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Old Posted Jun 30, 2020, 5:29 PM
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Python, as proposed takes up the whole space. Unless Amazon builds in the small corner fronting Fallowfield, but I doubt a 450,000 warehouse and associated loading docks/parking would fit.
Thank you for sharing that so quickly. You're right, Python takes up the entire space.

I was excited to see something this large get built.
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Old Posted Jun 30, 2020, 6:18 PM
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OBJ article that acknowledges the size difference between Python as proposed and the Amazon Distribution Centre announced today. They say it's unclear if it will be built in phases (2.7 mil. Python)or if it will include multiple tenants. OBJ also acknowledges the existence of the North Gower and East Hunt Club proposals.

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Amazon to open second Ottawa-area warehouse in Barrhaven

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June 30, 2020


Less than a year after opening a one-million-square-foot warehouse in southeast Ottawa, e-commerce giant Amazon said Tuesday it’s planning a second fulfilment centre in the National Capital Region at a new development in Barrhaven.

Amazon said the 450,000-square-foot facility in the Citigate Business Park, which is expected to be completed next year, will create more than 1,000 full-time jobs. It will be the company’s eighth such distribution centre in Ontario and 14th in Canada.

“We're thrilled to be opening a second fulfillment centre in the nation's capital to better serve communities across Ontario,” Sumegha Kumar, director of Amazon Canada’s Canadian customer fulfillment operations, said in a statement.

The company says the new facility will make extensive use of robotics to pick, pack and ship small items such as books, electronics and toys to consumers.

“I'm pleased that Amazon has once again chosen to invest in Ottawa,” Mayor Jim Watson said in a statement. “This facility will create more than 1,000 jobs for our residents when it opens in 2021, and it will help keep employment strong in our city.”

Montreal-based developer Broccolini ​– which also built Amazon’s first local warehouse on Boundary Road ​– is spearheading the new project. As first reported in OBJ earlier this month, Broccolini recently filed an application at City Hall to construct a 2.7-million-square-foot industrial building at 222 Citigate Dr. in the heart of Regional Group’s 170-acre Citigate Business Park, just east of the intersection of Strandherd Drive and Highway 416. It was not immediately clear if the building will be built in stages or if the remaining space would be used for other purposes.

The “prestige office and light industrial building,” which is expected to include about 50 truck loading docks and more than 2,000 parking spaces, would easily eclipse the $200-million Boundary Road project to become the largest industrial building ever constructed in Ottawa.

Shawn Hamilton, managing director of CBRE’s Ottawa office, noted in an interview with OBJ earlier this month that Broccolini has a track record of building large-scale warehouse facilities that includes the Boundary Road distribution centre and a similar-sized project, also for Amazon, that is slated to open later this summer in Scarborough. Amazon is also planning new warehouses in Whitby, Oakville, Cambridge and Brampton.

The Barrhaven proposal is not the only plan that aims to add new inventory to an industrial sector that has seen few new builds for the past two decades. Ottawa’s industrial availability rate was less than three per cent at the end of 2019, a near-record low.

Broccolini wants to build a 700,000-square-foot warehouse in North Gower, a project that’s now under review from the province’s Local Appeal Planning Tribunal after it was approved by council last December.

Meanwhile, local developer Avenue31 recently filed plans to construct six office and industrial buildings totalling one million square feet on 100 acres of NCC-owned land near the corner of Hunt Club Road and Hwy. 417.

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https://obj.ca/index.php/article/ama...ouse-barrhaven
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You know, if this thing were built north of Gatineau on a road that goes up a hill, and that the municipality as a suck-up decided to name the road for the project, its address could actually be on "Montée Python"!
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You know, if this thing were built north of Gatineau on a road that goes up a hill, and that the municipality as a suck-up decided to name the road for the project, its address could actually be on "Montée Python"!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNoPJqm3DAY

Maybe one of these architects should be hired
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They updated all of the planning documents on June 3rd. The panels that used to be labelled Green are now Blaze Orange. The size is the same at 2.7M sqft. I'm guessing they must be proposing it in phases, but that's not clear from the documents.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNoPJqm3DAY

Maybe one of these architects should be hired
Aha! When I wrote that I was willing to bet a million bucks (or perhaps "quid" ) that you'd be the one to respond!

Good show!
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Aha! When I wrote that I was willing to bet a million bucks (or perhaps "quid" ) that you'd be the one to respond!

Good show!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP3x-cp4VHo

Truth be told I'm actually more of an Alan Partridge fan. Here is a link to an urban planning quote by Alan. He is in the dark with a new 'friend' and he is trying to keep the 'wolf from the door' and prolong the fun and frivolity so he asks Gill his new friend about her thoughts on the pedestrianization of Norwich City Centre. With all Alan Partridge it takes a bit of time to find the crazy humour in it all.
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My interpretation is that a 450k sqft. footprint * 6 floors = 2.7M sqft of total space.

If you look at the revised elevation in the app it appears that there are 5 or 6 floors, it's kind of unclear.

The initial documents refer to almost 2.7M sqft of total floor area (although only refer to 5 levels, not 6).
http://webcast.ottawa.ca/plan/All_Im...12-20-0038.PDF
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Truth be told I'm actually more of an Alan Partridge fan. Here is a link to an urban planning quote by Alan. He is in the dark with a new 'friend' and he is trying to keep the 'wolf from the door' and prolong the fun and frivolity so he asks Gill his new friend about her thoughts on the pedestrianization of Norwich City Centre. With all Alan Partridge it takes a bit of time to find the crazy humour in it all.
Thanks! I was not familiar with Alan Partridge. Even my Monty Python culture is a bit limited.
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My interpretation is that a 450k sqft. footprint * 6 floors = 2.7M sqft of total space.

If you look at the revised elevation in the app it appears that there are 5 or 6 floors, it's kind of unclear.

The initial documents refer to almost 2.7M sqft of total floor area (although only refer to 5 levels, not 6).
http://webcast.ottawa.ca/plan/All_Im...12-20-0038.PDF
I was pondering exactly the same thing. If the warehouse portion is all robotically operated, maybe Amazon just considers the 6 levels to be large shelves instead of floors

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As first reported in OBJ earlier this month, Broccolini recently filed an application at City Hall to construct a 2.7-million-square-foot industrial building at 222 Citigate Dr. in the heart of Regional Group’s 170-acre Citigate Business Park, just east of the intersection of Strandherd Drive and Highway 416.

It was not immediately clear if the building will be built in stages or if the remaining space would be used for other purposes. Late Tuesday afternoon, Broccolini's Ottawa-based director of real estate and development, James Beach, told OBJ the application is "an accurate representation of what we're building," but wouldn't provide further details.
the plot thickens...
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I'm pretty sure Python has always been conceived as multi-tenant. What tenant could fill 2.7 million square feet on it's own? I'm pretty sure what we are seeing here is the first confirmed tenant for a Broccolini vertical warehouse concept which will see multiple fulfillment centres on one footprint. I can't imagine them going forward without at least one other full floor plate tenant signed up though, so maybe this will end up being an Amazon/Shopify/et al. building. Whatever happens it's certainly very cloak and dagger smoke and mirrors at this point.
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I'm pretty sure Python has always been conceived as multi-tenant. What tenant could fill 2.7 million square feet on it's own? I'm pretty sure what we are seeing here is the first confirmed tenant for a Broccolini vertical warehouse concept which will see multiple fulfillment centres on one footprint. I can't imagine them going forward without at least one other full floor plate tenant signed up though, so maybe this will end up being an Amazon/Shopify/et al. building. Whatever happens it's certainly very cloak and dagger smoke and mirrors at this point.
The building in North Gower and the Amazon centre on Boundary Road were all very smoke and mirrors as well.

The Boundary Road site was already under construction I believe before formal applications were filed and the Barrhaven site has had lots of tree removal and site prep done before applications were filed and they were very vague.
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from what I can gather on these elevation plans, the building will be somewhat obsucred from the 416. In all likelihood it will be visible in winter and partially to totally obscured in summer?

http://webcast.ottawa.ca/plan/All_Im...12-20-0038.PDF
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Amazon hopes to open 'cutting-edge' Barrhaven warehouse 'as quickly as possible'
E-commerce giant targets 2021 launch date for multi-level distribution centre

By: David Sali
Published: Jul 2, 2020 4:06pm EDT


Amazon’s new warehouse in Barrhaven slated to open next year will include multiple levels and feature “cutting-edge” robotics technology to move merchandise, the e-commerce giant said Thursday.

The new facility, which is being built by Montreal-based Broccolini, will have a footprint of 450,000 square feet. Site plans filed by Broccolini last month indicated the building will be five floors and occupy a total of 2.7 million square feet.

Amazon’s director of Canadian customer fulfilment operations, Sumegha Kumar, would not confirm the number of floors in the new fulfilment centre, saying only it will have multiple levels.

“We’re still in the works of finalizing our plans,” she said in an interview with OBJ.

Kumar said the new warehouse in the Citigate Business Park, just east of the intersection of Strandherd Drive and Highway 416, will create more than 1,000 full-time jobs. It will be the company’s eighth such distribution centre in Ontario and second in the National Capital Region after a one-million-square-foot warehouse on Boundary Road in southeast Ottawa that opened last year.

Kumar said the building will make extensive use of “cutting-edge” robotics devices to transport and pack smaller items such as electronics, books, DVDs and toys. The existing Boundary Road facility stores and ships larger merchandise.

Heavy machinery is already at work on the 64-acre Barrhaven site located near a Costco store in the Citigate plaza, and Kumar confirmed the construction process is under way. Broccolini executive James Beach said Tuesday the contractor is aiming to have the building completed by the fall of 2021, with an expected price tag of more than $200 million. Kumar would not provide any further details on Thursday.

“We are working hard towards making this happen as quickly as possible,” she said. “As we get closer and complete all of the construction timelines and all of the other nuances in the facility, we will finalize our launch date.”

Amazon considers a “lot of different factors” when choosing a location for a warehouse, Kumar said, including its proximity to major transportation arteries and population centres as well as the size and quality of the labour pool in the surrounding area. She said the Barrhaven site checked off all the key boxes on the company’s list.

Kumar said it’s still not certain what geographic area the new distribution centre will serve.

“Our business will continue to grow between this year and next year, so we will continue to see how economically … and how quickly we can get (merchandise) to our customers with different modes of transportation,” she said.

While other Ontario cities are already home to large-scale distribution centres – Walmart, for example, has a pair of 1.5-million-square-feet logistics facilities in Cornwall – few other construction projects in Ottawa history could even compare to the scope of the new proposal. The new building would have a larger footprint than the 2.23-million-square-foot former Nortel campus on Carling Avenue, which is now home to the Department of National Defence.

Meanwhile, other major industrial projects are also on the drawing board for the capital region.

Broccolini wants to build a 700,000-square-foot warehouse in North Gower, a project that’s now under review from the province’s Local Appeal Planning Tribunal after it was approved by council last December. In addition, local developer Avenue31 recently filed plans to construct six office and industrial buildings totalling one million square feet on 100 acres of NCC-owned land near the corner of Hunt Club Road and Hwy. 417.

CBRE Ottawa broker Shawn Hamilton recently told OBJ that the National Capital Region’s location just a few hours’ drive from both the Greater Toronto Area and Montreal is a major selling point.

He said the Ottawa area is drawing the attention of more and more e-commerce companies looking to satisfy growing consumer demand for same-day deliveries to Canada’s two largest urban centres.

“Once you get a few (distribution facilities), you create a critical mass, and then people start to recognize the value of Ottawa’s location,” he said. “You will see more of these coming to Ottawa. I am convinced of that.”

https://www.obj.ca/article/amazon-ho...ickly-possible
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