Metro Phoenix Transit/Transportation Developments - Page 376

exit2lef · #**7501** Posted **Aug 28, 2020, 2:45 PM**

If you want to see the exact route, these roll plots are a big PDF, but they provide a lot of detail:

https://www.valleymetro.org/sites/de...g_combined.pdf

According to this fact sheet, the first phase of construction is utility relocation at various sites on Dunlap and 25th Avenue:

https://www.valleymetro.org/sites/de...et_q3_2020.pdf

biggus diggus · #**7502** Posted **Aug 28, 2020, 3:57 PM**

Thanks for the illustrations, it looks like the exact setup at Central and Camelback.

exit2lef · #**7503** Posted **Aug 28, 2020, 11:41 PM**

More info copied-and-pasted from a Valley Metro construction update email I received today:

CONSTRUCTION UPDATE WEEK OF August 31, 2020
Construction has begun: Northwest Extension Phase II light rail project construction began on Monday, Aug. 24. The initial work is exclusively third party utility construction.
Dunlap Avenue between C Street and 24th avenues (north side): Salt River Project will be starting the relocation process for underground utility lines on Dunlap Avenue between C Street and 24th avenues. Westbound Dunlap Avenue will have one lane restricted daily. Traffic restrictions will be in place 8:30 a.m. to 4:00 p.m., Aug. 24 through late Sept.
Visit valleymetro.org/northwest2 to view the latest updates and learn more about the project.

Other Area Projects
The Arizona Department of Transportation is constructing improvements to the cross street drainage system along the I-17 frontage road between Greenway Road and Dunlap Avenue in Phoenix. The purpose of the project is to improve the drainage facilities that remove storm runoff from the Greenway, Thunderbird, Cactus and Peoria cross streets, helping to reduce the potential for flooding at the I-17 overpasses. This work will close portions of the I-17 south- or northbound frontage roads through 2020 and into 2021.

exit2lef · #**7504** Posted **Sep 8, 2020, 3:33 PM**

A good overview of light rail expansion currently underway.

Kudos to Jessica Boehm for noting that as drastic as a 50% ridership drop may sound, it’s much smaller than what’s been seen on many other systems like the NYC subway and BART.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...es/5656836002/

exit2lef · #**7505** Posted **Oct 2, 2020, 4:54 PM**

Valley Metro orders more new rail cars. With this latest order, the total fleet size will increase to about 75 cars. It started with 50 back in 2008.

https://www.railwayage.com/passenger...wo-extensions/

CrestedSaguaro · #**7506** Posted **Oct 2, 2020, 7:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by exit2lef

Valley Metro orders more new rail cars. With this latest order, the total fleet size will increase to about 75 cars. It started with 50 back in 2008.

https://www.railwayage.com/passenger...wo-extensions/

Question on the station that will be near Souper Salad. Are thy going to remove the mid-frontage road exit/entrance in front of Souper Salad for the station?

CrestedSaguaro · #**7507** Posted **Oct 2, 2020, 7:17 PM**

Scooter pilot coming back to downtown for another 6 months.

https://patch.com/arizona/phoenix/e-...wntown-phoenix

exit2lef · #**7508** Posted **Oct 2, 2020, 7:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by CrestedSaguaro

Question on the station that will be near Souper Salad. Are thy going to remove the mid-frontage road exit/entrance in front of Souper Salad for the station?

Not to my knowledge. I think it's far enough north of where the track will go to avoid a conflict.

N830MH · #**7509** Posted **Oct 3, 2020, 6:49 AM**

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Originally Posted by exit2lef

Valley Metro orders more new rail cars. With this latest order, the total fleet size will increase to about 75 cars. It started with 50 back in 2008.

https://www.railwayage.com/passenger...wo-extensions/

That's good to hear! I really hope they extending more light rail service. Right now, they haven't receive approved I-10 West and State Capitol extension yet.

Obadno · #**7510** Posted **Oct 4, 2020, 9:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by CrestedSaguaro

Scooter pilot coming back to downtown for another 6 months.

https://patch.com/arizona/phoenix/e-...wntown-phoenix

Nice! Hope they expand them up to midtown

ASU Diablo · #**7511** Posted **Oct 5, 2020, 7:00 PM**

Random question. Did Valley Metro ever share a rendering of the proposed downtown hub at Cityscape?

Obadno · #**7512** Posted **Oct 5, 2020, 9:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by ASU Diablo

Random question. Did Valley Metro ever share a rendering of the proposed downtown hub at Cityscape?

I don’t think there was any design, the cityscape plaza itself will “act” as the place where you switch between north/south and East/west lines

muertecaza · #**7513** Posted **Oct 5, 2020, 10:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by ASU Diablo

Random question. Did Valley Metro ever share a rendering of the proposed downtown hub at Cityscape?

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Originally Posted by Obadno

I don’t think there was any design, the cityscape plaza itself will “act” as the place where you switch between north/south and East/west lines

Yeah, the best I've seen to give a sense of the plan is this flyover video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JYa...ature=youtu.be

As far as I can tell there isn't much additional infrastructure planned to create the "hub" other than three new stations surrounding CityScape.

ASU Diablo · #**7514** Posted **Oct 5, 2020, 11:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by muertecaza

Yeah, the best I've seen to give a sense of the plan is this flyover video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JYa...ature=youtu.be

As far as I can tell there isn't much additional infrastructure planned to create the "hub" other than three new stations surrounding CityScape.

This is cool. Thanks for sharing.

N830MH · #**7515** Posted **Oct 6, 2020, 4:54 AM**

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Originally Posted by muertecaza

Yeah, the best I've seen to give a sense of the plan is this flyover video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JYa...ature=youtu.be

As far as I can tell there isn't much additional infrastructure planned to create the "hub" other than three new stations surrounding CityScape.

Eh, not bad at all. It's perfect. Thanks for sharing this. It's looking good.

exit2lef · #**7516** Posted **Oct 14, 2020, 5:27 PM**

The Van Buren bike lanes project had been cancelled in favor of repaving and re-striping the street as-is. Apparently, neighborhood opposition was strong enough to persuade the city to decline the federal funds involved.

https://www.phoenix.gov/streetssite/...et%20Final.pdf

biggus diggus · #**7517** Posted **Oct 14, 2020, 5:31 PM**

That's very disappointing to me, I had put that project in the back of my mind thinking it was a done deal. It was going to help revitalize VB.

Prestige Worldwide · #**7518** Posted **Oct 14, 2020, 5:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by exit2lef

The Van Buren bike lanes project had been cancelled in favor of repaving and re-striping the street as-is. Apparently, neighborhood opposition was strong enough to persuade the city to decline the federal funds involved.

https://www.phoenix.gov/streetssite/...et%20Final.pdf

This was coming for awhile. Council approved a fluffy ambitious bike master plan, but can't handle the fire when it comes time to implement, especially when vehicle travel lanes are removed. This is why 3rd St has moved at a glacial pace. I think that one will ultimately happen (because it should have decent usage), but the rest won't. The bike master plan isn't worth the paper it's written on. Interests of property owners, auto-oriented businesses and the driving public will continue to steamroll active transportation improvements if they are in conflict.

biggus diggus · #**7519** Posted **Oct 14, 2020, 5:48 PM**

I own a fair amount in Garfield and I was at two meetings in support of the project, must have been 2017 (?). Honestly thought it was a done deal, there were a few guys opposed to this, though. Someone from Chicanos Por La Causa was there and a couple of developers were there in opposition. Nothing too wild, though.

This is exactly why I continually tell you guys it's not confirmed until you see construction happening. I know it upsets people when I do that, but this is why. You get excited about something and then the disappointment sucks the life out of you. Better to tell yourself "it might happen" and then if it does you can feel really happy.

Prestige Worldwide · #**7520** Posted **Oct 14, 2020, 5:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by biggus diggus

I own a fair amount in Garfield and I was at two meetings in support of the project, must have been 2017 (?). Honestly thought it was a done deal, there were a few guys opposed to this, though. Someone from Chicanos Por La Causa was there and a couple of developers were there in opposition. Nothing too wild, though.

This is exactly why I continually tell you guys it's not confirmed until you see construction happening. I know it upsets people when I do that, but this is why. You get excited about something and then the disappointment sucks the life out of you. Better to tell yourself "it might happen" and then if it does you can feel really happy.

You're absolutely right. Believe it when you see it. The Council deserves a lot of criticism here. They touted the plan as a done deal (I would presume it had community input), and then hid behind these new input mechanisms to walk it back (Osborn and Missouri have also been shelved). I think the composition of the Council over the last 3-4 years has also led to less enthusiasm for active transportation. The Mayor is really the only one who cares. The rest of them are pretty soft.