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Old Posted May 10, 2022, 3:52 PM
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That is alarming if the league seriously offered the players a ten year deal with no salary increases at all. In practice, that means a fairly significant pay cut when you consider that inflation over the next few years will chip away at the buying power of every dollar that people make.
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That is alarming if the league seriously offered the players a ten year deal with no salary increases at all. In practice, that means a fairly significant pay cut when you consider that inflation over the next few years will chip away at the buying power of every dollar that people make.
Yeah I don't know why they can't be like other major sports leagues and just say 39 to 45 % of league revenues will go to players salaries that way you have cost certainty.
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Old Posted May 14, 2022, 11:10 PM
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3downnation reporting the CFLPA is now prepared to strike after failing to agree to the CFLs latest offer which was a 7 year deal with 24 million in more money for players over the life of the agreement and a seat at the table of the CFL ventures league growth arm and 25 % cut of all future growth in league revenue.
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Old Posted May 14, 2022, 11:14 PM
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CFL commissioner Randy Ambrosie publicly shares details of league’s CBA offer to players, as two sides fail to come to agreement before deadline
By 3Down Staff -May 14, 2022
CFL commissioner Randy Ambrosie has shared the details of the league’s latest collective bargaining proposal to the Canadian Football League Players’ Association after the two sides failed to reach an agreement on Saturday afternoon.

According to TSN’s Farhan Lalji: “The CFL & CFLPAhave NOT been able to come to a deal ahead of the expiration of the CBA tonight. They are still far apart on a number of key issues. The PA is informing its team reps on what their plans are. The league plans to release its latest proposal shortly.”

Commissioner Randy Ambrosie released the following statement on the league’s website.

“CFL Fans:

We know you’re looking forward to a CFL season that starts on time and includes a full schedule of games. To get there, we need a new collective agreement with our players, one that creates a new and positive partnership. Today we presented an offer to the CFLPA that will meet this goal. We have communicated this offer directly to players this afternoon. We want to share this information with you, as well.”

The CFL and the CFLPA have been in ongoing negotiations this afternoon, with the current collective bargaining agreement set to expire at midnight tonight — Saturday, May 15. Training camps are scheduled to open around the league tomorrow.

Ambrosie shared a letter sent to CFL players, highlighting some of the terms laid out in the league’s latest offer to the union.

“This document summarizes the CFL’s offer that was presented to the union today, for your consideration.

It’s designed to build a true partnership with you, our talented, hard-working, community-minded CFL players.

It increases total player compensation by more than $24 million over the term of the agreement – plus an opportunity to share in revenue increases as we successfully work together to grow the league.

It protects jobs for Canadian players, the bedrock of the CFL.

It offers partially guaranteed contracts, for the first time in our league’s history.

It recognizes the contribution of veteran Americans, with a new opportunity to extend their careers with their team, without restricting free agency in any way.

It includes two increases in the league’s minimum salary.

It provides certainty and stability, with a 7-year-term.

Here are the details:
• $18.9 million in total guaranteed increases to the salary cap league-wide.

• $5.94 million in guaranteed compensation paid for community outreach and promotional appearances league-wide.

• An opportunity for twenty-five percent of all revenue growth over an agreed upon the threshold, to be added to the salary cap starting in 2023.

• Clubs would be permitted to re-sign their veterans to partially guaranteed contracts, a first for the CFL.

• A club would be allowed to choose one American player (non-quarterback), who has been in the league for at least four years or has played with the same team for at least three years, who would be considered a Nationalized American.

• This one Nationalized American would count as a National on the roster. He would join 20 or 21 Canadians who also count as Nationals on the roster.

• Each roster would have a minimum of seven National starters. This would include at least six Canadian players. The seventh starter could be either the Nationalized American or an additional Canadian.

• The roster would also include three quarterbacks of any nationality, 19 Americans and up to two Global players.

• A starting Canadian quarterback would count as a National (Canadian).

• These roster changes would kick in as of 2023.

• The minimum salary would increase to $70,000 in 2023 and $75,000 in 2027.

• An updated Code of Conduct that applies to all members of the CFL Community, including fans, instead of just players.

• A seat for your union on the Board of CFL Ventures, the commercial arm of the league, will allow us to work together on marketing our league and building our business.

An agreement based on this offer helps everyone across the CFL. Fans can expect improved roster continuity, something that has been a top priority for them for years. Our clubs will be able to consistently market their star players, with more confidence they could re-sign.

But this is about you and your career, first and foremost. That’s why this offer protects roster spots for our great Canadian players who mean so much to the CFL, it celebrates the veteran American players who have built careers here, and it includes increases for all players, including players paid the league minimum.

This is a win-win offer. It creates a stronger partnership, so we can work together to further improve our game and build our business. And it comes at a critical time. Our league, our clubs, and especially our players have been through so much during the pandemic. We turned the corner in 2021, working together to get back on the field. Now we have an opportunity to accelerate towards a brighter future.

Let’s seize that opportunity, together.

Commissioner Randy Ambrosie”

While lacking any annual details, the offer appears to be a significant improvement over previous proposals by the league. Prior offers had been met by concern and anger from the players, with the CFL proposing, among other things, a ten-year agreement without salary cap increases and the elimination of the Canadian starting ratio.

However, the two sides remain far apart on a number of issues after the league drug its heels in negotiations in order to create the pressure of a deadline.

Last week, CFLPA membership voted 95 percent in favour of giving the union permission to initiate a work stoppage. That ballot was part of the standard process of collective bargaining, but a strike now seems imminent with six hours to go until the deadline.
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Old Posted May 14, 2022, 11:15 PM
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CFLPA preparing to strike after CFL walks away from bargaining table on eve of CBA expiration
By 3Down Staff -May 14, 2022
The Canadian Football League Players’ Association is preparing to strike after the CFL walked away from the bargaining table ahead of the expiration of the collective bargaining agreement at midnight tonight.

In a PR move, CFL commissioner Randy Ambrosie’s publicly shared the details of the league’s latest collective bargaining proposal to the players, hoping to turn public opinion against the players after the two sides failed to reach an agreement during hours of negotiations on Saturday.

While the terms of that deal appear much improved on paper, the union still has serious concerns remaining and the league is no longer willing to negotiate.

According to TSN’s Farhan Lalji: “The CFLPA is preparing to strike & they are not recommending this deal to membership. That doesn’t mean they have ‘called for a strike’ yet. Also it looks like the CFL will be able to force a vote on this ‘final’ offer in most provinces.

The league walked away from the bargaining table today & said they’re no longer willing to negotiate. While on the surface the $18.9 million over the course of the deal looks good, the CFLPA has serious concerns with how those numbers are being calculated & believe the net increase will be much lower.

There are also concerns that the revenue sharing formula excludes things like the Grey Cup & concessions & will be unaudited. Also big concerns around the return of padded practices with no additional safety protections.”

The CFL and CFLPA have been involved in heated negotiations since Wednesday when the league tabled a new proposed collective bargaining agreement. That offer was not yet to the players’ satisfaction, with a directive sent to members to report to training camp on time in order to place the union in a legal strike position.

Following two additional days of negotiations, the bargaining teams worked into the night Friday as part of a monster 16-hour negotiation session but did not emerge with an agreement in hand. The two sides met again on Saturday afternoon for a previously unscheduled negotiation session, attempting to hammer out a deal before the deadline.

That effort was unsuccessful, with the league now attempting to call the players’ bluff on strike action.

In a statement to TSN’s Dave Naylor, a league spokesperson said “We made a comprehensive offer to the union today. Unfortunately that was rejected. There are no further talks scheduled at this time.”

Prior offers from the league have been met by concern and anger from the players, with the CFL proposing, among other things, a ten-year agreement without salary cap increases and the elimination of the Canadian starting ratio.

Last week, CFLPA membership voted 95 percent in favour of giving the union permission to initiate a work stoppage. That ballot was part of the standard process of collective bargaining but now appears to be coming to fruition for the first time since 1974.
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Old Posted May 15, 2022, 2:08 AM
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I think they are close there might be a short 5 or 10 day strike but seems revenue sharing padded practices coming back and comp for injured players are the main things the PA wants more progress on.
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Bombers PA rep Adam Bighill says the Bombers players plan to picket IG field soon and is inviting fans to join them.
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Old Posted May 19, 2022, 1:16 AM
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Reports coming out league and CFLPA are getting close to a new agreement
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Old Posted May 19, 2022, 2:04 AM
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Tentative 7-year deal in place. Surprised the players would agree to that length of contract. There must have been some concessions on the part of the owners. Maybe revenue sharing...opening the books?
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Old Posted May 19, 2022, 2:15 AM
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Naylor and TSN saying it provides longer injury rehab compensation after retirement and CFLPA will get annual minimum salary increases and a share of all revenue. I think this is good news as the players had legitimate things to get settled with the league and hopefully it leads to players staying with teams for a longer time so they can be marketed in their communities.
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Old Posted May 19, 2022, 2:41 AM
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Now let's bring on the Bomber dynasty!
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Old Posted May 19, 2022, 1:13 PM
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Tentative 7-year deal in place. Surprised the players would agree to that length of contract. There must have been some concessions on the part of the owners. Maybe revenue sharing...opening the books?
Yup, both are happening as your last sentence states.
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Old Posted May 20, 2022, 7:53 PM
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Old Posted May 23, 2022, 9:14 PM
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Generally good, I like the “EE” back on the helmets.
A few nitpick items:
- Change the white numerals on the green jersey to yellow. This would be more in keeping with Edmonton football history and stays away from Green Bay territory.
- Yellow stripes on white sleeve doesn’t work as there is not enough contrast. Yellow stripes need to be bordered with green.
- The striping on the helmet (& I’m assuming pants) should be reversed to white within green. As it is the white is next to yellow and we get the lack of color contrast issue.
- I wish the Elks would go with predominately green pants on the road (white) jersey. The yellow pants with the home (green) jersey look great IMO. But yellow pants with white tops doesn’t look good to me. Hamilton has seemed to move beyond this for the most part which is a good thing.

That’s it, over all I think it’s an improvement over last season’s unis.
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CFL Players’ Association votes to reject tentative CBA: report

The CFL Players’ Association has voted down the tentative collective bargaining agreement that was agreed upon by the league and union last week, according to TSN’s Dave Naylor.

According to sources, the tentative @CFL CBA has been voted-down by the membership. This, despite being approved by the bargaining committee and recommended by team player reps. It has been defeated. There is no CBA. #CFLPA #CFL

CFL players went on strike following the expiration of the previous CBA on Saturday, May 14, marking the first work stoppage in the CFL since 1974. They returned to work on Thursday, May 19 after a tentative agreement was made late the previous evening.

Though the tentative CBA was not posted publicly in its entirety, it reportedly included a substantial revenue sharing model between the league and the union, a change to the ratio allowing for up to three veteran Americans to rotate with Canadian starters, the reintroduction of padded practices, and the option for veterans to sign partially guaranteed contracts.

A number of players publicly voiced their concern that the union may vote against accepting the tentative agreement, including Montreal Alouettes’ linebacker Chris Ackie and B.C. Lions’ fullback David Mackie.
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Keep this up and they won't have a league to argue about money over. Lousy interest in the three biggest Canadian markets, not finding a way to play during cov-id and niw squabbling over what is sure to he a lousy financial year given consumer inflation and increased travel costs for the teams. Mr. Commissioner is deluded thinking anyone wants to expand into this charlie foxtrot of a situation.

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Old Posted May 25, 2022, 2:32 PM
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I am kind of neutral when it comes to this labour dispute. I realize the players want a fair shake but this is not the 1960s and 1970s major leagues with owners raking in crazy money while players earn a pittance. I don't doubt the CFL is profitable on the whole but at the same time I don't think it's making money hand over fist either.

If the league goes on strike I will happily find other things to do while the whole thing plays out.
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I worry about what a strike will do to those middle-commitment fans who can easily find other things to spend money on or do.
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Old Posted May 25, 2022, 2:38 PM
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It sounds like the league will shutdown camps Friday if no deal is reached cflpa might have really overplayed their hand here.
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