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Lansing is a suburb of Ithaca near the airport with a few malls and a bunch of apartment complexes.

From the Lansing Star - online


Kinney Store Approved for Triphammer Mall
by Dan Veaner
Friday, 03 July 2009



Architect Thomas M. Schickel

The way was paved to build a Kinneys Drug Store at the Triphammer Mall Tuesday, when the Village of Lansing Planning Board approved a special permit and environmental review. Kinneys will be the first store as you enter the complex, where the former Home Works furniture store was located.

Most of the discussion revolved around changes to the Triphammer Road entrance to the mall. A traffic island will route shoppers to the main parking area. "The reconfiguration of the driveway will be an improvement over the existing conditions," said Village Engineer Brent Cross.




An area between Triphammer Road and Substation Alley will be made one way to accommodate a drive-through prescription pickup window. That will prevent traffic from the small access road, forcing shoppers to drive into the mall parking lot via the Triphammer Road entrance. Cross says vehicles making a left turn onto Sheridan Drive may be delayed, concluding that would be caused by the new configuration to the entrance to the mall rather than additional traffic to the drug store.

The timing of the meeting required a majority plus one to override a concern by the County planning department that increased traffic could negatively impact the area. The County recommended a traffic study, something the Village Planning Board had already requested and received. Based on the study, Cross said that the level of service would not be negatively impacted.





Architect Thomas M. Schickel presented plans for the store and answered questions about details of the plan. he covered questions about the specifics of ten new parking spaces and traffic flow in the one way alley that will include the drive through window. The new entrance to the mall will have four lanes: left and right turn lanes exiting the mall, a lane entering the main parking area, and thee fourth leading to the drive through window.

The Planning Board passed a negative declaration on the State Environmental Quality Review (SEQR), meaning the project will cause no negative or controversial environmental impact. Next they unanimously approved the special permit. Lighting, landscaping, and sign plans have yet to be approved. Officials say the approval clears the way for construction to begin, and estimate the store will be completed around October.




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From my last week's (very limited ) travel experience, I can say that the Finger Lakes area look very scenic. Too bad I only went up as far as Danby.
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^ There are quite a few beautiful sights to be seen in the Finger Lakes. Glad you enjoyed your brief visit. Too bad you couldn't have gone about 5 miles past Danby, you would have seen this:



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I have a bad feeling about the outcome of this one.

From the Ithaca Journal



Public meeting to discuss the proposed Hotel Ithaca
July 6, 2009

City of Ithaca will hold a public meeting to discuss the proposed Hotel Ithaca and the related Community Investment Incentive Program (CIIP) application for the project on Wednesday, July 15.

The Hotel Ithaca is a proposed 27 million dollar project, which includes a 10-story, 130-room, full-service four star boutique hotel and restaurant, to be constructed at the northwest quadrant of the intersection of East State and South Aurora streets.

In 2006, the City of Ithaca Common Council voted to establish the CIIP, under which projects would be reviewed by the community and evaluated by the Common Council. Under this program, projects are evaluated under a predetermined set of community contributions. If they are found to meet the minimum qualification of contributing at least 14 of the listed community benefits, the Common Council will endorse the project for consideration of tax abatements by the Tompkins County Industrial Development Agency (IDA).

The meeting will be held at 7 p.m. on the third floor of City Hall, in the Common Council Chambers. The developer will make a presentation to the public describing the project and explaining the benefits that they intend to provide to the community. Public comment will be allowed and made part of the record for Common Council consideration
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Oh, here we go. Let's forget the tax income and the jobs. Every Annie Activist is going to be in force with their own agenda to impose on a private development.

Like really, some of the comments I read in those Collegetown and downtown surveys scare me. One said "please tear down all these horrid buildings". On the IJ, one poster claimed that construction in Collegetown caused it to lose all its charm, and that they wanted to close their eyes every time they went down Green Street. Obviously, the street was better when it was all parking lots and one-story-buildings built in the urban renewal area.

Recall that against all common sense (even the Ithaca Times said that nay votes would be foolish), one councilmember (Maria Coles) voted against selling land to the developer because it wasn't planning to pay all of its employees living wages ($12.11/hr, vs. 7.15-8.00 typical starting wage).
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The old hometown is starting to piss me off. Well, at least some of the folks are.
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Interesting idea. I have a feeling I won't see this functioning in my lifetime, but perhaps in the not too distant future. Article from the Ithaca Times on-line.



An artist’s rendering of what one style of podcar would look like on a track. (Image Provided



Connecting Ithaca

Taryn Thompson
Reporter

Unless we solve the problem of transportation, then nothing else really falls into place. You can pursue sustainable farming practices, you can dump money into alternative energy research, and you can set up organizations that support low-income families. But the biggest issue? It's public transit.

This is what Connect Ithaca decided upon when the group first met: a handful of folks - regular old taxpayers - wary of the ways in which city living has contributed to environmental degradation. They came together as concerned citizens and talked about climate mitigation, oil independence, energy efficiency, food security - even land and wildlife preservation.

But the discussion started to focus on urban planning and transportation infrastructure, and so was born Connect Ithaca.

This collaborative company is committed to reclaiming the magic of the pedestrian street as central to the life of cities, and restoring the urban quality of life that has been jeopardized by the continual intrusion of cars into urban neighborhoods.

"This is about ecological cities that are in balance with nature," said Joan Bokaer, one of the leading founders of CI. "The problem is that the car, no matter how efficient, requires the same infrastructure. Unless we address the infrastructure, we'll keep going on the path we're on. The real problem isn't the cars, it's the infrastructure."

Bokaer said that every year, cars kill 1.2 million people and injure 50 million. She noted the amount of space required for roads and highways and intersections, a reality that begins to define a countryside and the view from kitchen windows. And it keeps growing.

"The better cars get, the more people will have cars, the more congested cities will be, and the more frantic our streets will be," she said. "Cars have a major impact on the quality of our cities."

And so, CI teamed up with C&S Engineers, based in Syracuse, to look into options that would help begin to wean the system away from cars. C&S specializes in infrastructure planning, design, construction, and inspection, and is heavily oriented in transportation and rail.

The team received a grant from the New York State Energy Research and Development Agency to study sustainable transport and the feasibility of implementing a system that would reduce miles vehicles traveled. The system: personal rapid transit.

"The feasibility study will look into transportation patterns, travel behavior, existing traffic conditions, and the likelihood of people to use personal rapid transit," said Paul Wilke, the principal investigator for the study and the manager of transportation at C&S.

The PRT uses small, lightweight, driverless vehicles to carry individuals or small groups non-stop from the origin station to the destination station. These vehicles - known as pod cars - are tracked by a network of lightweight guideways.

The birth of the PRT concept can be traced back to the 1950s, when research was first conducted into alternative public transportation methods - a new, innovative transport system using advanced automation to address the needs of urban transportation.

The system is comparable to public rail transportation since it's on a fixed route and functions like a horizontal elevator. PRT is different, however, because vehicles are personal and will travel individually selected routes, depending on what the rider needs. Stations are located off-line on a sidetrack, waiting for passengers to come aboard without blocking the traffic flow on the main track.

To top it off, the electric system operates on demand, using energy only upon transportation requests. How is an electric pod different from an electric car? It has to do with weight, speed and non-stop operation.

"The pod has no transmission, no engine, and you don't need safety cages," said Robert Morache, a local architect and the brains behind the conceptual design of the system.

"Since the pod is on a track and elevated, it's never going to collide with an SUV, a bus, a tree, or a truck," Morache said. "Because it's on this safe network, the only thing it could do is bump another pod. So there's a weight reduction that comes with eliminating that safety cage equipment."

The electricity used in an automobile, therefore, is dragging the battery, the motor, and the transmission - not to mention the solid metal frame in which it all sits. In addition, electric cars have very heavy batteries, Morache said.

"The car, even though it's the same size as a pod, might weigh twice as much, which means it will use twice as much energy to get it moving," he said.

The pod is also going from point A to point B directly, without stopping, while the electric car is going from A to B "stopping 25 times at lights intersections, stop signs, decelerating and accelerating, always loosing energy."

Since the PRT system is a dynamic electric network, that energy is shared amongst pods. As one pod is heading down the hill and generating power, the electricity can be transferred to another pod heading up the hill, and any excess is maintained within the system for future use.

Getting motivated

Connect Ithaca's motivation behind a renaissance of the mobility paradigm extends far beyond the practical mechanics and operational integrity of PRT. For one, members of the group are of the opinion that the money spent on the car industry is out of proportion to the needs it serves.

"It's a social justice issue," Bokaer said. "Our nation's poorest spend 40 percent of each paycheck on transportation. It has a disproportionately difficult effect on the poor: they're forced to get cars, to use this infrastructure because public transportation is so inadequate. In order to get the jobs they need to get the car."

Bokaer mentioned a recent statistic from AAA stating that on average, Americans spend $8,000 to $10,000 a year on the maintenance of their cars.

"And the poorest families have older cars, which break down more and use more gas," she said.

Secondly, CI advocates fighting against sprawl and big-box development.

"The big box development that happened in Ithaca's Southwest Park is an entirely car-based system that came at the tail end of 20th century," Morache said. "It used to be that the shopping mall would get a couple of anchors, then get a bunch of small stores in between and put them in an enclosed environment."

These days, it's the out-door mall-type layout of individual stores in the same plaza, attracting traffic to fill up the parking lots that are often as expansive as the stores themselves.

"The reason businesses locate out there is because they get the free parking," Morache said. "But whenever you improve transit, no matter what it is, you eliminate car use and bring the whole city closer together so that you can get more stuff within walking distance."

Businesses need people - not necessarily parking - and if the PRT can bring 75 customers to a business all at one time, it's a mutually beneficial environment, Morache argued.

It's the idea of access by proximity: instead providing parking that allows customers to drive from here to there, the PRT would bring origin and destination closer together by eliminating parking.

"So, you don't even need to drive," Morache said. "You can walk because they're just across street from each other and not down the block. Until you achieve a critical mass of transit, you're never going to achieve access by proximity."

Current automobile infrastructure feeds the system that nourishes sprawl, building roads to support development outside of cities, which is apparent on the edge of almost all U.S. cities, Bokaer added.

"This means we're loosing our most precious farmland," she said, quoting a report from the Yale School Forestry that claimed the best agricultural climate exists underneath our highways.

"That's usually the best farmland," Bokaer said. "The farmland around cities usually has the best soil because it's usually around water."

However, 50 percent of most American cities are devoted to the automobile, she said.

"It's hard to fathom how much space the automobile requires," she added. "It's a huge amount when you consider how much farm-ready soil is covered by asphalt. Instead of using that space for urban agriculture and growing food on the shrinking amount of arable farmland, they're using it for cars. It's the absurdity of the whole mindset."

As such, Connect Ithaca wants an upheaval of the status quo and a u-turn - or maybe k-turn depending on the progress of the study - of mentality: changing the way people think about transportation and mobility.

Getting started

Since the very beginning, CI honed in on transportation and transit-oriented development as the nexus of many societal problems.

"We began to look at things as not simply as transportation, but as sustainable mobility," said Jake Roberts, who researched the history behind and development of transit in the Ithaca area as part of the team's conditions to receive the NYSERDA funding.

"It's a change in wording," he said. "Transportation doesn't have to be by plane, car, or bus. It can be any number of things," like walking, hiking, biking - even rollerblading.

"My intention is always to advocate for reduction in vehicle usage, not stopping it altogether, in order to create greater economic sustainability within a city," said Frost Travis, a local real estate developer and member of CI. "We need to be more efficient."

Roberts, in studying the way Ithaca could handle a PRT system, attended a conference in Upsula, Sweden, where he said his flight took him right to the train station, which brought him directly to the bus stop, where buses were waiting patiently.

"Upsula covers the physical land mass of Town of Ithaca plus the City of Ithaca, but it has 200,000 residents," Roberts said. "There are dedicated routes for bikes, the canals are still up and running, transporting goods and people."

Everything is green, he added.

"There was a lot of housing built around courtyards and shared space; people were healthy and happy," Roberts said. "What are we doing wrong in America?"

The priorities in Sweden centered on the pedestrian, and then shifted to bikes and public transportation. Cars were the last priority.

"Ours are opposite: the car comes first and people second," Travis said. "We've chosen to focus on sustainable mobility because if we don't have something to orient our efforts around, we'd be too diffuse. This is a great organizing principle."

Connect Ithaca looked at reprioritizing these values because of the desire, they said, for a different urban character.

"A lot of people think that the car is inevitable, but the reality is that the car is a choice," Morache said. "I don't think people believe they can have that here."

"The car is not inevitable," Bokaer added. "We have some beautiful examples, like one of the most popular cities in the world: Venice, Italy. It's a popular tourist destination with no cars."

Having the organic, interconnectedness of a European city, she said, isn't impossible in a place like Ithaca, but it requires the relinquishment of cars.

"Portland, Oregon, is one of the greenest cities in the country," Bokaer noted. "It's the number one biking city with a double-track, light rail system that occupies 50 times less space than the automobile. Pod cars are even a fraction of that."

One of the reasons, in fact, that CI came together so effectively was that "we had this window of opportunity when the county announced they wanted to support nodal development," Travis said.

Testing the potential viability of a PRT system in a city like Ithaca makes logical sense from several different angles.

"One of the nice things about where Ithaca is regarding it's progressive nature is that the city, town, county, Cornell University and Ithaca College are all at some state of their comprehensive master planning," Roberts said, "figuring out what their objectives are, what the best pathway is. It's impressive that they are all doing this."

These entities, however, are not vocally planning together, which is unfortunate, Roberts said.

"But to be able to inject this conversation so that public mass transit has a chance is great," he said. "The scale of Ithaca as a mid-sized city is also good. Other big cities already have public transportation systems. Then there are second-tier and third-tier cities that are auto-dependent and don't necessarily have the ability to bring in a mass transit system."

CI suggests that the configuration like what's home to Ithaca, then, is a highly appropriate Petri dish for the manifestation of a beta pod car set-up.

"The electrical system infrastructure eliminates the greenhouse gas emissions and energy used by conventional transportation," Travis said.

The theory behind an eco-city, Travis added, provides a compelling argument for mitigating the impact of the automobile on a smaller city and weaning off the culture behind the auto-city.

Getting tested

In favor of avoiding jumping the gun, CI simply wants to bring a test track to Ithaca.

"On one hand, it's important that American engineers and transit planners and academics can kick their tires here and test it, but it's important for everyday folk to see how it functions," Roberts said. "It's not that futuristic - it's just advanced railroad.

CI plans to continue engaging the community ahead of time so that people get a full understanding is important, Morache added.

"We want to create win-win situations," he said. "We have to study the impact on TCAT and on taxi services and make sure TCAT stays solvent so that the two compliment each other. We have the opportunity to make everything work better together as a multi-modal transportation system."

The team plans to educate the public on all relevant factors, including how a PRT system would fit into the community and what the challenges are, including the legalities of implementing such a thing into an already established city.

"We need pub input and participation to make sure that as we move forward, everybody has a seat at the table," Roberts said.

Any community that looks into a PRT system has to ask these questions, Morache said. Ithaca's experience with this will offer some knowledge and future expertise advice for other cities.

"This is a labor of love and exploration, trying to find new strategies," he added.

Members of CI actually see this as an economic strategy for the entire region of central and Upstate New York, formerly an influential manufacturing base known for it's history of innovation.

"There has been so much talk about turning a corner regarding the economic downturn and re-identifying upstate New York as the Silicon Valley of green enterprise," Roberts said. "If we can test a pod car or PRT manufacturing base here, it would go a long way to attract other green enterprises."

CI knows, however, that the car is far too practical and comfortable being a trusted staple in many lives.

"There is an enormous culture built around the car," Travis said. "It's here to stay. We just want to provide a viable alternative."

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I'm keeping my fingers crossed for the hotel project. Gotta love some of the comments from readers(at the botom). From the Ithaca Journal.


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Tax breaks for hotel recommended
Committee returns Collegetown plan back to council
By Krisy Gashler • kgashler@gannett.com • Staff Writer • July 17, 2009

Common Council's planning committee voted to recommend tax abatements for the proposed Hotel Ithaca on the Commons and to adopt, rather than just endorse, the Collegetown Urban Plan.

Developer Jeffrey Rimland's Hotel Ithaca deserves tax breaks because it will provide 26 defined community benefits, the committee decided by a 4-1 vote late Wednesday night.

Under the city's Community Investment Incentive Program, a developer must meet a minimum of 14 benefits in order for the council to recommend they receive tax breaks. The Tompkins County Industrial Development Agency is the board that actually decides whether to grant tax abatements.

Chairwoman Jennifer Dotson, I-1st, voted against, saying she had concerns about some of the items on the city's list of community benefits. For example, one defined benefit is that the "project has accommodations for bicycles." Dotson argued that's required by city code and shouldn't be considered a benefit.

Alderman Eric Rosario, I-2nd, responded that the developer can only work with the structure the city provides.

New jobs and increased sales tax revenue are among other benefits the hotel would provide, according to the committee's resolution. It would also prevent sprawl, generate pedestrian traffic, promote public transit use and use an underutilized space. The hotel is planned for the southeastern edge of the Commons, between Aurora and Green Streets, on a site that's currently a surface parking lot.

Collegetown plan stalls
On the much-debated Collegetown plan, committee members voted down a proposal that would have endorsed rather than fully adopted the plan.

By a 3-2 vote, the committee decided to send back to Common Council the same plan that was unexpectedly pulled from the council's July agenda. Alderpersons Dan Cogan, D-5th, and Mary Tomlan, D-3rd, voted to endorse rather than adopt.

Planning Director JoAnn Cornish urged the council to adopt the plan and move forward.

"We've spent two years, an incredible amount of community volunteer time, an incredible amount of staff time," Cornish said. "This was a council-led initiative. It was brought forward by a council member, the moratorium was brought forward by a council member . . . and now to see it in such jeopardy of not moving forward is really disheartening and something I feel would be a grave disappointment and mistake for the city."

Tomlan, who spearheaded the Collegetown moratorium and $180,000 consultant contract, argued there has not been enough study of things like economics and transportation to adopt the plan.

"We've had lots of public meetings, we've had lots of public input, lots of conversations, but I think I would prefer to start with the studies first," Tomlan said. "I don't feel comfortable with coming up with the policy and the conclusions before those studies are done."

Common Council is scheduled to vote on both issues at their next meeting, August 5 at 7 p.m. in City Hall, 108 E. Green St.




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itch-aca wrote:
I agree with centralNYer. This building is WAY out of place for the commons. Hope they incorporate greasy pedestrian benches, cigarette butts, gum stains, drug dealers and lazy welfare recipients into the design to help "blend" into the commons "feel" and look.
7/17/2009 10:46:59 AM

Brutus_R_Yates wrote:
How about to be fair, the City exempts from taxes ALL building and remodeling projects. After all, what is good for campaign contributers is good for the ganders.
7/17/2009 9:59:21 AM


chart25 wrote:
its a nice looking hotel and would be great for ithaca if it can work. i don't see the need for so many hotels in downtown ithaca as there is nothing to do in downtown ithaca except go on the commons and buy some drugs. if the hotel can work it will be more money for the city when it is built. how much of the labor and materials will come from tompkins county is the only question i didn't hear asked. this would help with tax abatements
7/17/2009 8:51:13 AM


Raptor119 wrote:
I thought this project was sold to the community as one that would stand on its own without tax abatements? Even used that excuse as a reason they couldn't guarentee the "living wage" debate.

Now I see the CC proposing tax abatements.

Looks to me like someone on the CC got an envelope full of unmarked bills.

This CC is proving once again that they can not be trusted; when they speak it's not the truth; and they should all be tossed out of office at their next election oppurtunity.

Business as usual in this God-forsaken deadbeat town.
7/17/2009 8:33:12 AM


ITowner wrote:
Sounds like JoAnne nailed it. That is city policy isn't? Wear the developer down, try to spend there money on Studies,drawing,etc. and if that don't work ,see if we can talk for 2 years at the meetings accomplish nothing. Then of course, shut the million dollar project down because of a BIKE RACK.........What nonsense.
7/17/2009 6:29:34 AM
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I can't understand why there is still objection to growth. Especially when most of upstate NY would be thrilled with new development. From the Ithaca Times:



Study finds 4,000 housing units needed over next 10 years

Taryn Thompson
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According to Ed Marx, the commissioner of planning and public works for Tompkins County, officials have identified in the County Housing Needs Assessment the need for an additional 4,000 housing units in the county over the course of the next 10 years.

"Those units should be in places proximity to where people work, ideally, so that long commutes to and from work are not required," Marx said. "It also just alleviates the pressure on our infrastructure. That's what we're aiming for."

The county comprehensive plan pinpoints existing settled areas in the county and areas where the infrastructure is suitable to accommodate development as target spots for additional units. Marx said county officials see the City of Ithaca and surrounding urbanized areas, such as the Villages of Lansing and Cayuga Heights, as appropriate areas of additional development. Other villages, like Trumansburg, Dryden, and Groton, are suitable places as well.

"They have the infrastructure and some public services available locally, and are fairly well served by public transit provided by TCAT," Marx said. "Out side of those areas, there are the traditional hamlets where we believe infrastructure is much more limited and in many cases the potential to accept development is limited. When you take all those existing settlements, there are many options."

The Tompkins County Planning and Public Works Department has completed two corridor studies: the Route 13 Corridor Study and the Route 96 Corridor Study. These are locations where there are established places for employment and major employers, such as the hospital and the area around the NYSEG facility.

The latter is "where there's some industrial development and the potential for such, and it's part of our county empire zone," Marx said. "Those are the only two areas we have identified outside of the existing settled areas" as appropriate for more housing.

"Our main goal is to not be in conflict with our agriculture and forest lands," Marx added. "Protecting the natural areas is the desire of many people."

Recent concerns have risen from residents in the West Hill area, but Marx said that very little of the projected development would happen on West Hill compared to other areas in the county.

"I think the discussion needs to take place for people to get a common understanding of planning and how it fits into the context of the whole county," he said.

For the most part, county traffic consultants found the capacity on Route 96 - other than a few bottleneck times in city limits - to be in reasonably good shape and able to handle the projected traffic with some minor modifications, according to Marx. There is a recommendation in the consultant's report that the way to alleviate the bottleneck congestion where Routes 96 and 89 intersect would be a bridge across the channel, but that has yet to be decided.

"On Route 13, the traffic is much heavier, and there are a whole number of recommendations in terms of how to maintain the function of the road to handle the traffic and manage development so that the road can continue to function properly over time," Marx said. "The traffic is unfortunately projected to increase in both corridors, but under the nodal development pattern, traffic would increase significantly less than the alternative of not having any planned pattern."

Marx added that the county planning advisory board is focusing some attention on the need to create a better understanding amongst municipalities of what the alternatives are and what the implications of the alternatives are for future development.

"We've already had ongoing discussions with local municipality planners, and will be continuing discussions in the community," he said.
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Interesting OPED piece from te Ithaca Times online:



7/15/2009 10:50:00 AM


A Melting Pot Of Merchants
The diversity of their backgrounds reflects the diversity of the city they live in. Their roots are scattered across the globe, and reads like a high school geography exam... Austria, Ethiopia, Pakistan, Ghana, Syria, the Ivory Coast, and Afghanistan, to name a few. And, while their backgrounds and the city they call home are diverse, they share a common bond. They're all merchants in downtown Ithaca and their businesses make up many of the one-of-a-kind galleries, shops and eateries that have made the Ithaca Commons a destination for people from around the world.

16 percent of the City of Ithaca's population was born outside of the U.S., according to U.S. Census Bureau statistics. 26 percent of the city's population is non-white, and in a state where females own 29 percent of the businesses, the Census Bureau reports the figure is 38 percent in the City of Ithaca.

In downtown Ithaca alone, better than 20 percent of the 150 businesses in the Business Improvement District are owned or co-owned by people who immigrated to the United States.

But, if you talk to these business owners, they'll tell you the only way they see themselves is as entrepreneurs who believe that downtown Ithaca's big-city cosmopolitan feel in a small town makes it the best place for them to achieve success and their goals.

Alta Spa owner Awura-Abena grew up in the African nation of Ghana. She says she falls back on the African tradition of focusing on small talk and sharing pleasantries with clients, and it goes a long way toward turning them into repeat customers.

Awura-Abena, who was living in Canada before coming to Ithaca with her family, says small talk and pleasantries are why Alta Spa's customers continue to come back, despite the economic slowdown. She believes people will always budget for services such as a visit to the spa, when they're treated well and shown appreciation in a pleasant environment. Awura-Abena is also convinced that downtown Ithaca is a much better location for the type of environment Alta Spa wants to create, than Route 13 or the Pyramid Mall. She points to its concentration of other businesses in a relatively small area, its multinational flavor, tourism appeal, and central location to Cornell University, Ithaca College, and the surrounding communities.

At the other end of the Ithaca Commons is Ithacuts. Owner Akoko Semon was born and grew up in Africa's Ivory Coast. She and her husband came to Ithaca so he could attend Cornell, and Akoko herself later took some courses to further her education. The couple eventually decided they liked the small but cosmopolitan feel of downtown Ithaca and wanted to stay.

When the opportunity to purchase Ithacuts arose, Akoko jumped at the chance to take over an established business with a clientele reflecting both the downtown and City of Ithaca populations as a whole. People from all backgrounds come through the door at Ithacuts and Akoko says she sees it as a reflection of downtown's diversity.

Downtown Ithaca's pedestrian-friendly environment also appeals to Akoko, who says Ithacuts benefits from the foot traffic it creates, because pedestrians are more likely to stop and come in than those who are driving by. Downtown's compact size is also a benefit, because it means people who live in the neighborhoods around downtown can walk to Ithacuts fairly quickly. Downtown's pedestrian-friendly nature also turns tourists and visitors who are walking by into Ithacuts customers.

Emma Lou Sheikh, who is a co-owner of House of Shalimar, T-Shirt Express, and Ithacards, joins Akoko Semon and Awura-Abena as one of downtown's women business owners. Emma Lou is from New Jersey. Her husband and business partner Abdul Razak Sheikh came to the U.S. from Pakistan in 1960. He says that as a child watching American movies in Pakistan, the U.S. was portrayed as the land of endless opportunities.

The Sheikhs opened the original House of Shalimar in 1970 in New York City. Two years later, the first local House of Shalimar opened in Collegetown. The couple then expanded into downtown Ithaca. Today, summer is the busiest season for the House of Shalimar. T-Shirt Express is known around the world for its selection of Ithaca is Gorges tees, and Ithacards fills a niche in downtown that hasn't been served for several years.

Abdul Sheikh's dreams of the land of opportunity have in many ways, come true for him. He and Emma Lou own three businesses. He lives in an area he describes as a "paradise," when referring to its scenic beauty. He also notes the area is not overly populated and very safe to live in.

Ithaca's natural beauty also caught the eye of Austrian-born Michael Horsing, who owns Brotchen. Horsing visited Ithaca in 1992 and was immediately reminded of the village he grew up in. Horsing apprenticed as a pastry chef for his grandfather, who owned a bakery Horsing describes as very similar to Brotchen in both look and atmosphere. He also apprenticed in Italy with Alfredo Di Roma, who is often associated with Fettuccini Alfredo, and the two later went to Orlando, Florida where they opened and operated the Italian food court at Epcot Center.

Horsing says he waited five years for Brotchen's Ithaca Commons location to become available, because it would allow him to create an environment and ambience that reflects "old Europe." He says Brotchen would not be the same in the strip mall environment of Route 13 or cookie-cutter approach at the Pyramid Mall. Austrians take pride in a good cup of coffee and

Brotchen has a master barista on staff. Brotchen's small size, its selection of palate-tempting treats and burgeoning art gallery featuring local artists all create a coziness that are staples of the pastry and coffee shops he remembers as a child.

Unique World co-owner Yehuala Terefe immigrated to the United States from Ethiopia... a country she describes as very spiritual and with a culture that values being friendly to others and treating them with respect. She and her partner Alan Cameron chose Ithaca and downtown in particular, primarily for the clientele and type of shoppers that downtown appeals to... those with a taste for the eclectic and a desire to follow their own path. They both felt that the big box, mainstream, mass merchandise approach to retailing that's found on Ithaca's Route 13 corridor, or at the Pyramid Mall in Lansing, was not what they wanted or were looking for.

Terefe and Cameron both envisioned a business that combined fashion and artwork. The couple was living in Scranton, Pennsylvania, but Cameron was familiar with Ithaca. Terefe says she knew after her first visit that downtown Ithaca would be the perfect location for their business concept. The two commuted from Scranton every day for the first six months Unique World was open.

For many people, such as Horsing and Sheikh, Ithaca's gorges, waterfalls, and Cayuga

Lake were reasons to visit and eventually stay here. For Awura-Abena, whose spouse's job brought her family to Ithaca, it created an opportunity to own and operate the type of business she'd always wanted to open. For Akoko Semon, it was her desire to do better and get ahead. And, Ithaca's big-city cosmopolitan feel in a small town can always be a factor in someone's decision to make Ithaca their home. It was for Terefe and Cameron.

It's been said that Academia meets Appalachia in Ithaca like no place else on earth. It should come as no surprise then, that a city that attracts scholars and visitors from around the world would also attract business owners from the four corners of the planet as well.
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Great news for downtown Ithaca (from the Ithaca Journal):



New pharmacy coming to downtown Ithaca
Store would be locally owned, fill need, city officials maintain
By Krisy Gashler • kgashler@gannett.com • Staff Writer • July 24, 2009

ITHACA - City planners think Darren Palmer has the cure for what ails them.

Eight years after CVS Pharmacy opened its drive-through-focused chain on Route 13 and promptly abandoned its Commons location, locally owned Palmer Pharmacy has announced it will open in downtown this fall.

Meanwhile, the owners of Madeline's on The Commons plan to open a second restaurant at the spot currently occupied by the Lost Dog on Cayuga Street. And some of the Lost Dog's owners and employees plan to move up Cayuga Street to start a microbrewery.

Palmer's 3,500-square-foot full-service pharmacy will sit on Green Street, between the new Urban Outfitters and the soon-to-be Gimme! Coffee, and it will include an old-fashioned ice cream parlor and soda fountain.

Palmer's family started in the pharmacy business with the South Seneca Pharmacy in Ovid 20 years ago, he said. Five years ago, the younger Palmer opened the first Palmer Pharmacy in Trumansburg, and two years later, he bought the Ovid pharmacy from his dad and uncle.

Shortly thereafter, officials from the City of Ithaca and the Downtown Ithaca Alliance came knocking.

"I was 30 years old," Palmer said. "I had that one pharmacy for three years, I'm buying another one, and then Mack Travis is showing up at my door saying, 'Hey, why don't you build another one down in Ithaca?' I'm like, 'OK, I have a hole in my stomach the size of a golf ball here."

Travis, a well-known Ithaca developer and member of the Ithaca Downtown Alliance board, Gary Ferguson, alliance executive director, and Phyllisa DeSarno, deputy director for economic development in the city, pursued and wooed Palmer, he said.

They provided market and demographic research, showing that downtown needs, and will support, a pharmacy, Ferguson said. The CVS on the Commons didn't close because of lack of business, DeSarno said. A corporate decision to focus on locations with drive-throughs and parking led to its closure, she said.

"The core of downtown was sorely missing a pharmacy, so we're thrilled that Palmer is going to open," DeSarno said.

Palmer said he hopes to open by Oct. 1.

Teresa and Scott Miller, who own Madeline's on The Commons, have announced plans to open Wildfire-An American Bistro at 106 S. Cayuga St. by September. The spot is currently occupied by the Lost Dog.

Some of the Lost Dog's owners plan to focus their energy on the Binghamton Lost Dog, and others plan to move up Cayuga Street and create a brew pub, Bandwagon Microbrewery, DeSarno said. Bandwagon Microbrewery hasn't yet announced an opening date.
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Well, it's something to dream about (from the Ithaca Journal):


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Trumansburg graduate Mike Kehoe, a Hollywood writer, producer and director, left, listens to Tompkins Cortland Community College student Cory Grogan of Richfield Springsdescribe how the desk is set up for the production of the school's news program. (Buy this photo)






Filmmaker partners with TC3 art program
By Liz Lawyer • elawyer@gannett.com • Staff Writer • July 25, 2009


DRYDEN - Mike Kehoe's vision for the future involves movie stars roaming the streets of Ithaca, local screenwriters' work getting produced in their hometown and a film festival to rival Sundance located in the Finger Lakes.

"There's a movement going on here for the arts," Kehoe said. "It's starting to vibrate in the minds of people here. There needs to be a light shined on these people."

Kehoe announced a new partnership with Tompkins Cortland Community College on Friday to strengthen connections between the film industry in Ithaca and opportunities in Hollywood. Kehoe has also worked with the Hangar Theater and the Actor's Workshop of Ithaca.

"The job opportunities in the entertainment industry are very good," said Christine Guest, a TC3 communication and media arts instructor. "It's not this mysterious closed door ... It's a lot of who you know, and having faculty who have contacts is important."

Kehoe said, "Someone helped me out early on, so I thought, 'I want to do this,' and what's produced by local students can give my company longevity."

The Trumansburg native lives and works in Los Angeles, where he is a writer, producer and director, and owns his own company, Taughannock Entertainment.

Kehoe got his start in 1994, when his first film, Second Dance, was accepted to Sundance Film Festival. Having worked for several years to bring Ithaca College students to Hollywood to serve internships, he now wants to expand the pipeline for talent from Ithaca to Los Angeles.

"I think we can create not just wonderful opportunities for students, but for the community and local economy," Kehoe said.

Most of the budget for a multi-million dollar film goes into the economy where it is filmed, he said.

Currently, he's trying to get one of his screenplays filmed in Ithaca, he said. He is also working on getting a shorts program going for Southern Tier filmmakers to prepare pieces to screen locally.

"If I can get all the filmmakers or dreamers in the area to make a short, we'll get people to come out and see the work of their neighbors," he said. He said he hopes exposing local work will help forge and strengthen connections between filmmakers, screenwriters and actors in the area.

Ultimately, Kehoe would like a production office from his company to be located in Ithaca, producing local works. A large film festival is another dream, but would take time to develop, he said.

"There's probably someone with a stack of screen plays here somewhere who wants to get them out there, but no one's been able to find them, to tap into that resource," Kehoe said.
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Quay Thompson, the project manager for HOLT Architects on the Peggy Ryan Williams Center at Ithaca College, talks about the view that prospective students see from a small balcony that overlooks the Park Business School building, left, and much of the rest of the Ithaca College campus.



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The top floor of the Peggy Ryan Williams Center at Ithaca College has views to the north to Cayuga Lake.



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The Peggy Ryan Williams Center at Ithaca College contains the admissions office, the senior staff of the college and several other departments. The building, which connects to the Dillingham Center by a bridge, is designed to be environmentally conscious and to use fresh air ventilation as much as possible.


IC's 'Gateway' building highly efficient
Occupants must interact with it
By Liz Lawyer • elawyer@gannett.com • Staff Writer • July 27, 2009


ITHACA - The general consensus at Ithaca College is that the new Peggy R. Williams "Gateway" building is pretty cool.

The $25 million building is expected to earn a platinum Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design rating thanks to all the innovative energy-saving features built into it, the campus' second building to earn a LEED rating. It will be the only college campus to have two LEED-certified buildings.

Although the occupants of the building - which includes the offices of admissions, enrollment planning, graduate studies, human resources, student financial services and upper administration - only moved in a few months ago and don't yet have the knack of all the gadgets, they do understand that you don't just occupy the building, you interact with it.

Project manager Quay Thompson, an architect for HOLT Architects, PC of Ithaca, said the challenge now is to develop a culture of awareness and responsibility in the building, which is necessary for the high-tech features to be any benefit.

Many of the features designed to make the building as close to carbon-neutral as possible require people to pay a little more attention than they would in other buildings. For example, opening windows on hot, muggy days makes the building's systems work much harder to remove the excess moisture from the air. Taking advantage of more economical toilets is another way: two flush modes use different amounts of water to flush liquids and solids.

"What we're trying to promote in the building is awareness," he said. "By being more aware of the environment," people can save a lot of energy use, he said.

The building's more passive systems include a geothermal heating system, rainwater collection, occupancy sensors and photo-sensitive dimmers on office lights, light shelves in the building's south-facing offices that bounce natural light farther into the room, and an automated system in the building's foyer that detects proper conditions (not too humid and cooler outside than in) and opens windows at the top of the building, causing a natural airflow from the basement, or garden level, through the top of the foyer.

The rainwater collected is used in toilets, and accounts for 85 percent of all the water used in the building, Thompson said. Compared to the alternative - pumping treated water up to campus, flushing it down the toilet, and pumping it back to a treatment plant - the rainwater is just one way the Gateway building is designed to be sensitive to its environment.

Some of these systems and practices Thompson said he expects to become common practice in construction, such as collecting rainwater or recycling as much of the construction waste as possible.

A group of staff members in the building have taken the responsibility ball and are running with it. They have formed a 'green team' to promote education of how the building works and what people can do to work with, rather than against, its systems.

"We have to learn and be informed of the most efficient ways to use and work in the building," green team member Duane Corbin said of the group's purpose.

"You folks are in an unusual building," said Marian Brown, special assistant to the provost and vice president for academic affairs, to the team. "Because this building is smarter than the average bear on campus, you have the opportunity to be leaders for the rest of campus... Nobody else on campus is experiencing this, even in the other (LEED-certified) building. No one else has these systems."

Some of the goals the team has: counter some misconceptions team members have noticed in the building, get employees to see the building as their own responsibility, and to make sure that platinum LEED rating comes through.



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I'm feeling much more confident about the Hotel Ithaca project. I can't really see the loss of 2 parking spaces being the cause of not building the hotel. There's 2 large parking garages withina block and 1/2 of those spaces.

On the other hand, the historic designation and study could put the Collegetwon projects on the back burner for quite a while.


A site plan of the proposed Collegetown Terrace Apartment complex shows in yellow the footprint of the new buildings that will replace all the buildings in the area bounded by South Quarry Street, East State Street and Valentine Place except the three buildings in gray. Quarry Arms, Boiler Works and Casa Roma are part of Ithaca's East Hill Historic District.




Terrace proposal raises historical issues
Hotel Ithaca gets early OK
By Krisy Gashler • kgashler@gannett.com • Staff Writer • July 29, 2009


ITHACA - Ithaca's Planning Board has given preliminary approval to the Hotel Ithaca project and has begun the environmental review process for the Collegetown Terrace Apartments.

At their Tuesday night meeting, planning board members approved a document that laid out concerns on issues such as traffic and historic resources related to the apartment project.

The proposal calls for demolishing all but three buildings in the 16.4-acre area bounded by Quarry and State streets, Valentine Place and Six Mile Creek and replacing them with seven buildings that would house approximately 1,270 people. The site currently houses about 635 people.

The three buildings that will remain are all within the East Hill Historic District. At Tuesday's meeting, planning board members and city planning staff said there may be other buildings in the area that are not historically designated but that merit further research on their historic value during the environmental review process.

Board member Tessa Rudan highlighted the former nurse's residence, which "may be dedicated" to Finger Lakes native Jane A. Delano. Delano founded the American Red Cross nursing corps, led the entire nursing corps during World War I, and is buried in Arlington National Cemetery, Rudan said.

She also has been featured on a stamp in the African Republic of Mali because "she figured out the mosquito netting technique before there was scientific evidence to explain why it worked," board Chairman John Schroeder said.

Members of the public will have the opportunity to weigh in on issues they think should be addressed in the project's environmental impact statement at a meeting scheduled for 7:30 p.m. Thursday, Sept. 10, at City Hall, 108 E. Green St. The city planning department will also accept written statements on the project.

For Hotel Ithaca, the proposed $27 million hotel at the eastern edge of the Commons, the biggest outstanding issue is where to locate the bus stop, project architect Scott Whitham said.

While the hotel is under construction, the stop is scheduled to move around the corner to East State Street, near the Community School of Music and Arts. Hotel developers, the city and Tompkins Consolidated Area Transit officials have discussed the idea of moving the bus stop there permanently so that the stop and the hotel drop-off don't interfere with each other.

The move would require eliminating two metered parking spots, which half a dozen merchants and property owners said Tuesday would spell disaster for their businesses. Property owner Donald Dickinson said he rents to four tenants on the block and two have said that if the new bus stop goes there, they'll leave.

But keeping the bus stop on Aurora Street could result in hotel guests parking in the bus pull-off, Whitham said.

Schroeder said he wants to make sure the Hotel Ithaca doesn't mimic the situation at the Hilton on Seneca, where the guest pull-off squeezes out the sidewalk.
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Y'know, the funny thing about chairman John Schroeder is that I actually interact with the guy on a weekly basis. He works for the Cornell Daily Sun, and I write for it. His station and my work area couldn't be more than twenty feet apart.

However, I don't know if I could ever break the ice and talk about proposed construction in Ithaca with him. I am a little suspect that I'll just be written off as another college student who doesn't know what he's talking about.
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^ I say strike up a conversation about SSP and you're interests in cities/architecture/development. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

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Judging by the comments on those articles, Ithaca sounds a lot like Thunder Bay.
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^ It probably is a bit like Thunder Bay, Ithaca gets over 100 inches of snow every winter.



Here's a nice spot of business news from the Ithaca Journal:



Manufacturer opens Ithaca office
August 5, 2009

ITHACA One of India's largest and oldest industrial firms has opened an office in downtown Ithaca in the Bank of America Building at 202 The Commons, the building's owner and management company, Ithaca Renting, announced Monday.

Godavari Biorefineries of Mumbai, India has diversified manufacturing interests in sugar, specialty chemicals and renewable energy. It expects to have about $200 million in sales this year, according the firm's Web site.

The Ithaca office will manage North American joint ventures and seek new opportunities in biotechnology and renewable products.

Ithaca was chosen because many employees are Cornell graduates and the company is pursuing collaborations with research faculty in producing green fuels and renewable products, said Trevor Wirsig, Godavari's Ithaca manager. In addition, he said, "Ithaca provides a great natural backdrop to inspire creative thinking."
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And now some not so good news. The initial plan the developer wanted was for a 7 story condo building. That's what the neighbors were upset about.
From the Ithaca Journal.


Financial woes halt demolition project
Costs hinder work at Ithaca Gun site
By Krisy Gashler • kgashler@gannett.com • Staff Writer • August 5, 2009


The removal of demolition debris at Ithaca Gun has stopped because the development team apparently doesn't have the money to pay its contractors.

A series of surprises, increased state oversight and community involvement has resulted in cost overruns totaling almost $1 million, according to a letter from property owner Wally Diehl, project engineer Pete Grevelding and developer Frost Travis sent to Mayor Carolyn Peterson on June 30.

The development team initially estimated demolition and cleanup would cost $1.46 million. They now estimate it will cost $2.3 million, according to the letter, which Peterson provided to the Journal on Tuesday.

The cash-flow situation apparently is so tight, the development team can't afford to dispose of the remaining debris.

"I think there's basically an issue of having the money in hand to pay people to do the work," Peterson said. "My focus right now is not to have those piles sitting there."

She submitted a resolution, which Common Council will consider tonight, asking that the $840,000 in state money intended for redevelopment go instead toward cleanup.

The city earned a $2.3 million state Restore NY grant to subsidize the developers' project to clean up the site and redevelop it into 33 high-end condos and a public walkway to the Ithaca Falls overlook.

Appointment of a Community Advisory Group, a lengthy asbestos-removal process and "unanticipated environmental procedures, review and approvals" all led to cost overruns, according to the developers' letter.

Peterson said it cost more than expected to preserve the smokestack and its foundation, deal with some potentially contaminated bricks, and more strictly monitor of the air at and near the site.

Before Travis' 2007 proposal, Diehl twice proposed condo projects that would have covered cleanup costs without state help, but they were rejected by neighbors as too large. With no subsidy on the redevelopment side, the project "will require some creativity on the part of Travis & Travis and their architects," the letter stated.

Peterson said she hadn't heard any discussion about a bigger project or more condo units.

"Certainly, with working with the neighborhood, the preference was the proposed project. So I don't know if there's a proposal in mind, but I wouldn't be entirely surprised if there needs to be some re-thinking," she said.

Common Council will meet at 7 p.m. tonight at City Hall, 108 E. Green St.
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Thunder Bay gets barely 75 inches of snow every year...

The small town mentality is the same though.
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