 419 North Avenue 19, Lincoln Heights.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics35/00037431.jpg .

Undated. Per source, these wooden"cots" were used for immobilizing violent inmates at Lincoln Heights (LA) Jail. Although it would be possible to pin down a prisoner to virtually anything in this cell, these structures do not appear to be purpose built for restraining inmates. More likely they enabled the luckier inmates an opportunity to avoid sitting in or on whatever pooled on the floor.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics35/00037312.jpg

A closer look at jail furniture.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics35/00037292.jpg

Clearly for restraint. Comfort, secondary.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics35/00037293.jpg

Booking room. Reservations and Will Call.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics35/00037331.jpg

Undated, Booking desk, Lincoln Heights Jail

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics35/00037438.jpg

Undated. View from behind the booking desk.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics35/00037336.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics35/00037337.jpg

"Solitary Wing"

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics35/00037285.jpg

Solitary amenities

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics35/00037314.jpg

Undated. Night Court prisoners' waiting room

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics35/00037341.jpg

Four man cells, perfect for forced contract bridge games. Early release for winners?

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics35/00037288.jpg

Room service

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics35/00037440.jpg

State of the art vending machines featuring only the freshest treats and snacks.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics35/00037306.jpg

More straw please?

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics35/00037308.jpg

For larger groups

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics35/00037286.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics35/00037311.jpg

Jailer's office

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics35/00037335.jpg

Cell block locks

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics35/00037321.jpg

A room with a view

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics35/00037298.jpg

ethereal_reality · #**23767** Posted **Sep 22, 2014, 10:51 PM**

Interesting two posts Godzilla.
I remember discussing that one vending machine....it's for fresh apples! (you can see them stacked up inside the machine)
And how did that cell block lock work? Did they simply poke the numbered steel buttons? I've never seen anything like it.

A noirish little place in downtown L.A. (1940s)

ebay

Girls galore...dancing 'til 2 nitely.

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HossC · #**23768** Posted **Sep 22, 2014, 11:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

The seller didn't include dates or any other specific information. (which is why I hesitated to post them when I first found them)

It would take me quite awhile to research each photo, so I've decided to go ahead and just post them. Please feel free to add any information you might have.

#2

#2 East 2nd between Los Angeles and Main looking west. Here's a 1939 view looking east.

USC Digital Library

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#3

#3 The Westminster Hotel at Main and 4th. HDL and USC both have demolition pictures (circa early 1960), but I went for a slightly earlier, albeit undated, shot.

LAPL

mrfredmertz · #**23769** Posted **Sep 22, 2014, 11:14 PM**

"Reservations and Will Call." That is the funniest thing I have read on this site. I almost blew noirish black milk out my nose laughing. Well done.

ethereal_reality · #**23770** Posted **Sep 23, 2014, 12:23 AM**

This is for you mrfredmertz.

http://felixinhollywood.blogspot.com...rly-years.html

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Godzilla · #**23771** Posted **Sep 23, 2014, 12:55 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I'll stay on the aviation topic just a bit longer.

Below is Glendale's Grand Central Airport then and now.

2007 photo by Loren Latker

[Now is no more?]

1923 Glendale Air Rodeo (featuring the Glendale Elks Band)

http://www.airfields-freeman.com/CA/...m_787572c8.jpg

HossC · #**23772** Posted **Sep 23, 2014, 2:01 AM**

More locations of e_r's photographs:

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#4

#4 I'm still looking for this one ...

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#5

#5 Looking west on E 3rd Street. The Miles Printing Co was at 133 E 3rd. The building advertising "ROOMS" on the right is listed in the 1956 CD as the Chiguchi Taiji Hotel. The only extant structure in the picture above is the St George Hotel at 115 E 3rd.

GSV

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#6

#6 Los Angeles Street looking west midway between 1st and 2nd Streets.

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#7

#7 NW corner of 2nd and Main

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#8

#8 I'm still looking for this one ...

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#9

#9 Los Angeles Street looking west up E 4th Street. The Allied Store Fixture Co at 399 S Los Angeles Street is on the right.

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#10

#10 The same intersection with the camera turned to the left. The Belmar Hotel at 140 E 4th is on the corner. R Chapman used fixtures and Miller-Carlson Services Inc are at 401 and 403 S Los Angeles respectively. The large white building on the right is the San Fernando Office Building. To its left is the Edison Electric Company General Office Building at 120 E 4th Street as seen recently in post #23724 by MichaelRyerson. The post also includes a longer shot of this intersection from a block east.

GSV

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#11

#11 I initially didn't recognize the Brighton Hotel at 4th and Hill without its dome. For more images, see post #500 by Beaudry.

memoriastoica on tumblr

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#12

#12 Looking north up Main Street from 3rd. The Union Rescue Mission (see here) is on the left.

GSV

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#13

#13 NE corner of 2nd and Main. The picture below, showing the demolition of the Weil Block, is from post #21465 by me.

Huntington Digital Library

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#14

#14 Looking north on Hill Street from 4th. The F P Fay Building is at 3rd and Hill with the Central Market to its right. The picture below is from 1939. It also shows a little of the Ferguson Building on the left and the Hill Street tunnels in the distance.

Detail of picture in USC Digital Library

Ninja55 · #**23773** Posted **Sep 23, 2014, 2:46 AM**

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SCAN1350 by ZX14r, on Flickr[/IMG]

There was only one Joe Musso. Or was there?????

Ninja55 · #**23774** Posted **Sep 23, 2014, 2:47 AM**

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SCAN1347 by ZX14r, on Flickr[/IMG]

FredH · #**23775** Posted **Sep 23, 2014, 3:37 AM**

A couple weeks ago, ER found this great series of aerial photos from the 1930's. I noticed something interesting in this one that shows Union Station.

http://ctr.trains.com/~/media/Files/...930s%20BEV.pdf

Just north of Union Station is a small housing tract I never noticed before. Does anyone have any information about this area?

http://ctr.trains.com/~/media/Files/...930s%20BEV.pdf

It's all Terminal Annex, parking lots and industrial buildings these days;

Google Maps

FredH · #**23776** Posted **Sep 23, 2014, 4:05 AM**

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This is for you mrfredmertz.

http://felixinhollywood.blogspot.com...rly-years.html

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But Hey! Young Lucy wasn't too bad either.

http://arcdaybyday.tumblr.com/post/1...s-in-every-way

Beaudry · #**23777** Posted **Sep 23, 2014, 4:39 AM**

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#8

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HossC, fantastic identifications! I can add one, this is the Stimson Block, more about this angle here, and here's a shot of it before its '63 demolition --

calstatelib

-- and just to get a sense of where this was, from urbandiachrony

Lorendoc · #**23778** Posted **Sep 23, 2014, 4:57 AM**

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Originally Posted by HossC

More locations of e_r's photographs:

#4 I'm still looking for this one ...

First, congrats to e_r, godzilla, HossC, and FredH and 3940dxer for the high quality posts the past few days.

I was going to attack e_r's slides first, but I realized someone(s) would doubtless beat me to it, which was exactly what happened

I will point out that e_r's picture #4 has what looks like "Maxwell's Cafe" posted as "out of bounds for service personnel." This dates the photo to no earlier than 1942 and no later than 1946.

A poster in the window can be read with some difficulty as advertising the presence of Kim Smilo on the Organ. The internet lists a Herman Kim Smilo (b. 5/14/18 d. 11/7/82) and various ads from the 50s state he was playing organs at various places in LA including the mob-owned Seven Seas Cafe. In an ad Kim put out, he mentioned that he was "sober and dependable," presumably qualities rarely seen in the places like the Maxwell Cafe.

The Out of Bounds (downtown) area was primarily along Main between 3rd and 8th streets. I have a declassified list of these places...somewhere, that i got from a FOIA request to the Army some years ago. I will look for it again, more to follow.

mrfredmertz · #**23779** Posted **Sep 23, 2014, 6:45 AM**

The phrase "Sober and Dependable" often appeared in the 20s, 30s and 40s on ads in casting publications. Sadly, it referred to African Americans performers (ie, they won't embarrass you with their behavior.) I hate that phrase. And all the other ones that come to mind when I hear it. BTW, eBay had a bunch of "Dependable Negro" badges for sale a while ago. Towns in the south would issue these to black men and women who worked for the city, so they could flash them to avoid the perpetual stop and frisks. O(On second thought, the phrase may have been "Trustworth....")

CityBoyDoug · #**23780** Posted **Sep 23, 2014, 8:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by Lorendoc

First, congrats to e_r, godzilla, HossC, and FredH and 3940dxer for the high quality posts the past few days.

Thanks to everyone who was not mentioned in Lorendoc's post above. You're all doing a wonderful job of research, humor and especially noirism.