Posted Jan 20, 2019, 1:44 AM
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Originally Posted by NYC2ATX
I don't hate it...the facade looks interesting. Honestly though, I just don't get why these designs have to be so rigidly beholden to a basic rectangular profile.
Best evolution with this development is the dropping of that "St. Steven's" name. Dunno where that was supposed to be derived from.  |
Boxy and rectangular is the nature of city zoning and the grid. But this tower in particular is the work of trying to get a usable footprint over an irregular development site. That's where the cantilever comes in, and I don't think there were a million options with that. Even though they're going through ULURP, they tried to design a tower with as little disruption as possible. I still say we should have gotten a crown or spire out of it, but that doesn't look like it was in the cards. There's an amusement park of sorts at the top.
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Originally Posted by cozy
Design is meh, 1500 and one is a total cop out. Not impressed. But not disappointed.
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It would be interesting if Barnett responded to that one foot with a couple of feet of his own added to CPT. He should just go back to that spire anyway.
I'm excited to see this move through ULURP, and peel back the layers of what is being proposed. So far what we've learned from the articles (all subject to change)...
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https://www.crainsnewyork.com/real-e...-citys-tallest
- The highest floors will feature a multilevel observatory. According to several people who have seen Macklowe's proposal, he has envisioned a clear, plastic or glass-enclosed slide that would protrude from the building's exterior, giving riders the vertiginous sensation of soaring high above the city.
- The building's mass-damper—a large, water-filled mechanism to reduce sway in supertall towers—would be on display with an accompanying seismograph that charts the energy of the movement it muffles.
- Macklowe has been telling stakeholders that project would cantilever over the landmarked John Pierce residence on East 51st Street, include an observation deck near the top and feature a public space near the base, though his plans could change as the process moves forward.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/18/n...raper-nyc.html
- If approved at 1,551 feet tall, his skyscraper, known as Tower Fifth, would rank as the second-tallest building not only in New York, but in the Western Hemisphere.
- Tower Fifth would hover 216 feet above the roofline of One World Trade Center — which would remain the city’s tallest building because a mast brings its official height to 1,776 feet — and reach a scant 12 inches above Central Park Tower, the skyscraper nearing completion on Billionaires’ Row.
- The proposed building will require billions of dollars to build and includes an expensive and energy-efficient facade rarely seen in the United States, a public concourse, plush tenant amenities — a lap pool, yoga room and multilevel running track — and the city’s tallest observatory, where visitors would be able to dive down a transparent, 60-foot corkscrew slide.
- An 85-foot-high glass lobby would stretch from 52nd Street to 51st Street, where the entrance would dramatically frame the side-street doors to St. Patrick’s. Escalators would lead to the lower levels, restaurants, shops and elevators for the observatory.
- A glass-walled public auditorium would sit above the lobby and look onto the top of St. Patrick’s.
- The office tower itself, however, would step back from St. Patrick’s, rising on 52nd Street atop two stems or stilts, near 400 feet above the sidewalks. The 96-story tower is designed as a sleek shaft until it reaches the top, where a two-level slab juts out from the northern and southern sides of the building, before the tower resumes its ascent.
- The proposed building would cantilever about 100 feet over the Look Building and 300 feet above an adjoining landmark, the John Peirce house, which will almost certainly spark criticism from preservationists.
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We'll see what kind of feedback Macklowe gets back from planning regarding the overall design. They can request some modifications.
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In the hope of gaining city approval, Mr. Macklowe and his team — Dan Shannon of Moed de Armas & Shannon Architects and Gensler, a second architecture firm — shoehorned their tower onto the site in an attempt to mitigate its impact on the surroundings. They have also held preliminary meetings with the city’s Planning Department, the Landmarks Preservation Commission and with members of the local community board with the hope of quelling potential opposition.
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