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Old Posted Oct 8, 2016, 2:43 AM
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JERSEY CITY | Harborside Plaza 4 | 450 FT | 38 FLOORS

Mack Cali and SJP Properties are gearing up to develop a 1.2 million sqft office tower called Harborside Plaza 4 at the corner of Columbus and Hudson.



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http://harborsidejc.com/lease

There is currently a boom in residential units in Jersey City. It looks like office development will follow as vacancy rates along the waterfront is dropping and rents are rising.
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Incredible. Further adding to that JC list that you created in the compilation. 1.2 mil-sq ft is quite a large tower. Anything really over 1 mil sqft merits attention.

99 Hudson is 1.1 mil-sq ft. This will be quite bulky if it's around 450-500 ft @ 1.2 mil sq-ft and about half the height.

Also, look at its position relative to 99 Hudson:



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38 stories and 450 ft was the original designated height, but the original plan also included Harborside 6 and 7 with a smaller 20 story #6 and a nearly 60 story, 800+ft #7... now of course the lot where those two towers were designated is being developed into roughly three residential towers at 700 ft each, with one currently near completion with its exterior. Since this is likely to be the only remaining commercial lot developed in the Harborside designated lots(across by the Harborside #10 there is a lot for Harborside #8 and #9, both likely to become residential/hotel)wondering if it may turn out that Harborside #4 may turn out taller?

Is this a definite go? I linked and didn't see anything clear about a definite construction anytime soon. Looking at the render comparing it to Harborside 5 to the right it does look broader but somewhat taller as well, and I believe #5 is about 480ft? This looks a good 600ft in comparison at least.
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38 stories and 450 ft was the original designated height, but the original plan also included Harborside 6 and 7 with a smaller 20 story #6 and a nearly 60 story, 800+ft #7... now of course the lot where those two towers were designated is being developed into roughly three residential towers at 700 ft each, with one currently near completion with its exterior. Since this is likely to be the only remaining commercial lot developed in the Harborside designated lots(across by the Harborside #10 there is a lot for Harborside #8 and #9, both likely to become residential/hotel)wondering if it may turn out that Harborside #4 may turn out taller?

Is this a definite go? I linked and didn't see anything clear about a definite construction anytime soon. Looking at the render comparing it to Harborside 5 to the right it does look broader but somewhat taller as well, and I believe #5 is about 480ft? This looks a good 600ft in comparison at least.
Possible on the height increases. JC has shown to be very accommodative to development. The final height will reflect market demand. This is far from a definitive go, but they did update the rendering recently and it's Mack Cali's next up for the Jersey City waterfront. Mack Cali has seen its office portfolio near transit, especially along the JC waterfront, command higher rents and keep a low vacancy rate. The suburban office market has been underwhelming, promoting Mack Cali to sell off most of its suburban office portfolio to concentrate resources in Jersey City.

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2...city_as_i.html

http://www.northjersey.com/news/busi...city-1.1641887
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Possible on the height increases. JC has shown to be very accommodative to development. The final height will reflect market demand. This is far from a definitive go, but they did update the rendering recently and it's Mack Cali's next up for the Jersey City waterfront. Mack Cali has seen its office portfolio near transit, especially along the JC waterfront, command higher rents and keep a low vacancy rate. The suburban office market has been underwhelming, promoting Mack Cali to sell off most of its suburban office portfolio to concentrate resources in Jersey City.

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2...city_as_i.html

http://www.northjersey.com/news/busi...city-1.1641887
Cautious optimism is better to hear than everything being status quo... I also ask about the possible height increase because just looking at that rendering it appears somewhat taller than 101 Hudson(545 or so ft), Harborside 5(480 ft) and 10 Exchange Place(just over 490ft). Hopefully by the new year we will hear more about definitive plans but the new rendering is a substantial improvement over the clunky old design.
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This is a go!!!

Mack-Cali announces plans for Harborside 4 project in Jersey City, partnering with SJP

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Mack-Cali Realty Corporation is bolstering its Hudson Waterfront holdings in Jersey City, it said Monday, announcing plans to build Harborside 4, a 1.2 million-square-foot office tower, as part of a joint venture.
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MEET HARBORSIDE TOWER, JERSEY CITY’S FIRST COMMERCIAL TOWER IN OVER TWO DECADES



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The transformation of Jersey City’s skyline continues before our very eyes.

Mack-Cali and SJP Properties recently unveiled plans for Harborside Tower — the first commercial tower to be built in Jersey City in over two decades.

Designed by New York’s FXFOWLE — the same firm responsible for the New York Times Building, 11 Times Square, and Hudson Yards — Harborside Tower will rise 40 stories into the sky providing 1.2 million square feet of office space and two units of retail space — one at 12,000 square feet and the other at 25,000 square feet, both of which will be situated off the lobby.

Sporting a steel and glass facade, the waterfront tower is planned for LEED Gold certification and will boast the latest in “intelligent building” technology including a state-of-the-art distributed antenna system (DAS) for blazing fast Internet service/unlimited bandwidth, state-of-the-art exterior LED displays for branding opportunities, and a raised lobby to protect from flooding.
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http://www.jerseycityupfront.com/mee...r-two-decades/
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It's not really iconic but it's very nice. At officially 40 stories, probably about 500 ft or so as Harborside 5 is listed at 34 stories but 485 ft... so definitely going to be in that range at least. Top of the line technologically, communications, amenity wise and environmentally with sizable first floor retail component it will be a welcome addition to the skyline and a great alternative office choice for those who don't want to deal with New York City office rents. Hopefully there's tenants in line soon...when is the groundbreaking hoped for? There was nothing about that.
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Perfectly okay, I suppose.

But how is this the first commercial tower in two decades? The Goldman Sachs building was built in 2008-ish, no?
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MEET HARBORSIDE TOWER, JERSEY CITY’S FIRST COMMERCIAL TOWER IN OVER TWO DECADES




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