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CityBoyDoug · #**29661** Posted **Jul 12, 2015, 12:25 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Man Leaps From 21st floor of City Hall.

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"Michael Roomanoff, who was acquitted in Los Angeles three years ago on chargers of being a 'Hollywood Ponzi', today leaped to his death from the 21st floor of the city hall.
Roomanoff left a note directing that his debts be paid off by a $30,000 policy. Police had to retrieve the body from the roof by means of ropes."

"The body struck the tile on the roof about three stories from the ground."
12/14/1934

-note the crushed tiles...and then he rolled to the edge.

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Here is your previous post on the man who leaped from City Hall....Michael Roomanoff...dreadful!

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=15881

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GatoVerde · #**29662** Posted **Jul 12, 2015, 4:19 AM**

I went to a party at this site a couple of years ago. The occupants told me it had been a funeral home.

Cheers,
Jack[/QUOTE]

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

When I first glanced at that photograph I thought it was from Blade Runner. (squint & you'll see what I mean)

I came across this interesting building quite by accident the other day.

It reminds me a bit of the vintage buildings at Venice Beach, but this building is located at 2517 Pasadena Avenue in Lincoln Heights.

detail / gsv

view showing the side of the building

gsv

I haven't found a build date yet (it's oddly missing from the real estate sites I looked at),

but I found this interior photo of what looks like a hallway.

http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/16072...os-Angeles-CA/

*I just realized it's the same space as the photo below. (so no, it isn't a hallway)

Several sites mention 30 ft. wood beamed ceilings (see below)

https://foursquare.com/v/reincarnati...b0b13f4c7786ba

One of the real estate sites had this interior photograph. I'm having a hard time picturing this layout in this building. Did the real estate site make a mistake?

http://www.loopnet.com/Property-Reco...031/XKT1Vzz5Q/

click the link to check it out.

I re-checked the aerial to see if there was any circular aspects to the design.

google_earth

Nope..

ethereal_reality · #**29663** Posted **Jul 12, 2015, 4:46 AM**

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Originally Posted by Ed Workman

It DID snow in So CA in 1949.

The 1949 Los Angeles Snow Storm.

Daily News

http://www.ebay.com/itm/L-A-DAILY-NE...item4d32e8b1eb

note that the Black Dahlia is still in the news two years later.

Who is Jack Sands?

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ethereal_reality · #**29664** Posted **Jul 12, 2015, 5:15 AM**

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Originally Posted by mrfredmertz

Wynn Murray is the blonde woman just to our left of Walter Huston.

Winifred Murray

http://ifyoucanplayscranton.blogspot...ed-murray.html

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Otis Criblecoblis · #**29665** Posted **Jul 12, 2015, 6:50 AM**

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Originally Posted by Noircitydame

LAT 8-1-44

Edwin Schallert is the father of actor William Schallert, a familiar face on television whom you may recall as Patty Duke's father, and before that Dobie Gillis' homeroom teacher. Father Edwin was the longtime drama critic of the LA Times.

Otis Criblecoblis · #**29666** Posted **Jul 12, 2015, 6:56 AM**

mrfredmertz, thank you for identifying William Gaxton! That face was so familiar, but I couldn't quite connect it with the name, because I am only really familiar with him in his silent-film days. It was driving me nuts!

Beaudry · #**29667** Posted **Jul 12, 2015, 7:30 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I came across this interesting building quite by accident the other day.

gsv

It reminds me a bit of the vintage buildings at Venice Beach, but this building is located at 2517 Pasadena Avenue in Lincoln Heights.

No build date on Zimas, but I think it's pre-1905 since there's no record of new construction at LADBS there after. It looks pretty much the same in 1920 and 1951:

It had been Woodsmen of the World lodge rooms, until (from what I can tell) Los Angeles Undertaking, Inc. moves in in the early '20s. They do some major work in 1933, including, according to permits, "Install stone & concrete at entrance" so I'm guessing that's when the Gothic tracery went in.

Interestingly, in 1926 a permit is granted for 2517, all the way to the corner to 2525, 23,000sf, $125,000, John Paxton Perrine-designed theater for West Coast Theaters, Inc. Which is apparently never built.

It's Los Angeles Undertaking from the early '20s until, at some point between '41 and '43, it becomes part of the Pierce Brothers chain, and remains so until the early '60s from what I can tell, and then it's a number of outfits, e.g. Funeral Consultants of America, and, at least since the early '90s, the A. Chau Funeral Home. It's de-mortuaried about ten years ago, I think

Beaudry · #**29668** Posted **Jul 12, 2015, 8:50 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

"1924 Original LOS ANGELES Photo WEST ADAMS STREET Palm Trees California."

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1924-Origina...item35ed552aaf

Does anyone recognize this apartment building?

The Holton Arms! Which JScott immediately pointed out naturally. I've got a little bit more about the Holton Arms, if you'll indulge me...

First off, a couple images that I think are new to the USCDL. Whittingtons:

USCDL

She's 1916, her architect, J F Kavanaugh.

southwest contractor, 1916

Flash-forward to January, 1971. The Holton Arms is owned by the Orthopedic Hospital behind it. Some notes from Cleveland Wrecking:

ladbs

ethereal_reality · #**29669** Posted **Jul 12, 2015, 3:04 PM**

Beaudry, thanks for the information on 2517 Pasadena Ave.
"it's been de-mortuaried about ten years ago." lol

and for the additional information and photographs of the Holton Arms.

tovangar2 · #**29670** Posted **Jul 12, 2015, 3:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by Beaudry

It had been Woodsmen of the World lodge rooms, until (from what I can tell) Los Angeles Undertaking, Inc. moves in in the early '20s. They do some major work in 1933, including, according to permits, "Install stone & concrete at entrance" so I'm guessing that's when the Gothic tracery went in.

Interestingly, in 1926 a permit is granted for 2517, all the way to the corner to 2525, 23,000sf, $125,000, John Paxton Perrine-designed theater for West Coast Theaters, Inc. Which is apparently never built.

Thank you Beaudry. Here's part of that 2 January 1926 building permit that was never used:

It had me confused as the building looks like it could have been a theater, with the round room being the "lobby" and the space with the 30' ceilings the "auditorium" (with room for a balcony).

The timber-work hints at the long-vanished ceiling:

loopnet

Viewed from the back, one sees modern(?) windows:

gsv

(Terrific street lamps in that part of town. They go on for blocks and are in pretty good nick.)

That was a Richfield station to the east of the Woodmen of the World building:

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Originally Posted by Beaudry

Some history on Woodmen of the World, AKA W.O.W., is here and here.

Members of the Pasadena W.O.W. lodge show off traditional Woodmen regalia (1897):

lapl

Thank you e_r for the very interesting find. I had a lot of fun trolling through the seven pages of permits for that corner and reading up on W.O.W..

CityBoyDoug · #**29671** Posted **Jul 12, 2015, 5:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by tovangar2

Thank you Beaudry. Here's part of that 2 January 1926 building permit that was never used:

Members of the Pasadena W.O.W. lodge show off traditional Woodmen regalia:

lapl

Thank you e_r for the very interesting find. I had a lot of fun trolling through the seven pages of permits for that corner and reading up on W.O.W..

The W.O.W. had meetings for kids at my grade school in the 1950s. I went to a meeting and joined the ''fraternal'' club. You were required to buy a ''W.O.W. life insurance policy'' to be a member. I bought the policy, which is kind of ridiculous for an eleven year old kid! I went to a few corny ''woodsy'' meetings and finally dropped out. I figured it was just a scheme to sell life insurance. I had the policy for a few years until it finally expired due to my non-payment. I think the policy was $8 a year.

Even today in 2015 Ripoff Report has a large file on this insurance company:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Woodme...policie-154740

tovangar2 · #**29672** Posted **Jul 13, 2015, 12:46 AM**

Remember the Sunset Pacific Motel at Sunset and Bates?

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal

Martin Pal did a terrific post about its history and its temporary incarnation as a work of art:

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Originally Posted by tovangar2

"Projection" sprayed limewash (2015) Vincent Lamouroux

Well, in current photographs, the palms look like they're in recovery
and coming along just fine
(the motel itself is still bright white):

IAmNotAStalker (<--- more pix at the link)

Martin Pal · #**29673** Posted **Jul 13, 2015, 12:56 AM**

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Originally Posted by tovangar2

Well, in current photographs, the palms look like they're in recovery
and coming along just fine
(the motel itself is still bright white):

IAmNotAStalker (<--- more pix at the link)

Thanks for that update! I was near there a couple weeks ago (at the Vista Theatre)
and wanted to walk a few blocks over there to see it, but my friend did not.

Martin Pal · #**29674** Posted **Jul 13, 2015, 1:11 AM**

NoirCityDame, you had mentioned that your father signed up for the Navy in WWII out of Fairfax High School
(at 17!) and I wondered if you have any Los Angeles related photos of him you could share with us? Did he ever
visit the Hollywood Canteen or any U.S.O.'s in L.A.? I hope you don't mind the query.

Also, you have found alot of good newspaper items to add to many posts and I wondered if you
have, or can find anything about this (below) that I inquired about once? Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal

Speaking of Union Station, a couple months ago when I was looking up information about the First Interstate Bank
building fire in 1988, I found this LINK which had this intriguing item:

"A Yuletide Disaster at Union Station" -- The fire that took place at Union Station on December 12, 1942, may not
have caused the same sort of damage the First Interstate blaze did, but it must have put a damper on Downtown's
Christmas spirits. 7000 bags of mail -- more than 35 tons -- went up in smoke that day when a carelessly tossed
cigarette set fire to a canvas tent under which they were being stored. Both incoming and outgoing mail was included.
Sleds, dolls, baby buggies, boxes of candy, clothing and jewelry were found when fire crews sorted through the packages
looking for any lingering embers.

I haven't had any luck finding anything else about this occurrence (especially photos) which must have been covered
in the newspapers. I had never heard about a fire at Union Station before, has anyone else?

Again, thanks NoirCityDame for the post with info about the newspaper headlines and
clarification about dates for The Pilgrimage Play.

As an aside, I noticed in the ad you posted that "The Hollywood Pilgrimage Bowl" has it's address as
2580 N. Highland Ave. and, I'm assuming, when the freeway was built, the address changed to
2580 Cahuenga Blvd E. as the Ford Amphitheatre's now addressed.
(Hollywood Bowl is still 2301 N. Highland Ave.)

Some Pilgrimage Theatre photos and related info:

Here's a 1931 photo showing the beginnings of construction for the Pilgrimage Play Theatre
after the previous structure built in 1920 had been burned in a brush fire in October, 1929.

LAPL Image Archive

Front entrance to the Pilgrimage Theatre in Hollywood, ca. 1931.

CSL Image Archive

Postcard view of the Pilgrimage Play Theatre seating and stage, ca. 1931.

LAPL Image Archive

Here's a daytime photo of the way the Pilgrimage Play Theatre and the Hollywood Bowl looked during 1944.

CSL Image Archive

Additional information says:
--During WWII the Pilgrimage Play Theatre was deeded to Los Angeles County and converted into dormitories for servicemen. (It was?)
--In 1942, Hollywood Bowl audiences were limited to 5,000 due to war-related safety concerns.

Table Magazine: L.A. Observatory

One or both of these may have been posted before.

Spotlights abound at a War Bonds event at the Hollywood Bowl.
On June 14th, 1944, radio actors and actresses performed at the
Hollywood Bowl during a war bond program. CBS broadcast the
event live.

LAPL Image Archive

By the way, the Pilgrimage Play Theatre, now called the John Anson Ford Amphitheatre since 1976, is
closed this summer.

From an L.A. Times article:

The rumble of construction machinery and the thwack of carpentry will be the summer sounds for
2015 at the 1,196-seat county-owned outdoor John Anson Ford Amphitheatre, which is closing for
at least a year and a half for a [near] $20-million renovation project. While the makeover is underway,
the dancers and musicians who usually hold sway at the theater will fan out to other, as yet undetermined
venues around Los Angeles County.

ethereal_reality · #**29675** Posted **Jul 13, 2015, 2:39 AM**

Very interesting post Martin.

Have we seen this on NLA before?

found in an old file of mine.

The so-called 'slums, blight - crowded' were to be replaced by this $200,000 apartment complex. (what is that in today's money CityBoyDoug?)

1950

http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...olNumber=34631

"Eileen O. Laverty shows model of $200,000 apartment complex to be built on Bunker Hill,
called one of the greatest developments in downtown Los Angeles." (unrealized)

I believe it says 'coliseum on the white round building. (*actually it says Auditorium)
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ethereal_reality · #**29676** Posted **Jul 13, 2015, 3:18 AM**

"1924 Original PASADENA Photo HOUSE on SO. EL MOLINA & ALPINE ST. California."

reverse

I drove the google-mobile in the vicinity and located the house at 979 S. El Molino.

gsv

..and it's a Greene & Greene!

"Located in Pasadena's Madison Heights neighborhood, this historic Greene & Greene Craftsman was commissioned by Dr. Samuel Crow in 1909. The house was subsequently purchased by Edward Crocker, who was responsible for doubling the size of the property by purchasing land to the west of the residence and enhancing it with extensive gardens and out buildings designed by Henry Greene. Built on a U-shaped plan with a center courtyard, the 3,168 square-foot bungalow features four bedrooms, three baths, formal living and dining rooms, two fireplaces, a sunroom with stained glass skylights, wood-paneled halls, a separate guest cottage, swimming pool, and detached garage with caretaker's quarters."

The property has been owned by the same family since 1958!
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the garage, mentioned above, is very large.

here it is

redfin

aerial

I think this must be the garage (red arrow)
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979 S. El Molino's neighbor is an attractive Craftsman as well (below, on the left)

gsv

Perhaps it's a Greene & Greene as well.
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Thanks for the additional information on 2517 Pasadena Ave. tovanger2. I tried to locate a photograph of the 'Woodmen' without success.
I noticed the street lamps too. I'm glad you mentioned them.

ethereal_reality · #**29677** Posted **Jul 13, 2015, 3:51 AM**

Early entrances to the Hollywood Bowl (no specific dates

, sorry)

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http://www.californiarestorationandw...ollywood-bowl/

...and finally,

the model for the Streamline Modern/Art Deco entrance designed by George Stanley (commissioned by the WPA)

http://artdecosociety.squarespace.com/
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CityBoyDoug, I somehow missed your earlier post about the contortionist model working out of 2517 Pasadena Avenue.
The building seems to attract 'bohemians' as of late.