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Originally Posted by JHikka
I think my major issue with how this has been framed is that it's somehow Toronto's fault that it got 40-50cm dumped on it. Toronto didn't vote PC, and if car-centric suburbs in the GTA want to that's fine on them, but weather is weather regardless of what government there is at Queen's Park.
If someone from Toronto tried to blame people from literally anywhere else over the weather they'd be crucified. It's opportunistic at best.
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I am not blaming Toronto for the weather. I am blaming the GTA for the way it tends to vote.
https://www.durhamregion.com/news-st...tes-by-riding/
That is a lot of blue.
The problem is that these cuts did not just happen with for and Harris, but it has been happening for decades as a way to add programs to their election platform without making sure we have what we need in place.Just like the problems in the LTC homes or the hospitals are not just a PC problem. This started in the 80s with the NDP, then he PCs and Liberals just kept up the cuts. We need to stop cutting things like snow plowing to add some sort of government program that gies a tax break for the higher income earners.
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Originally Posted by Djeffery
Yeah, let's keep 1000 or more extra plows on hand on the off chance we get a major storm every few years that dumps a massive amount of snow in a short period of time at the worst time of day. Maybe we can just heat the highway so snow melts on contact.
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The problem isn't the 1000 extra plows needed (as you stated) but the need for competent plow operators. The race to the bottom has been the privatization of the operators.
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Originally Posted by ScreamingViking
Good points. 
And if this were a Conservative snowstorm, you'd think they'd have projected a lot but delivered a fraction. And then blamed the "lefties" for that. 
Weather is weather. Never a truer statement made.  |
If the key to having lots of snow was a PC government, I'd change my voting to PCs....
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Originally Posted by thewave46
There is not a highway in this province that can have 40-50 cm dumped on it and stay functional.
For all the bellyaching, the regions that get the worst snow conditions are generally east of the Great Lakes. This includes largish sections of Southern Ontario. I seemingly remember Highway 402 becoming an impassible mess a few years ago in winter. Didn’t people have to be rescued by helicopter?
It is interesting to note that the complaints about unfairness to ‘The North’ are repeated ad nauseum, some of the so-called northern city issues have more in common with southern cities than with small towns. Overloaded metro hospitals, crumbling infrastructure, issues with addiction and homelessness.
The rural-urban divide is more real than the North/South one.
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What makes up much of the North? A truck driver cannot drive West from Toronto without running out of driving hours. That would mean that the rural split you speak of is very real in Northern ON.
This is not about the fact that 30+cm of snow fell. This is about how the governments have been cutting the plow budget constantly over decades, and now it looks good to see the 401 shut down through the city of Toronto; something I thought I would never see. So, when the next PC candidate knocks on my door this spring, we have some great discussions ahead.
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