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And your point would be?
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That Academy Award winning director Mel Gibson and Teen Choice Award winning actor Vince Vaughn agree with me and wish there were a design approval process for the Midtown East rezoning.
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Which is why we can't have a panel of "people" deciding what's good and bad for the skyline of the city.
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Having a panel of people approving designs is not an impossibility. It would be more accurate to say that you personally wouldn't like it.
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when it would ironically be just the opposite.
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Your subjective opinion
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Remember when she decided that the Tower Verre just didn't cut it at a greater height? Well, it was her decision to make.
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This is what I like to call "small sample size theater." You need to learn and understand the difference between New York in 2009 and New York in 2019. The market is different, the post-9/11 fear of tall buildings is gone, and lopping off 200 feet from a 1,250 foot tower so as to not outshine the ESB simply wouldn't happen seeing as how the ESB has been surpassed in height by 4 (and counting) buildings since then.
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Developers have enough hoops to jump through just surviving the approvals process.
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So eliminate some of the other hoops instead. These aren't poor, fledgling, upstart developers just trying to put food on the table for their families. In fact, they're a highly nepotistic cabal/cartel with massive influence and they get tons of sweetheart deals from the government. Either way, they'll be making bank.
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Whether we get good buildings or bad, it needs to be left in the hands of the architects and developers who are designing and building these towers. Not people who may be pushing to meet their own agendas.
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It is my opinion that these buildings are essentially public art since a) architecture is an art form + b) the buildings have elements that are prominently visible to the public. You may disagree, but that's my opinion, and one of the things I love about SSP is the rich tapestry of diverse opinions that can be found here.
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Your subjective opinion. I believe, given the developer and architect, it will be stunning, and a landmark.
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I don't know why you and NYguy have this burning desire to remind people that taste in aesthetics is subjective, and right before giving your own subjective opinions to boot! I'm not too big on "muh individualism" so I think design approval should be a part of the process because most of the millions of people that will have to see this grotesque tower every day will think it's ugly. Londoners and Parisians are surely grateful that such is the case for their cities/metros; they'd hate to have a bunch of blue and/or concrete boxes punishing their eyes on a daily basis. INB4 "this is New York, you don't know how things work here."