Trans Canada Highway Twinning: Segments U/C

[wave46]

Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

I remember seeing a quote of about $9 billion to complete the twinning to the MB border. I say money well spent.

I am completely onboard if you can find a company who will build a divided 1,600km freeway through Canadian Shield for less than $10 billion.

I remain skeptical.

[wave46]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

I seriously wonder if there are cheaper ways to blast rocks (hint: technological advance).

The US tried Project Plowshare.

Project Plowshare

Naturally, people thought it a terrible idea.

Physics, she is a harsh mistress.

[Dengler Avenue]

Without Federal help in building and maintaining, 2151 km of Highway 417 (Ontario) will be heck of a headache...

@wave46 ...

Edit: Actually ya’ll know what? It’ll be good even if Feds only agree to completely take over the maintenance (and twinning?) of TCH along Lake Superior Shore (587 km). That’s all that matters.

@swimmer_spe: Truckers not ready for winter? Train them in those kind of weather. Repeal the outdated law and allow trucks to chain up. Impatient drivers? Let the cops teach them some lessons.

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

Without Federal help in building and maintaining, 2151 km of Highway 417 (Ontario) will be heck of a headache...

@wave46 ...

Edit: Actually ya’ll know what? It’ll be good even if Feds only agree to completely take over the maintenance (and twinning?) of TCH along Lake Superior Shore (587 km). That’s all that matters.

@swimmer_spe: Truckers not ready for winter? Train them in those kind of weather. Repeal the outdated law and allow trucks to chain up. Impatient drivers? Let the cops teach them some lessons.

Oh dear me....

Why are you stuck on the Superior Shore? It would be even more expensive. North of New Liskard, the land is less rock and more dirt, which makes for easy (and cheaper) construction.

As far as the drivers, you could double the cops, and you still wouldn't put a dent in the problems. Part of the issue is we all know, 20 over and you should be fine. That works for a car, but not when there are trucks only doing 15 over.

[Dengler Avenue]

In that case, let the feds take over the twinning and maintenance of Highway 11 between Hearst and Longlac and of Highway 17 between Ignace and Sistonens Corner.

[wave46]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

In that case, let the feds take over the twinning and maintenance of Highway 11 between Hearst and Longlac and of Highway 17 between Ignace and Sistonens Corner.

Getting the feds to take it on might be more of a challenge than actually getting it done.

The feds are good for passing the buck and signing cheques to ensure re-election.

[Spocket]

But the feds won't do it because if they're going to spend the money, they're going to put it somewhere far more useful to a far greater number of people.

[Dengler Avenue]

Sudbury only has 130M people though, and the feds are still willing to chip in (though everyone knows it’s a vote-buying plot).

[flipper316]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...alls-1.5184136

[ssiguy]

?That describes how pathetic the BC road system is. Other provinces make pronouncements of huge road widenings, new roads, and freeways yet in BC putting up a fence is considered a major highway project worth noting.

[Dengler Avenue]

Well given that people have been asking for it for quite a while, it’s quite the news. I just hope it’s twinned before installing the fence though.

[MonctonRad]

Nope........

[Dengler Avenue]

The water’s so high. Would cantilever even work for 4-laning the highway?

[mintzilla]

Originally Posted by ssiguy

?That describes how pathetic the BC road system is. Other provinces make pronouncements of huge road widenings, new roads, and freeways yet in BC putting up a fence is considered a major highway project worth noting.

Would you say you are on the fence about this project?

[craner]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

Sudbury only has 130M people though, and the feds are still willing to chip in (though everyone knows it’s a vote-buying plot).

Had no idea Sudbury was that big.

[craner]

That stretch through 3-Valley Gap is just one of several sections of the TCH through BC that is so woefully inadequate it is unbelievable it exists in that state in 2019

[Dengler Avenue]

Originally Posted by craner

Had no idea Sudbury was that big.

My bad I meant 130K.

[craner]

^I know, just thought it was funny.

[nname]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

The water’s so high. Would cantilever even work for 4-laning the highway?

I think that part probably have to be tunneled, maybe a short one into the cliff, or a longer one at the other side of the lake. So that could easily a half-billion dollar project...

[Dengler Avenue]

So another project of the scale of KHC Phase 4 it is.