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Morgan's Pier is salivating at the notion of this.
They print money there as it is. You'll never be able to into that place now.
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Morgan's Pier is salivating at the notion of this.
Hopefully more places open up along the riverfront now that there will be a decent population living nearby. Cavanaugh's could definitely use some new management...
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Some photos of the site from PhillyYIMBY

Looks like test bores and/or soil samples were done at some point at the site. Not sure if that was reported here or not.





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https://phillyyimby.com/2020/12/work...ladelphia.html
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Old Posted Dec 8, 2020, 11:24 PM
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what permits have been issued for this site? Test bores can be taken a long time before you get to permitting or construction.
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Hopefully more places open up along the riverfront now that there will be a decent population living nearby. Cavanaugh's could definitely use some new management...
I saw that was for sale before all this insanity. I think it sold for around 4 milly.
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Not sure if the images are new. Apparently they submitted to CDR today

https://www.inquirer.com/business/du...outputType=amp



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Archaeological studies are tentatively scheduled to begin in early 2022, with construction following soon after.

Candidly, I'm going to miss my view of the bridge, but compared to One Water Street or Renaissance Plaza, this is pretty amazing. There are concessions to the historic elements of the neighborhood I'm so happy to see - preservation of the archaeology under a public park, developing context around the Wood Street Steps. Again, compared to One Water Street, who half-heartedly suggested they'd be open to the idea of preserving the Belgian block streets and installing granite curbs, and then snapping together modular garbage, ripping out the block streets and throwing down asphalt, it's a whole other universe of context, architecture, and community engagement.

Still, it's a bit of a bummer that it basically turns Water Street into an alley, and for the folks who live there now, it's a pretty unfriendly set of ground floors to have your windows facing.
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Water St is technically kind of an Alley now? I like the street though gives me a real nice post Dock & Riverfront Vibe.
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If this is 26 floors as opposed to 24, it probably will top 300 ft.
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Water St is technically kind of an Alley now? I like the street though gives me a real nice post Dock & Riverfront Vibe.
You're not wrong, but along this particular stretch, it retains its seawall vibe, even though so much of the river's been filled in over the intervening centuries.

In the oldest map of Philadelphia, you can see where Water meets Front and turned into Willow Street in a way that echoes the 1600s shore of the Delaware


But hey, they're only building on half the lot. You'll still be able to look out to the river from the steps. It's kind of astonishing the steps even exist, and that they were incorporated into the plans like that.



The new height tops out at 316' (elevation 322') when you include the mechanical space, the roof is 275' (elevation 281')

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Why is the mechanical top so big?
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You're not wrong, but along this particular stretch, it retains its seawall vibe, even though so much of the river's been filled in over the intervening centuries.

In the oldest map of Philadelphia, you can see where Water meets Front and turned into Willow Street in a way that echoes the 1600s shore of the Delaware


But hey, they're only building on half the lot. You'll still be able to look out to the river from the steps. It's kind of astonishing the steps even exist, and that they were incorporated into the plans like that.



The new height tops out at 316' (elevation 322') when you include the mechanical space, the roof is 275' (elevation 281')

This is a very nice design and a pretty good height for the area.

Considering the topic of the original shoreline of the Delaware River regarding the site; aren't their still steps near this building that use to lead down to the docks on the river?
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I just wonder why it looks like the crown of the building is 3 stories tall?? Overall it looks great though, really like the park.
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I just wonder why it looks like the crown of the building is 3 stories tall?? Overall it looks great though, really like the park.
Durst's trial of architect designer probably was running out and quickly finished the top in 5 minutes.
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as I noted in the general philly thread that mentions this project, it's not bad looking but it is yet another building that is wider than it is tall, which is disappointing.
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I think the more important factor is this gets Durst's journey into Philadelphia really started. I look at this project as the beginning. Think of how Brandywine transformed the Schuylkill over 15 years, starting with the Cira Centre. This tower represents "Durst on the Delaware," which hopefully in 10-15 years when everything south of the Ben Franklin gets built--we can be like, damn none of this was there a decade ago. It's all got to start somewhere. The park looks great too.

Anyone have an update on the cap park??
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