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That CC item 95 also includes Block 32 which is the block north of Block 16.
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Here's a Towers article, with some relevant passages:

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"...our sources indicate the towers imagined here [Block 16 and the Railyard] aren’t necessarily off the table simply because Austin’s buying — it’s just that the property owners involved are getting together to collectively negotiate a better deal with the city. These owners working together to hash out the terms of the city acquisition likely makes it easier for stakeholders to pursue the goals identified in the most recent iteration of Gensler’s master plan for the Convention Center’s expansion that would create a more “vertically integrated” district, including much more than convention space alone — retail, public amenities, transit connectivity, even towers on top.

This seems to imply — and our own sources imply the same — that the towers planned for these tracts could still rise in some form, they’d just be built above an expanded convention space."
https://austin.towers.net/city-plans...ter-expansion/

I think that leaves a lot of room for the Block 16 project -- and hell, a Railyards tower -- to continue. Honestly, I think that's what the city wants at this point.
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The City Council approved the expansion. Pool was the only one not to vote yes. She abstained because she didn't understand something about the financing. They also voted to begin negotiating for the purchase of Block 16 and Block 32.
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Great news for downtown, the city and local businesses.
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...and local musicians. Conventioneers/tourists are a significant factor in keeping the local music scene alive.
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Steady forward momentum: Council set to take up the TPID at its next meeting. The TPID (Tourism Public Improvement District) is one of the funding mechanisms for the CC expansion and part of Adler's Downtown Puzzle plan.

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Here's a Towers article, with some relevant passages:



https://austin.towers.net/city-plans...ter-expansion/

I think that leaves a lot of room for the Block 16 project -- and hell, a Railyards tower -- to continue. Honestly, I think that's what the city wants at this point.
If these towers are to be built anything close to what has been proposed, they will have to do so at the same time the CC is being expanded. I don't believe you can come back after the CC expansion has already begun to drill caissons deep enough to support these large towers over the new CC.
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If these towers are to be built anything close to what has been proposed, they will have to do so at the same time the CC is being expanded. I don't believe you can come back after the CC expansion has already begun to drill caissons deep enough to support these large towers over the new CC.
Correct. It is a P3 concept. The developer would build the building, which includes convention center facilities at the base and tower above. They would probably use a condominium regime to separate ownership of portions of the complex, not unlike Seaholm. Each block would be a separate condo.
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https://www.bizjournals.com/austin/n...-projects.html

Project Connect train lines, expanded Austin Convention Center expected to connect under downtown streets

Both plans call for development under Trinity Street

By Kathryn Hardison – Staff Writer, Austin Business Journal

Nov 20, 2020, 1:58pm EST

On paper, two of Austin's biggest long-term projects appear to collide.

Both the newly approved Project Connect transit plan and the westward expansion of the Austin Convention Center require underground development beneath Trinity Street between Cesar Chavez and Fourth streets, according to project documents.

But officials with both Capital Metropolitan Transportation Authority and the Austin Convention Center Department said a partnership is in the works to create a cohesive development that will benefit both projects.

Those efforts — which would result in two underground train stops downtown and an expanded convention center hub — would help transform downtown Austin in the coming years. They would also generate extensive construction throughout the area as crews dig beneath a swath of eastern downtown.

Officials at both agencies declined to disclose specific details about what this collaboration may look like, pointing out that the groups are still in the early planning stages. And the head of Capital Metro stressed that the development of the transit project is still far off.

Trisha Tatro, interim director of the Convention Center Department, said in a statement that the convention center expansion team is working with Capital Metro "on integrating the designs for both plans into one seamless development," and there might be some construction cost savings from the collaboration. Austin City Council last year endorsed a $1.1 billion plan to expand the convention center west of Trinity Street. The project is still years away, and department officials are working on purchasing agreements for the sites they will need to enlarge the facility.

"As the design phase of the Austin Convention Center expansion moves forward, we will continue this coordination," Tatro said.

Voters approved this month the $7.1 billion Project Connect plan — which includes more train lines for the city as well as a downtown transit tunnel — and a subsequent hike in property tax rates to help fund the construction.

The tunnel is planned between underground stops at Republic Square and the Austin Convention Center, connecting the far-reaching train lines planned in Project Connect.
The side of the tunnel near the convention center is where the two projects seems to clash because the master plan for that facility's expansion outlines that the project must have rights under Trinity Street between Cesar Chavez and Fourth streets for "contiguous below-grade development."

There's also a third piece to the puzzle. Manifold Real Estate wants to build a 47-story office tower with ground-floor retail at 320 E. Second St., which is on the north side of Second Street between San Jacinto Boulevard and Trinity Street. The planned tower would stand in the path of the convention center expansion.

Officials with Manifold could not be reached for comment by press time. Tyler Grooms, principal with the firm, previously declined to comment.

There is a possibility that the city and Manifold could work together on the tower. According to previous ABJ reporting, a partnership was being explored earlier this year for a "vertically integrated tower/convention center expansion."

Capital Metro President and CEO Randy Clarke said his team is working to integrate the Project Connect infrastructure into the convention center expansion, including "vertical development." Ideas are being considered about how a Project Connect concourse could be connected to that development, he said. That type of collaboration could lead to less parking in the area because of access to the rail stations.
But at the same time, Clarke said the groups are working to make it possible for the convention center expansion to include what is referenced in the master plan as a "contiguous exhibit hall" below Trinity Street, while also effectively getting people in and out of the station.

"The volume of people that will be coming in and out of convention center and the linkage between all the lines — it is incredibly important," Clarke said. "It will certainly feed all the hotels and bars and restaurants there and the innovation district."

The downtown station is envisioned as a multi-level station that many people can access around the convention center. The Blue and Gold train lines would run underground, while the existing Red Line and a potential future Green Line could service the station above ground.

Clarke said the project teams still have to go through the design process, but the idea is to create "the largest underground footprint" possible in the downtown area.

That means the station needs to run as far south as possible for people on Cesar Chavez Street to have access, perhaps even pulling in people from the Rainey Street area, which is a short walk away.

Clarke called the station planned at Republic Square the "Grand Central Station" of Project Connect — because of its expected traffic — while the downtown station under the convention center could be, in turn, compared to New York City's other large train hub, Penn Station.

The Blue Line and Orange Line of the light rail system are both planned to have stops at Republic Square.

"These are two incredibly large transportation stations that will very, very much connect the whole city and region together," Clarke said.

Project Connect is a series of transit projects scheduled over the next several years in Austin. Preliminary engineering, design and procurement work for the Orange and Blue lines would take about three or four years after Project Connect is funded. It would take another four or five years to construct and commission the lines.


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Man, I'm excited about the possibility of these 3 projects all being integrated. It could turn out really cool. I hope they actually put a lot of CREATIVITY into the design of these stations so that they're actually interesting/iconic-looking.

The existence of the Republic Square Park station really increases the importance of that area. And increases the likelihood of that area becoming a big central CLUSTER. I would hope that The Republic tweaks their design to incorporate it somehow. And, my god, that post office site... it's going to be the most prized real estate in the city, if it's not already.
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Man, I'm excited about the possibility of these 3 projects all being integrated. It could turn out really cool. I hope they actually put a lot of CREATIVITY into the design of these stations so that they're actually interesting/iconic-looking.

The existence of the Republic Square Park station really increases the importance of that area. And increases the likelihood of that area becoming a big central CLUSTER. I would hope that The Republic tweaks their design to incorporate it somehow. And, my god, that post office site... it's going to be the most prized real estate in the city, if it's not already.
It could also save a lot of money and be a way to use hotel tax bonds to on mass transit as long as some asshole lawyer doesn't sue to fuck that up. (cough Fred lewis cough).
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Man, I'm excited about the possibility of these 3 projects all being integrated. It could turn out really cool. I hope they actually put a lot of CREATIVITY into the design of these stations so that they're actually interesting/iconic-looking.

The existence of the Republic Square Park station really increases the importance of that area. And increases the likelihood of that area becoming a big central CLUSTER. I would hope that The Republic tweaks their design to incorporate it somehow. And, my god, that post office site... it's going to be the most prized real estate in the city, if it's not already.
Hoping and dreaming the post office site becomes our absolute tallest.

and yes, really hoping these stations are more than guitar themed subterranean wonderlands.
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Hoping and dreaming the post office site becomes our absolute tallest.

and yes, really hoping these stations are more than guitar themed subterranean wonderlands.
https://youtu.be/haTivPKz2aM skip to 0:35
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Interesting little nugget: per the Monitor, Jimmy Flannigan's new gig is as President of of Austin Convention Enterprises (ACE) which manages the Hilton Austin on behalf of the city.

The ACE folks have a lot of say in how the Convention Center does its work, as well, and he'll be situated to help with the expansion.

I'm usually skeptical of moves like this, but he knows his stuff and is a great advocate for the hospitality community.

https://www.austinmonitor.com/storie...shed-business/
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City pulls plug on westward expansion for Austin Convention Center:
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Holy crap! Gotta find a way past the paywall to read the thing in full.
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Holy crap! Gotta find a way past the paywall to read the thing in full.
Basically, they couldn't come to terms on one of the land purchases. They are re-evaluating how to expand. It's possible that they may expand upward on the current footprint.
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“Austin Convention Center officials will no longer seek to expand the facility westward after negotiations to buy adjacent property reached an impasse.

The asking price for the property west of the center was too steep for the city to stomach and developers began questioning whether they would be able to meet expansion expectations by acquiring that property.”
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Basically, they couldn't come to terms on one of the land purchases. They are re-evaluating how to expand. It's possible that they may expand upward on the current footprint.
Man. What a tragedy. Expanding upwards means completely rebuilding the building. Which means us being without a CC for 3-4 years. Gaaaaaaaah.

On the other hand . . . it's game on for all the parcels that were in question. Which includes BOTH Railyard half-blocks, and that PF Changs project.
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