PHILADELPHIA | Lowrise/General Developments Thread II

[ScreamShatter]

Originally Posted by BroadandMarket

Are you serious? It's not a real proposal. This is from the New Jersey Economic Development Authority, not the 76ers. This will never be built so I'll get ahead of that. The 76ers, if they picked Camden, would never pick North Camden. This site is 1 mile walk from the nearest Patco station and Patco can't handle the demand for a 18,000 person arena.

Putting a state funded arena and highrises basically on top of 2 story rowhomes in one of the poorest neighborhoods in America is especially evil. NJ should be embarrassed for even suggesting this. It's a massive waste of money and insult to the citizens of Camden. This would 100% be more disruptive to North Camden than Chinatown.

These are the types of houses that would have an arena and highrises in their backyard with insane traffic because there is no way to get to a Camden arena except by car. If you've ever been to a event at BB&T, you would know that.

Never say never. City could buy up those pieces of land and houses then redevelop that entire area. It’d be transformative for Camden.

Philly liberals and NIMBY activists could screw this up big time. Instead of saying NO to everything, they should be trying to figure out how to make the arena work.

[el don]

Originally Posted by ScreamShatter

Never say never. City could buy up those pieces of land and houses then redevelop that entire area. It’d be transformative for Camden.

Philly liberals and NIMBY activists could screw this up big time. Instead of saying NO to everything, they should be trying to figure out how to make the arena work.

No way! That's not how things work in la la land. Poor people are allowed to stay in whatever part of the city they want forever. I mean look at the history of the entire world, it's always been that way. It might be a shithole, but at least it's their shithole.

[ScreamShatter]

Originally Posted by el don

No way! That's not how things work in la la land. Poor people are allowed to stay in whatever part of the city they want forever. I mean look at the history of the entire world, it's always been that way. It might be a shithole, but at least it's their shithole.

Ha…! When the liberal and Chinatown activists push the arena to Camden, what social programs and budget will the city need to cut when that tax revenue goes?

[blart]

9/14 Spark building

[PHLtoNYC]

Thoughts?

Philadelphia gets its biggest historic district in decades in Washington Square West
https://www.inquirer.com/news/philad...-20240913.html

Washington Square West’s new historic district includes 1,441 properties across roughly 26 city blocks. The designation is the culmination of a years long effort by preservationists and the Washington Square West Civic Association. And it comes over the objections of some residents who don’t want restrictions on their properties and urbanists who argued the designation would hinder development.

The district stretches about half a square mile in an area between South Broad and Eighth Streets and Sansom and South Streets. It sits between the Society Hill district to the east and the Rittenhouse-Fitler district to the west.

The nomination’s highlighted period of significance for the district stretches from 1740 to 1985. About 20 parking and vacant lots are among the properties included in the district.

Staff at the Historical Commission reexamined the archaeological arguments that were made for those lots and found deficiencies. As a result, the commission reclassified all but two lots from “contributing” to “noncontributing,” which means they are subject to less review.

[TempleGuy1000]

^More embarrassing institutional rot in Philadelphia. It's probably the first "historic" district that spans 250 years. It's a joke and meant to prevent new construction by the wealthy homeowners in the area.The historical commission lets the actual historic buildings rot and burn down in favor of keeping out new neighbors for their well-connected friends.

[mcgrath618]

Originally Posted by PHLtoNYC

Thoughts?

Philadelphia gets its biggest historic district in decades in Washington Square West
https://www.inquirer.com/news/philad...-20240913.html

Washington Square West’s new historic district includes 1,441 properties across roughly 26 city blocks. The designation is the culmination of a years long effort by preservationists and the Washington Square West Civic Association. And it comes over the objections of some residents who don’t want restrictions on their properties and urbanists who argued the designation would hinder development.

The district stretches about half a square mile in an area between South Broad and Eighth Streets and Sansom and South Streets. It sits between the Society Hill district to the east and the Rittenhouse-Fitler district to the west.

The nomination’s highlighted period of significance for the district stretches from 1740 to 1985. About 20 parking and vacant lots are among the properties included in the district.

Staff at the Historical Commission reexamined the archaeological arguments that were made for those lots and found deficiencies. As a result, the commission reclassified all but two lots from “contributing” to “noncontributing,” which means they are subject to less review.

I, for one, welcome preserving what makes Philadelphia Philadelphia.

It also means that whatever gets built on those 20 parking lots can’t look like shit.

[DeltaNerd]

Originally Posted by Arch+Eng

What incentives are we offering for Tech companies to move here or start here? We should give them a 5 year tax abatement or something.
Maybe we could focus on new emerging tech industries like A.I. or crypto.

No.
I'm a software engineer. What does tech even mean?

Every company is already deploying/developing A.I. for whatever uses. Philly is needs to focus on getting back manufacturing which would bring in "tech" (software engineering) jobs. We have infrastructure to do that here.

[3rd&Brown]

Originally Posted by TempleGuy1000

^More embarrassing institutional rot in Philadelphia. It's probably the first "historic" district that spans 250 years. It's a joke and meant to prevent new construction by the wealthy homeowners in the area.The historical commission lets the actual historic buildings rot and burn down in favor of keeping out new neighbors for their well-connected friends.

Weird take.

This is not an impoverished neighborhood where most homeowners can't afford to maintain their homes (i.e. the usual argument against historic districts in other areas).

New construction can still happen. Modification of old buildings can still happen. If anything, it will just prevent Chinatown specials from going up in the neighborhood.

[thoughtcriminal]

Originally Posted by DeltaNerd

Every company is already deploying/developing A.I. for whatever uses. Philly is needs to focus on getting back manufacturing which would bring in "tech" (software engineering) jobs. We have infrastructure to do that here.

It would be huge if we could bring manufacturing back. Every time I take the train into center city, I see all the abandoned factories and it feels like I'm looking at bodies in a morgue. If even half of them could be resurrected, the benefit to the city would be immeasurable.
People need stuff, and stuff needs to be manufactured. So why not manufacture it here? Those things could be "tech" things, like computer chips. But they could also just be every day items that people still need.

[Raja]

Praise be!

https://wooderice.com/fishtown-is-op...en-9m-to-4-am/

[BroadandMarket]

Originally Posted by Raja

Praise be!

https://wooderice.com/fishtown-is-op...en-9m-to-4-am/

So is this supposed to replace the food trucks that set up outside of the Frank Furness Wells Fargo? If so...this location isn't far but isn't close. No one wants to walk under 95 at 2 AM, they want to stay at Frankford and Girard. This will really only be relevant to people leaving a concert or Other Half. The whole point of the food trucks now is that they are immediately visible, available and inviting. I appreciate them trying something different but this is a miss IMO. When you go to Austin on Rainey street, the food truck lot is directly on Rainey street, not a 10 minute walk under 95/Front Street.

[Urbanthusiat]

Originally Posted by BroadandMarket

So is this supposed to replace the food trucks that set up outside of the Frank Furness Wells Fargo? If so...this location isn't far but isn't close. No one wants to walk under 95 at 2 AM, they want to stay at Frankford and Girard. This will really only be relevant to people leaving a concert or Other Half. The whole point of the food trucks now is that they are immediately visible, available and inviting. I appreciate them trying something different but this is a miss IMO. When you go to Austin on Rainey street, the food truck lot is directly on Rainey street, not a 10 minute walk under 95/Front Street.

My thoughts exactly. Very inconvenient location for someone who mostly goes out along Girard and Frankford. This is solving a problem that doesn’t exist, I’d rather more housing be built on the lot.

[PurpleWhiteOut]

Someone behind the scenes has been hell-bent on getting the food trucks off of Girard and Frankford, since there was an attempt previously to ban sidewalk sales there. This just seems like a newer attempt by whoever was behind that to make it happen