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Old Posted Jul 13, 2020, 8:34 PM
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On Mon 7/13 @ 6p, we're holding a virtual Joint Committee Meeting to review the plan for Penn Station area redevelopment.


To participate in our Mon meeting, be sure to register in advance:

https://www.cb5.org/cb5m/calendar/20...-environment_1

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I think this site will be home a the first new York city megatall !!
Cause there are a large area .
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I think this site will be home a the first new York city megatall !!
Cause there are a large area .
Oh man that would be so nice to get one, not just for New York but also for the Western Hemisphere's architectural competitiveness. I'm cautiously hopeful that we'll top something out at 2k-ish feet in the next 15 years
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Old Posted Jul 20, 2020, 8:59 PM
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The community board meeting from last week...



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Basically, they think that there should be federal funding for the Penn Station project, so there would be no need for the added density around Penn to pay for it. Nothing more than a brainstorming session to try and find ways or excuses to stop it. This is why I dislike any community board input, advisory though it may be. Just a formal meeting for NIMBYs. At this time, when sources of funding are so scarce for anything, they want to hang their hat on that. One idiot wants to use Covid as an excuse not to build the office towers.
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Empire Station Complex Would Dwarf Hudson Yards


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And we thought Hudson Yards was huge. If the State gets a go-ahead for a proposed “Empire Station Complex” around Penn Station, it will dwarf Hudson Yards. The proposal calls for 14 million square feet of new office space, 800,000 square feet of retail and nearly 1,300 new hotel rooms. The Complex would overrule local zoning and impose no height limits on new buildings.

Empire State Development (ESD) began advancing the proposal yesterday, holding a virtual “scoping session” that drew speakers pro and con. A Community Board 4 member criticized “a Robert Moses like approach” displacing residents and businesses. Many persons said the proposal emphasized density over transit and criticized a lack of information about transit improvements.

Community Board 5 called for federal funding to allow less density and protecting a view corridor to the Empire State Building. Others called for including affordable housing and community services. There was support for saving historic buildings and adapting other buildings in the area. Business groups and unions spoke in support.

Under the plan, which Governor Cuomo announced in January, the State would buy, or take buildings by eminent domain, on eight large sites. ESD describes the area as “substandard and insanitary” with “outdated office buildings” and “bland nondescript retail offerings.”

The area also contains several historic buildings on, or eligible for, the National Register of Historic Places. These include a power station service building on West 30th Street that is the last building remaining from the original Penn Station, a West 31st Street church designed by noted architect Napoleon LeBrun, and the Hotel Pennsylvania.

The stated goal is for the new development to provide funding for improvements at Penn Station and public realm benefits. There are no details yet on how the money would be raised, spent, or administered. Yesterday was the start of a lengthy public review process. We will participate and report on how it progresses.
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Another take on the old JDS proposal...


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Here's the actual public scoping meeting (not the community board) from Monday....


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Some testimony...


https://www.nysenate.gov/newsroom/pr...omplex-project

Testimony on Empire Station Complex Project

BRAD HOYLMAN
July 22, 2020


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On behalf of U.S. Representative Carolyn B. Maloney, U.S. Representative Jerrold Nadler, State Senator Brad Hoylman, State Senator Robert Jackson, Assembly Member Richard N. Gottfried
We appreciate the opportunity to submit comments regarding the Draft Scope of Work for the Empire Station Complex Project.
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Our districts, which cover portions of the neighborhood in and around Penn Station and the proposed expansion, have seen enormous residential and commercial growth over the last two decades. The increase in scale and density on Manhattan’s West Side as a result of rezonings and development has led to a dramatic increase in the number of people who live and work around Penn Station and who rely on this transit hub.

The priority of the draft scope of work needs to be to create a transit hub for the City and surrounding areas that drastically reduces greenhouse gas emission and encourages multimodal use of public transit.

The proposal lacks a commitment to both the commercial and residential tenants that will be displaced as a result of this project, and to meeting the needs for community facilities, public space, or affordable housing.
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ESD must incorporate greatly increased mixed-use affordable housing into the plan, particularly at Sites 1 and 4, but should also consider other sites located in both CD4 and CD5. Relocation of the displaced residents and commercial tenants should be considered in this analysis as well. As increased residential use is incorporated, the scope should include an assessment of how this will change the need for schools, healthcare, C1 commercial, and other neighborhood facilities.

The scope should examine how Madison Square Garden can be incorporated so as not to be an impediment, or moved within the neighborhood so as to support the transportation goals of a modernized Penn Station. We ask that ESD continue to consult MSG in this endeavor.
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As a regional hub that serves commuters from multiple states, the availability and incorporation of federal funding should be examined. Alternatives to the sale of development rights should be examined and the Scope should prove that alternative funding mechanisms are not available. We would like a clear plan for the transfer of air rights, should the air rights not sell, to ensure that the high density burden does not fall on unsuspecting places in our communities. We also request that the plan include an alternative to spread the transfer of development rights outside the immediate area, mitigating the potential for increasing overdevelopment of this area.
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The proposed reduction of 190,000 square feet of community facilities will impact the users of the numerous nonprofits and social services institutions in the area. Organizations that will be displaced include the heavily-used Antonio Olivieri Drop-in Center, the New York Restoration Project, and the Wounded Warrior Project, on Site 2, and Touro College on Site 1. The organizations that provide critical social services in the community, including those for homeless individuals, should be considered an integral part of the Complex and have free or nominal rent in exchange for the services they provide. The displacement of social services, affordable units and small businesses must be studied and temporary locations during construction, on-site replacements and potential additions must be proposed. Other nonprofits should receive assistance in relocating if on-site locations cannot be found, at a nominal or subsidized rent.
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The open space analysis should be conducted for both residential and commercial needs, as the plan will be adding many new populations to the area from the high density commercial buildings, shoppers and new retail, commuters, and new residents from the surrounding community. The open space proposed at Site 2 is insufficient to meet this future growth. It is important that tree planting and opportunities to “green” the open space be studied, as this creates another opportunity to improve air quality as well as the pedestrian experience of the areas.
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Vornado has been very patient, (some would say too slow), in waiting to redevelope the area. With 1 and 2 Penn moving forward, and Farley nearing completion, the stage is set for the other pieces to come together.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-office-market

Facebook’s Big Lease Shows Confidence in Manhattan Office Market

By Natalie Wong
August 4, 2020


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The future for Manhattan offices is looking up.

Big New York landlords have insisted that demand for offices would rebound after the pandemic, which curtailed deals and shuttered towers for months, sending everyone to work from home. Now, Facebook Inc.’s new lease at Vornado Realty Trust’s Farley Building, a former post office near Pennsylvania Station, is adding credence to that thesis.
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Facebook is taking over the whole office portion of the property, a commitment that Vornado Chief Executive Officer Steven Roth called “a dramatic statement” by one of the world’s premiere tech companies.

“This deal reinforces New York City as a great, unique place to do business,” Roth said on a conference call with analysts. “With an unlimited highly educated workforce, New York continues to be the place to be.”
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Facebook’s latest lease ends Vornado’s years-long search for a tenant for the Farley Building, part of a $2 billion plan to modernize what the real estate investment trust calls the Penn District.

The deal is “proof that businesses intend to return to the office,” and provides a boost to Vornado’s broader redevelopment plan, Piper Sandler Cos. analyst Alexander Goldfarb wrote in a note to clients.
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