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Old Posted Feb 12, 2021, 7:26 PM
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They are waiting for Queen's Park decision, yea or nay for 2026 Games. It was in the news about a week ago. A decision is suppose to happen any day now.
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My understanding was that 2026 isn't possible (because the province won't fund for that year, due to the soccer World Cup) and they had to talk about the idea of a 2027 event with the Commonwealth Games Federation.

CBC story from Nov 5, 2020: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamil...%20governments.
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Old Posted Feb 12, 2021, 9:05 PM
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Hamilton’s Commonwealth Games bid is in ‘abeyance’ while province mulls position

Posted February 8, 2021 12:31 pm
https://globalnews.ca/news/7627292/h...ulls-position/

The ball remains in the province’s court as it relates to Hamilton’s potential bid to host the 2026 Commonwealth Games.

A letter sent to city council from the Hamilton 2026 Commonwealth Games Bid Corp. says its efforts remain in “abeyance” as it “awaits confirmation of a provincial position.”

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Old Posted Feb 12, 2021, 9:16 PM
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The province seems to like to leave us hanging, on a number of things.
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Victoria bid proposal could cost Hamilton its chance at Commonwealth Games
https://www.thespec.com/sports/hamil...lth-games.html

By Steve Milton
The Hamilton Spectator
Thu., Feb. 25, 2021

Could a new proposal from Victoria, B.C. cost Hamilton its chance at hosting the Commonwealth Games?

And not just Hamilton’s heartily-debated pivoted bid for 2026 (now more likely aimed at 2027), but even the centenary 2030 Games which has more local sentimental support?

“On the surface it would sound like a yes,” says Brian MacPherson, CEO of Commonwealth Sports Canada, the Games’ national overseer.

But, MacPherson added, the CSG is still committed to Hamilton — which hosted the original event in 1930 as the British Empire Games — as the Canadian bidder for 2030. Also, with nothing official yet from Victoria, they’re still in for 2026-27 here and for months have worked closely with the Commonwealth Games Federation which had asked Hamilton’s private, volunteer, bid group to make that abrupt shift.

That could all change if Victoria can make this a provincial government funding-commitment race, and win it.

The international federation’s constitution currently advises against any one region, let alone one country, hosting back-to-back Commonwealth Games.

In an opinion piece in the Vancouver Sun David Black, chair of Victoria’s ultimately abandoned bid for the 2022 Games, wrote that his group proposes a budget of $1 billion to host a regionalized 2026 Games, which includes sports in Vancouver and nearby. He suggested it won’t cost the municipalities any of their own money.

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Old Posted Apr 14, 2021, 4:29 PM
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Hamilton Commonwealth Games committee abandons any bid for 2026 Games, looks to 2030

https://www.thespec.com/sports/hamil...s-to-2030.html

Back to the future: it’s Hamilton100 again.

That’s 100 as in the year 2030, the 100th anniversary of the Commonwealth Games.

The local bid for the 2026 Games has been abandoned.

The Spectator has learned that the private consortium hoping to bring the Games to Hamilton, where they started in 1930, will concentrate solely on bidding for the 2030 Games after shifting — at the request of the Games’ national and international governing bodies — last year to bid for first, 2026, and later 2027.

Lou Frapporti of Hamilton100 Commonwealth Games Bid Corporation confirmed Tuesday night that “we had been asked to pivot (last fall, to a plan for a possible year-delayed Games for 2027) and worked hard on it, but the process has been aborted.


“Having deliberated on it, we are not interested in attempting to pivot to 2027 and resolve to focus back on, and win, 2030.”

Frapporti told The Spectator that the renewed bid for 2030 will be an amalgam of elements from the original 2030 concept — approved by the province and City Council in 2019 — and the restructured bid for a cheaper, more-regionalized 2026 Games, which would have significantly reduced the number of events and athletes.

The 2026 bid was repositioned as a post-pandemic economic recovery strategy. Because COVID-19 had silenced all other potential bidders, Hamilton was essentially guaranteed to host if the local committee could get the necessary agreements from all three levels of government.

Frapporti isn’t releasing any specific details of the restructured 2030 bid other than that “affordable housing will remain from the 2026 plan as the central legacy and impact strategy for 2030. It wasn’t part of the original 2030 bid.

“I’m disappointed we couldn’t get 2026 delivered but having said that, I’m excited. We are now back to a full centenary Games and we can do it to the nines. We have enough time.”

The provincial government announced last October it would support funding for Commonwealth Games in Hamilton “in 2027 and beyond” but not for 2026. The local committee was then asked to consider planning for a potential 2027 Games, which it did.

But the Commonwealth Games Federation (CGF), headquartered in London, England, is doggedly determined to try to keep on cycle with a 2026 Games. So when the provincial government, through Commonwealth Sport Canada, recently reaffirmed that it would support a Hamilton bid only for 2027 or later, the writing was on the wall for Hamilton.

The CGF has received new and varying degrees of international interest in 2026, including a suggestion from influential publisher David Black that Victoria, B.C. could host the Games then.

On Tuesday morning, Brian MacPherson CEO of Commonwealth Sport Canada (CSC) confirmed that, other than to help with questions about 2030, the international federation is no longer involved in what had been months of frequent meetings via video conference or by phone with representatives of the bid committee, the city, and the CSC.

And the CSC is also meeting less often with the local group, and then only to work on 2030.

“We won’t talk about 2027 unless the CGF gives some kind of sign that they’ll entertain that,” MacPherson told The Spectator. “And at this point they’re not. They’ve made it clear they want Games in 2026 and I agree with it.”

There has been reported new interest in hosting 2026 from several areas, including Australia, India and Sri Lanka. But Australian cities are now in the running for the 2032 Summer Olympics, so that would likely eliminate that country.

“Exploring is probably the best word for it,” MacPherson said of the inquiries around 2026. Like the international body works in advance with potential host bidders — before, rather than after, their formal bids are presented — the national body has been advising Victoria interests and stressing how much commitment is needed from municipalities, provincial governments, citizens, community and sports leaders.

“Our stance is that we’ll empower any group out there with the information they need so they can make informed decisions,” he said. “We’re not out to hurt anybody’s aspirations but aspirations have to be backed up by solid, facts, figures and work.”

He suggested that Hamilton’s rejuvenated 2030 bid — it is still the one that the CSC officially backs for the centenary Games — is well down all those roads.

Of course if Victoria can assemble a workable bid quickly enough to convince the international federation to go there for 2026, that would ruin Hamilton’s chance at 2030.

Frapporti agrees and his committee is aiming to finalize its 2030 bid by early next year. The CGF could award the 2030 Games sometime in 2023.
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I'm shocked.

I'm leery that this will get transformed into a Golden Horseshoe Games centred on T.O., with a few "legacy events" here to commemorate the anniversary. Mr. Ford's Ontario Line may just be ready in time, and if he's still in power he'll want to show off that and maybe other stuff to the world (at least the portion of the planet that's still considered Commonwealth)

We'll still be waiting for LRT, so nothing to see there.
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Old Posted Apr 14, 2021, 5:57 PM
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gah. Let it die in a ball of flames for all I care. Such an insane waste of cash.
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Commonwho?

Seriously, does anywhere really care about this?

Can someone name any athletes from the last Commonwealth games? Or even who won the most medals? I can even ask the same question for the Pan-Am games - which we partially hosted.
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LOL right? This is whole idea is a huge of waste of money. There are much more pressing matters that city needs to deal with than a huge, expensive athletic competition that few people genuinely care about
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LOL right? This is whole idea is a huge of waste of money. There are much more pressing matters that city needs to deal with than a huge, expensive athletic competition that few people genuinely care about
My comments remain the same about this. This is a "nice to have". I don't care about sports at all, but if Hamilton was in a good place, with lots of affordable housing, good rental policy and improving transit and cycling infrastructure, and major and minor arterials were quickly being infilled, then I'd say go for it. Cultural events are important, even if I don't care for the subject matter. As it stands though, Hamilton isn't in a place where this is an acceptable use of money. And with this garbage council, I don't believe it will be by 2030 either.

Maybe if we get some new councillors in 2022 that show me that the city wants to progress past 1978 city planning, then I'll support it. Until then, I've got to see a lot more improvement in this city before I support something like this.
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2021, 2:35 AM
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You guys are no fun.

I fully take your points though.

But, not that this is a cogent argument for more waste, consider HOW MUCH WASTE there is in other program and infrastructure spending (ex Ontario public servant here, who worked analyzing the economics of projects and plans). The Ontario Line has many opponents saying similar things about the waste of money... the under-construction Eglinton Line has its detractors, the whole "413" bullsh!t debacle which I know all too well, Ontario Place, health care, etc., etc., etc....

IF we can get the majority of the spend on the shoulders of the private sector
IF we can get some new social housing out of it all
IF we can get more useful athletic facilities that will benefit generations of amateur sportsters

Maybe this isn't just a fanfare thingy?

I doubt it will be more than the last comment I made. But if it can be designed such that long term public good comes out of short term political gain, it may just be worthwhile.
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