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I am almost sure that we've seen this before on NLA ut if we have it's been many years ago.

My file says it was taken somewhere in Inglewood in 1951.


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I'm hoping someone who grew up in the Inglewood area might remember this little 'Red Car' ride and where it was located.

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Could this be the "Tinker Town" discussed on page 2599? It was in two locations on the east side of Crenshaw, south of Exposition.
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Here's a photo I got obsessed with a while back. It depicts none other than L. Ron Hubbard. I think it's an amazing photo; that's it. Nothing surreptitious. So all that's needed to restage this would be the location, some sunglasses, and a velour Navy uniform.

I didn't post it here because early indications were that it was in Portland, Oregon. But a Portland subreddit said there weren't many rooftop antennas there during WWII. It was then that I discovered a subreddit called r/wherewasthistaken. I posted the photo there, and two hours later I had the location: San Diego. Amazingly, all the buildings in the photo are still standing, but unfortunately modern buildings block the view so I won't be able to recreate the shot.

The dark building is the Pickwick Hotel, the white building on the right is the U.S. Grant Hotel, and the stairstepped building on the left is the El Cortez Condominiums building.

I tried putting an unsolved mystery photo from NLA in the subreddit group, but nothing much came of it. I did solve a couple photos myself, though. Anyway, you might find it interesting.

https://www.reddit.com/r/wherewasthistaken/

Also: https://www.reddit.com/r/whereisthis/

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Could this be the "Tinker Town" discussed on page 2599? It was in two locations on the east side of Crenshaw, south of Exposition.
Yes! I think you're correct, Flyingwedge. ..Thanks for your help.



I really like the logo on this old matchbook for Goodhew Ambulances.




Here's a nice shiny example from the 1970s.


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A 1970 Cadillac commercial chassis. Ambulance body by Superior Coach Corp. of Lima, Ohio. Formerly in service with Goodhew Ambulance Service in Los Angeles, California.




And from the 1990s.




Do you know who's having a worse day than this ambulance driver. . . the patient still in the back.


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La Popular was located at 4585 Whittier Blvd. The Polacos Pool Hall was at 4569. Stones for Credit, 4528 Whittier Blvd. All East Los Angeles.
Thanks, corriganville. I appreciate your help.



Here are few more images of Whittier Blvd. from the film Boulevard Nights. (1979)











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The theater (building) still stands.


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Although the optometrist is long gone. (and the murals)

All from theatersinmovies

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These captures are from "Abandoned", a 1949 release starring Dennis O'Keefe, Gayle Storm, Jeff Chandler and Raymond Burr....the story is a tawdry affair of baby brokerage and murder, but it does feature several downtown locations....the film is here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plPz...nnel=MovieLand


....early on O'Keefe and Storm are walking west in the 200 block of E. 5th St.....




....the awning of the Lorane Hotel at 241 E. 5th is visible....






....that's the left leg of O'Keefe as the couple enters an open-to-the-street pool room/shoeshine parlor....











.....we are looking south down Maple Ave......










I'm fairly certain the pool room was in the space with the blue and white sign, and the Plantation Cafe in the storefront adjacent on the right....the Lorane Hotel is now the "Lorraine".


I believe this stretch of E. 5th would have been considered within the confines of Skid Row in 1949, the Lorane was likely a $2/night flop....the area had no doubt gone to seed but appears in these images somewhat tolerable...

....now, it's descended into a dystopian nightmare, a scene of utter urban desolation.
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The family that owned Edwards Steak House on Alvarado in MacArthur Park wrote a letter to the Los Angeles Times about their decision to close in 1990 after reading about the current status of Langer's Delicatessen. 100-year-old Lynette Rausch, who started the restaurant shows off some historic photos in the video. https://www.latimes.com/00000192-360...8b21c60000-123





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From the LA Times today:

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Privacy hedges and walls mask notable — and notorious — L.A. properties
Much about the city’s famous or infamous sites won’t be obvious from a tour bus.


PATT MORRISON

Welcome home.

Not your home. Probably not a place you’d even want to be your home.
But welcome to some of the Houses of Los Angeles — notorious, historic and just plain fabulous.

So many superb and significant houses have slipped through L.A.’s civic fingers and into the steel scoop of a bulldozer, yet the city has just chosen to make a stand in Brentwood, preserving in perpetuity as a cultural-historic monument an otherwise undistinguished 1929 Spanish-style house that actress Marilyn Monroe bought in 1962, lived in for six months, and died in.
It’s on 5th Helena Drive.
There are 25 Helena Drives in Brentwood, each a cul-de-sac preceded by a different ordinal number — 7th, 19th, etc. It’s the handiwork of a 1920s developer, Richard Peter Shea, a poor man who made good and who also built Shea’s Castle, a grandiose Irish confection in the Lancaster desert. He may have named the cul-de-sacs for his daughter, Helena. In December 1932, two months after Shea’s wife, Jane, died, Shea’s body washed up in the surf near Venice. In his pocket was a glum note, and around his neck was a container holding Jane’s ashes. How’s that for a little excursion down the research rabbit hole?
You already know three kinds of L.A. houses: expensive, ridiculously expensive, and get-the-eff-outta-here expensive.
So now, let’s have a lookie-loo tour of houses of another three kinds.
Here in Southern California, some of the greatest 20th century architectural talents devoted themselves to private residences. Richard Neutra; Paul Williams; Wallace Neff; Rudolph Schindler; John Lautner and his Chemosphere; Pierre Koening and his “case study houses,” made famous by Julius Shulman ’s photographs; the Frank Gehry house that elevated plywood and chain link to artistry. Frank Lloyd Wright built eight houses hereabouts, one of them La Miniatura in Pasadena, which he said he “would have rather built … than St. Peter’s in Rome.”
Most are off-limits to public perusal. If only we adopted London-style blue plaques, at least people would know that places of note are in there somewhere.
The historic:
Some adobes are survivors from the Spanish and Mexican eras, and they’re found from Calabasas to Whittier, San Fernando to Compton, Pomona to Long Beach.
A number are closed to the public. The 1852 Gilmore Adobe is one of them, not built by anyone named Gilmore, but named because it sits at the heart of the old Gilmore property that’s now the Farmers’ Market and the Grove.
The oldest non-Native-American house in L.A. County, the Las Tunas adobe, in San Gabriel, was built in 1776, the same time important people on the other side of the continent were doing some other stuff. It’s where the padres of the San Gabriel mission lived for a time, and it’s reputedly where the first orange seedlings in California were planted.
In the city of L.A. itself, the grand old man of adobes is the Avila Adobe, built in 1818 by Francisco Avila, once mayor of the city. More than a century later, it became the anchor to the makeover/restoration of Olvera Street.
To me, the most thrilling of them sits — sat — across from the thrill-ride capital of L.A., Universal Studios. On Jan. 13, 1847, on the porch of this now-vanished adobe, two men signed a cease-fire agreement that ended the Mexican-American war in “Alta California,” Mexican California. The treaty’s terms were supposedly proposed by a Californio matriarch named Bernarda Ruiz de Rodriguez, who persuaded the two men to stand down. Andres Pico was a Californio statesmen and acting governor of Alta California, and Lt. Col. John C. Fremont was an American army officer always on the lookout for glory, whatever his orders.
The original adobe itself, 99 by 33 feet, was taken down in 1900 — it had been latterly used as a veterinarian’s office — and an approximate replica was built but, typically for L.A., neglected. In the 1990s, the MTA, about to build more turn lanes, uncovered the actual foundations of the original adobe, roof tiles, and ceramic floor tiles upon which the 1847 treaty-makers probably walked.
What to do? Make drivers wait another 90 seconds or so, or pave over one of L.A.’s most significant sites? At least part of it is preserved under glass at the Campo de Cahuenga historic site. Most drivers still turn into Universal City; the “Psycho” house means more to them than the Cahuenga adobe.
The horrific:
Crime sensations come and go — some lost in memory, some trumped by grislier crimes. Even the allure of the Hollywood-plus-homicide formula can dwindle. I once drove around Beverly Hills with Merv Griffin, who was well steeped in local history and pointed out the so-and-so-lived-here spots, and some sinister ones, like the house where actress Lana Turner’s daughter stabbed and killed her mother’s thuggish boyfriend. How much does that 1958 banner-headline crime resonate with anyone but “murderinos” today?
In its day, the Feb. 1, 1922, unsolved murder of director William Desmond Taylor left Americans both fascinated and morally high-horsing about those sinful Hollywood people.
Taylor — who had ditched his wife, kids, and his original name — was shot to death in his bungalow in the Alvarado Court Apartments at 404 S. Alvarado in the Westlake neighborhood. When the cops arrived, they found, per The Times, Paramount executives and actors and actresses poking through drawers and closets, and the butler washing dishes as the dead man lay on the floor.
Clues and evidence were muddled — some deliberately. The rumor that Taylor was a ladies’ man was possibly floated by studio execs to divert any gossip that Taylor may have been a man’s man — that is, gay. A neighbor glimpsed the likely killer and was convinced it was “a woman dressed up like a man.” That woman may have been the mother of the young silent star Mary Miles Minter, who had a pash for Taylor. For a long while, Taylor’s address was a must-see for the more ghoulishly minded.
For notorious addresses, it’s hard to outdo the Laurel Canyon townhouse on Wonderland Avenue, the site of the July 1, 1981, quadruple murders that birthed movies and TV shows for more than 25 years.
It has a tabloid-magnet, tawdry cast of characters: four people deep into drugs being beaten to death; a porn actor; a drug-dealing, money-laundering nightclub owner and his bouncer; and a witness who was Liberace’s lover and got plastic surgery to look like the campy Vegas performer. The street name is a character, too, and it tees up the easy tropes about the “dark side of Hollywood.”
Porn performer John C. Holmes was acquitted of the murders and then died of AIDS. The nightclub owner, Eddie Nash, was acquitted of murder in a second trial after a bribed juror hung the jury in the first one. But Nash pleaded guilty to federal criminal charges, including conspiracy to murder.
And what kind of neighborhood was this “Wonderland,” where the locals were so used to hearing chaotic noises from the townhouse that when the screaming began at around 4 a.m. on July 1, one neighbor heard screams and saw lights on there, and rather than call police, she turned on her TV to drown out the sound? And another neighbor said with a shrug in his voice, “Who knows who’s been on primal scream therapy or tripping on some drug?” The ugly ’80s in a nutshell.
Scoot ahead to the 1990s, and a man who was renting the place said that “sometimes I sit in my living room and imagine where so-and-so must have died … but I’m getting a $400 break in the rent, so I’m staying put.”
I don’t have to spend overlong on crimes that are almost as renowned today as they were 55 years ago, when they happened — the Manson family murders. Actress Sharon Tate and three others were killed in a Benedict Canyon house one night, and the next, Leno and Rosemary LaBianca were murdered in their Los Feliz home .
The rented Tate house, with its ghastly ghosts, was not put up for sale until 1988, and there was a rumor that Tate’s widower, director Roman Polanski, had offered $1.5 million to bulldoze it. In 1994, an investor did indeed tear down the house and start building a Mediterranean villa. (Soon after, You’ve Got Bad Taste, a store near Sunset Junction, was selling what purported to be pieces of wallboard from the destroyed house.)
An Anaheim couple bought the former LaBianca house in the 1980s at a price well below comps. It has sold several times since.
Does “Rockingham” ring a bell? Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman weren’t murdered at O.J. Simpson’s Brentwood house, but that’s where Simpson ended his melodramatic Bronco chase and where police found a bloody glove.
For a time there were O.J. tours; you could cruise past his house in a white Bronco. Neighbors were tickled when the house was bought in 1998 and flattened not long thereafter.
In the last house in this theme, six people died in one of the biggest firefights in LAPD history. But it’s so far from the glamour-and-gore neighborhoods that it hardly gets a second glance.
It was a little yellow stucco house in South L.A., practically elbow-to-elbow with the ones next door. In May 1974, a woman renting the house was offered $100 to let some people stay. “Some people” turned out to be a half-dozen or so members of the SLA, the Symbionese Liberation Army. The urban guerrilla group had kidnapped newspaper heiress Patricia Hearst three months before and was on the run.
It didn’t take long before neighbors took notice, and one went to the cops.
Tear gas started a fire, and the fire blew up some of the thousands of rounds of ammo the SLA had cached in the house. Four of the members died inside and two others as they tried to get away. It was broadcast live on L.A. television.
The address is now a canopied driveway of a large adjacent house.
The glam, or louche:
Across the late 19th and into the 20th century, the “in” address for renowned bohemians and celebrities was a stone house on the lip of the Arroyo Seco. Charles Lummis, a swashbuckling figure whose parties were the Vanity Fair Oscar parties of their day, lived there. Lummis was an extraordinary figure: an L.A. Times editor, city librarian, pal of Teddy Roosevelt, lover, poet, Native American ethnographer, cultural preservationist and founder of L.A.’s first real museum, the Southwest Museum.
Lummis built his house, El Alisal, with rocks dragged out of the arroyo, and opened it for business, the business of entertaining L.A.’s visiting luminaries. In the hundreds of pages of his guest book are signatures, drawings and verses by his guests: John Muir, Dorothea Lange, Douglas Fairbanks, Ida Tarbell, Carl Sandburg, Clarence Darrow, Will Rogers, and the divine Sarah Bernhardt. The slight slope of the concrete floor made it easy to hose the place down after the parties; Lummis called them his “noises.”
The Playboy Mansion, in Holmby Hills, is another 1920s mock-Tudor sprawl whose living adornments, Playboy Playmates, and its testosterone toys, like a game room and the legendary “grotto,” enhanced the reputation of its owner, Playboy publisher Hugh Hefner . A pass to “the Mansion” was an entrée to the Playboy lifestyle, with its hubba-hubba mix of famous men and ornamental women, a place where the word “swinging” was used unironically. I visited the place twice, to interview Hefner, and the second time — a few years before Hefner’s 2017 death, it struck me as rather grimy and neglected. The city has extended something called a “permanent protection covenant” to the place, which is privately owned and used for business promotions and TV productions.
The closest any house might have come to the world’s conception of Los Angeles in the 1960s converged at a Spanish-style house on North Crescent Heights, home of Dennis Hopper and his wife, Brooke Hayward, an actress and daughter of a rich and troubled family. If you created a Venn diagram overlapping everything that was young and hip and edgy, they all converged there. We shall not see its like again.
The swingingest place of its day — that day being the 1920s — might have been the house at 649 West Adams Blvd., an address that silent movie fans knew because a couple of their favorites lived there.
The house was built around 1905 for businessman Randolph Miner and his wife, a dignified socialite. It was yet another of those mock-Tudor houses that had such a vogue for much too long. Miner’s wife, Zulita, a socialite and arts patron, was a great-great-granddaughter of Jose Dario Arguello, a soldier who led the pobladores to settle Los Angeles in 1781 and was briefly an interim governor of Spanish California.
The couple sought broader social horizons in Europe, and around 1917 rented the place to Hollywood’s top vamp, actress Theda Bara. Lurid reports claimed that Bara furnished the house with props befitting her roles — skulls, crystal balls and the like — but a Times story shows her demurely dressed and posing like a house-proud young matron in her new home.
Bara didn’t stay long, and the next resident turned out to be even more notorious, and not by design.
Comedian Fatty Arbuckle was earning $5,000 a week and spending like it was his last paycheck, which, pretty soon, it was. His West Adams parties were legendary for their mayhem and Prohibition booze.
In September 1921, he threw a party in San Francisco, and an actress named Virginia Rappe died in the hotel suite. Arbuckle was tried three times for manslaughter, and finally acquitted with an apology from the jury, but his reputation was as dead as Rappe. Thereafter, director Raoul Walsh rented the house for a year or so, followed by Arbuckle’s onetime producer, Joe Schenck, and his wife, the actress Norma Talmadge.
Finally, perhaps exasperated, Estelle Doheny, an ardent Catholic and second wife of oil tycoon Edward Doheny , bought the house to extend their estate. In time, it became a residence for young seminarians and is now part of Mount St. Mary’s campus, on this Boulevard of Broken Dreams and Leases.
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Although I am in favor of keeping historic buildings around, Marilyn Monroe's house in Brentwood, mentioned above, is not one of them. There's nothing that great about it and it's in a place that hardly anyone is going to get to see it even if they tried to. (Didn't someone do a post about that here before, with aerials?) There's a lot of better places to save than that. Meanwhile, the company that said they were going to restore Earl Carroll's Theatre facade built their high-rise apartment building and opened it, but haven't done the facade yet.
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From the LA Times today:

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Privacy hedges and walls mask notable — and notorious — L.A. properties.
Much about the city’s famous or infamous sites won’t be obvious from a tour bus.


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Most are off-limits to public perusal. If only we adopted London-style blue plaques, at least people would know that places of note are in there somewhere.
London's blue plaques have fairly restrictive criteria, and are only put on buildings where a historical person of note once lived. It's a great idea, but would only cover a few of the locations listed in the article.

Another idea would be for Los Angeles to take part in the Open House event where buildings usually off-limits to the public are opened up for a day to show off their architecture. It's a worldwide festival and the current list of cities taking part includes Miami, New York and San Diego in the US, but no LA.
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We're discussing homes of note. Here's the home which was given to Jessie Benton Frémont. Its location was the NW corner of 28th and Hoover:


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LA Times, 8/15/1897


LA Herald, 5/10/1901

I'm not sure when it was razed or moved.
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Can this be true?

Jessie Benton Fremont's house at 1107 W. 28th St was moved in 1912 to 3117 Raymond (not Kenwood) Avenue . . .



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Here's the home which was given to Jessie Benton Frémont. Its location was the NW corner of 28th and Hoover:


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. . . where it survived until 2018 . . .



Jan 2018 GSV


. . . when it was torn down and replaced by this?

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Sad indeed to lose a structure with such an historical association. Let us hope that, rather than being due to some caprice of an owner/builder, the older structure chanced to burn down or something of that nature.

After Fremont, the owners I see up to the move are (going by the CDs):

1904: Edward R. Kellam, president Diamond Coal Company

1905: Samuel F. Hammond; with nurse Maggie Stewart

1906: William Bayly jr., secretary Crescent Wharf and Warehouse Co.

1907: Bayly continues, now with Bessie Larson, domestic

1908: Bayly continues

1909: Challen R. Parker, manager N.W. Halsey & Co., with Rose Clark, domestic

1910: Edward E. Easton, president Engineers Exploration Co.

1911: Easton continues

1912: Easton continues, with Maud Mouchon, maid

In 1913, Easton had moved to the nearby 2653 S. Hoover, which I guess is this house, known as the Bassett House, built in 1891:


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I'd like to get my hands on the person who slathered stucco over the entire home! ..



By happenstance, here's a somewhat similar home on eBay.

Either Pasadena / Los Angeles 1901


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It's so similar it might have been designed by the same architect.



The little boy looks like he's fishing or flying a kite but I'm pretty that's a scratch.




If he thinks he's fishing he's going to be there awhile.

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Edward E. Easton, one of the owners for a few years of the Fremont place, is of interest:

1908:


LA Herald, 5/28/1908

1924:


LA Times, 6/21/1924
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Hi Hoss,

The California Preservation Foundation has an annual event called "Doors Open California" where historic sites up and down the state have lectures, tours, and all sorts of special events. It's a lot of fun and occurs over several weeks from San Diego to Sacramento.

https://californiapreservation.org/doca/


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London's blue plaques have fairly restrictive criteria, and are only put on buildings where a historical person of note once lived. It's a great idea, but would only cover a few of the locations listed in the article.

Another idea would be for Los Angeles to take part in the Open House event where buildings usually off-limits to the public are opened up for a day to show off their architecture. It's a worldwide festival and the current list of cities taking part includes Miami, New York and San Diego in the US, but no LA.
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Thanks, Snix. It's good to hear that something similar is going on.
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One more item on the interesting Edward E. Easton. He and his family were involved in a somewhat epic adventure in a vessel off of Catalina when during the night the captain went missing.

The article is too long for me to reproduce here; but hopefully this link will bring you to it and its pictures (on my computer, Firefox seems to have difficulties showing the article; but it shows on Chrome and Edge):

https://cdnc.ucr.edu/?a=d&d=LAH19080...ston%22-------

Here's just a bit:


LA Herald, 5/28/1908

It appears the captain was never found.

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Poor Rosalie Bruce had her hair cut off by a crazed, jealous husband at their home in Bellflower in 1950. "Edward Lee Bruce, 26... a drapery installer, tied and gagged his wife, then cut off her waist-length hair after she returned from a visit to her mother in Ocean Park. His wife blamed his jealousy, which she said was unfounded."
LAT 5.9.50

The Bruce home was at 9149 E. Compton Blvd. in Bellflower. Although Google maps tells me that address is in Watts.



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Los Angeles Times 3.21.52
The hair grew back!

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The culprit husband Edward Lee Bruce,

The Los Angeles Times
Tue, Apr 11, 1950
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“The Bruce home was at 9149 E. Compton Blvd. in Bellflower. Although Google maps tells me that address is in Watts.”

Compton Blvd. becomes Somerset Blvd. in Bellflower. There is a 9149 Somerset Blvd. in Bellflower and it is a residence that might be the home. Perhaps the Bellflower section of Compton Blvd. was renamed sometime after the undesired haircut.
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Watkins

Hopping into the wayback machine for a moment, this early (ca. late 1870's) Watkins photo on the HDL site of Sonora Town caught my eye (sorry if it's been posted before) of the area, including the S.P.R.R. Depot in the distance. The neighborhood seems orderly and quiet.


https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/c...d/23479/rec/81


A close-up of the wall has the street name painted on it, I can't quite make it out, and I'm fumbling trying to find a street map to confirm. Any help?



This is from a "Recently Completed Digitization Project" collection that was new to me....at least I think it's new to me.
In case it's new to you:

https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/s...ion/mode/exact
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