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Old Posted Jun 1, 2017, 9:53 PM
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This undated photo is misidentified as "700 W 1st Street," but it obviously shows The Ryer and its apartment house
neighbors, the Kenneth and Fleur de Lis. At far left is 347 S. Grand:



SCWHR-P-005-N0323 at Seaver Center
Cool post, thanks. Let me add a bit to it.

One of our trio, as you mention, is the Fleur-de-Lis. There's a nice image of her at the Seaver as well:

seavercent

It's deal—at 333 south Grand, E. P. Bryan had Joseph Cather Newsom design a lovely shingle Queen Anne mansion, in 1888. Bryan sells the house in 1902 to HC Norris in February 1902, who sells to JE & Robert Marsh in April of 1903. The Marshes, a noted development team, demolish the house and hired Fred R. Dorn to design the Fleur-de-Lis, a "family hotel" with thirty-nine rooms, erected at the end of 1903.

Here she is, a little more downmarket, still noble (retaining a lot of elements—capitals, balcony, stuff that the Ryer had lost by the time she became the Stevens) in a 1959 Reagh:

calstatelib

The Kenneth, center, at 325 S Grand, is by W H Mohr, and built in 1905. The Ryer is also known, between being called the Ryer and the Stevens, as the Alta Cresta. From what I can tell it's also Fred Dorn, and built for RC Troger.

And at far left, 347 S Grand, is the magnificent, ill-fated Brunson.

Here's a crop of a larger image, 1913, looking from the roof of the Zelda, obviously.

usc

Note behind the Fleur-de-Lis the rooftop pergola of the Kenneth sticking up. The Ryer/AC/Stevens would be behind that. At far left, again, the Brunson, and a bit o' rooftop spire at 355.

Now look across the street at the white gal with the four Corinthian columns. That's 312/16 S Grand and there's ALSO a nice image of her at the Seaver:

seaver

She's built, I'm guessing about 1903 and haven't discovered the architect, by contractor PJ McCormick, who built the Kenneth. (Note the two empty lots with For Sale signs next to 312-6; there goes the Palace Garage (1917, AC Martin) and the Biltmore Apts (1916, EJ Smith) like so—

getty/nadel
(similar shot here)

Our Greek-Revival-with-Bay-Windows is where the kindly old Good Samaritan helps the little girl who's hurt her ankle, and he gets nothing but grief for it, in Losey's remake of M:




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Old Posted Jun 1, 2017, 11:00 PM
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Wow, thanks, Beaudry. I noticed on the 1894 Sanborn the home that the Fleur de Lis replaced and wondered what the story was.
Now I know!
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Philip Melnick http://www.artnet.com/artists/philip...ehE4ewrZr6YsQ2

Echo Park, Los Angeles, CA 1978






Here's a closer look at that great old laundry sign.


detail

I checked google street views....all the buildings at that intersection are older, so it must be there.
but I can't be certain which one it is. (unless it's the donut shop)
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The Cube Pyramid University, Alhambra, circa 1932

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The Cube Pyramid University, Alhambra, circa 1932

I don't think we've seen it before here. Does anyone know if it was a real university? It looks a bit odd to me!

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Old Posted Jun 2, 2017, 1:13 AM
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There's information on the pyramid here MartinT. (your photograph is an improvement on the one I posted)
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=17491


"Long Beach, California, 4th Street Residence of F M Miller 1909 Photo Postcard"


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Long-Beach-C...IAAOSwCU1Y2HLC


reverse / with address


The home is gone, but there are survivors nearby.

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Philip Melnick http://www.artnet.com/artists/philip...ehE4ewrZr6YsQ2

Echo Park, Los Angeles, CA 1978


I checked google street views....all the buildings at that intersection are older, so it must be there.
but I can't be certain which one it is. (unless it's the donut shop)
I think the building you're looking for is the 1941 L'Atelier Cheung, the acupuncture studio at 1415 Echo Park Ave (the former parking lot to the left has been built over as part of that big, 1986 strip mall on the corner w/ Montana:

gsv

(The former French Hand Laundry is still hiding behind that camphor tree)

The little, much-remodeled house behind is from 1914:

gsv

ETA: We've been to this intersection before. I remember those nice 1932 apartments that stair-step up the slope and round the corner of el-shaped Fairbanks so nicely:


gsv
They were sold in 2015 and painted an alarming color early last year, but still have most of their original windows, so no particular harm done:

gsv

That's a nifty 2010 remodel, at the outer curve of Fairbanks, of a 1926 1+1 over a garage (I bet the owner isn't pleased about the current lurid salmon color of the over the road neighbors):

gsv

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Sorry, I've got no Compton reference stuff to bring to the table, but this then must be Willowbrook Ave. The PE didn't just wander anywhere it liked. My lousy memory from the 1970s thinks that the street was essentially residential then as it seems to be now. So the thought is that businesses would be clustered around the major E-W intersections: Rosecrans, Compton Blvd, Olive St. Good hunting to the hunters!
I could be wrong but it looks to me that the car is under a 1200 volt line. This would make it the San Bernadino line. The Compton line was 600 volts. Come on all you PE buffs, what you say?

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Here's a better look at the sign (image enlarged). The site says it was at the "Southeast corner of 1st and Atlantic".


longbeachheritagemuseum.org
Before we leave the subject, I found this short description of the Wayside Art Colony in Los Angeles in the 1930s: The WPA Guide to the City of Angels:


books.google.com
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That's a nifty 2010 remodel, at the outer curve of Fairbanks, of a 1926 1+1 over a garage (I bet the owner isn't pleased about the current lurid salmon color of the over the road neighbors):

gsv
I was hoping the Googlemobile may have captured the building before its makeover, but the first image on Fairbanks Place is 2011. From just around the corner, I thought the person in the window (also visible in t2's picture above) was wearing a straitjacket. Now that I've zoomed in, I think it's far more likely that the resident was just watching the Googlemobile go past with their arms folded .


GSV

It looks like the house gained a story during the makeover. It's just visible in the 2009 GSV image from Echo Park Avenue, but easier to see in the 1978 view below. My full post about Echo Park Court is here.

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Beaudry showed us the relevant page of 'Courtyard Housing in Los Angeles' in post #31578.

BTW - I'm not a fan of the new color. Are white buildings out of fashion at the moment?
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I agree Hoss. The hot pink isn't doing it for me.

Thanks for figuring out which building was the old french laundry t2.
I somehow overlooked the building behind the tree. (obviously)
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Here are some remarkable snapshots from a family photograph album.

from [B]CalifBoy at flickr



Gloria Graves 'Buried Alive' exhibit at Ocean Park Pier, Santa Monica, 1935.



I believe the large photograph beneath the $5,000 Reward sign is Gloria Graves. She looks a bit like Silvia Sidney.




postcard with Gloria Grave's autograph.





Here's the girl from the first photograph posing with a sassy looking woman.



If you look closely, the young girl is wearing a school sweater with a 35 (the year she graduated(?) from Lincoln High school in Los Angeles.
(I know this because of other photographs in the album)

Anyone who can dig up (pun intended ) more information about Gloria Graves will receive a free trinket from the Wayside Art Colony.
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I decided to add this because of the handwritten description at the bottom.



6 - 35

"Enjoyment under 5 tons of earth in a casket. Duration in 1936 was 148 days."


I just realized Gloria was the subject of a post by RCarlton 5 years ago.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=9831

so never mind about that promised trinket.

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Echo Park Court and 1416 Fairbanks Pl

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My full post about Echo Park Court is here.

Beaudry showed us the relevant page of 'Courtyard Housing in Los Angeles' in post #31578.
Thank you so much Hoss. I knew we'd been here before, but I couldn't shake it out of our back pages. The complex is somewhat Gill-esque, but also not. Someone recently paid $7.2 million for it. I guess they think that electric salmon color is trendy (or something). It makes me recoil.

The building next door, which is hard to like IMHO, is now part of the combined property.

The complex could be outstanding, but a much better design sensibility needs to be brought to bear on the project (and the clay roof tiles also need replacing).

Here's a old MLS shot of 1416 Fairbanks, which, at one time, had its own color scheme problem:

redfin (pix of the former, tired interior at the link)

From the remodel permit:


ladbs

It did gain a story and now has a roof garden (That pair of trees is on the roof). Because of the hillside, it also has a elevated, but flat, backyard. If one doesn't mind the stairs, they got themselves a great small house:

gsv

ETA, The 1913 Irving Gill Echo Park Court was at Lemoyne and Park (destroyed 1957):

scah

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I don't see the name Hamilton Burger anywhere...?
"Your Honor, I object." (22 sec.)
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William Talman Anti-Smoking Ad 1968

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Six weeks after filming this public service announcement, Talman died on August 30, 1968, at the age of 53.

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I wonder who left their glasses behind?


Getty Research Institute
Philip Johnson?
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Philip Johnson?




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That's Philip Johnson at the left.
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.... and Luis Barragan and IM Pei
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... and a horrendous spelling of voilà!


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A couple of weeks ago I posted Julius Shulman's exterior pictures of Zeeman's Clothing Co. At the time, I didn't realize that Mr Shulman had returned a year later to photograph the interior. This is "Job 349: Matcham and Heitschmidt, Zeeman's Clothing Co., 1948".



It's nearly wall-to-wall men's suits, but there's The Woman's Shop in the corner.



I think the sign on the back wall says "Gabardine Slax".



All from Getty Research Institute

For comparison, here's one of the exterior shots. In case you've forgotten, it was on Figueroa, just across from the Jonathan Club.


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That train appears to be The City of Los Angeles. There's a small round sign at the end of the club car. Same for the engine at the left side.


ebay
The "City of Los Angeles" was a Union Pacific train and did not travel through Burbank. The outbound train on the right is stoped in front of the Burbank station and was the train that hit the car. The train on the left is the inbound Lark and is held up account of the accident.

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That's Philip Johnson at the left.
Nice! Of course, this guy wore them first (or at least earlier than any of these guys), and I'd say better.


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I think the sign on the back wall says "Gabardine Slax".

"The only thing between him and us is a thin layer of gabardine!"

This photo really appeals to my OCD side...

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