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Old Posted Dec 13, 2019, 5:12 PM
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It's clear by the new rendering that they intend to replace the entire 2 floor retail portions. It looks like it may even extend all the way to Hard Rock. Any way we can verify this?

Edit: NM. Went back and looked at the first rendering on page 1. Looks like the Hard Rock portion will be left as is. I wonder if there will be any future plans to update that section?
They cant really do anything to that side without kicking out all the retail on 2nd street. I could see them doing a makeover but I doubt you'll see major structural changes.
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They cant really do anything to that side without kicking out all the retail on 2nd street. I could see them doing a makeover but I doubt you'll see major structural changes.
That's what I meant. Not a complete teardown. Just a facade makeover. It's going to look really outdated compared to the upcoming Hines, Block 23 and CityScape.
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Old Posted Dec 13, 2019, 10:38 PM
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Tower crane should be coming this weekend
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Tower crane should be coming this weekend
Already??
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Old Posted Dec 14, 2019, 5:58 AM
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Already??
Apparently 3rd street between Washington and Jefferson was closed today through the weekend for crane installation. I haven’t been by to verify.
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Old Posted Dec 14, 2019, 8:32 AM
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Guys, always post new renderings:

Yikes. Makes me long for Bob Glazier's simple and understated hotel design that never got past the stump due to the a$$hole who owned Crowne Plaza.


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Apparently 3rd street between Washington and Jefferson was closed today through the weekend for crane installation. I haven’t been by to verify.
Crane is up! But they are definitely going to have to raise it higher to complete the building, similar to Kenect.
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Awfully short. Only going to be able to get about 3 levels in before it needs raised.
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Old Posted Dec 16, 2019, 5:33 PM
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Awfully short. Only going to be able to get about 3 levels in before it needs raised.
I think they have a whole lot of work to do underground before they will build up.
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Man, that new rendering is a dullard.
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I have to say the name of these buildings are retarded nowadays.
I spoke with someone from Hines a few months ago and they mentioned that the name "Adeline" is being named after a lady (maybe Marcy Adeline Gray?) who was one of the first European settlers in Phoenix and apparently did positive things with the local tribes - I'm not sure of all the details, but he mentioned that they wanted to do some interior art or placard or something that gave tribute to her.
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I was under the impression that the first Europeans to settle in Arizona were Spanish...

But I'm no historian, so what do I know!!
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I spoke with someone from Hines a few months ago and they mentioned that the name "Adeline" is being named after a lady (maybe Marcy Adeline Gray?) who was one of the first European settlers in Phoenix and apparently did positive things with the local tribes - I'm not sure of all the details, but he mentioned that they wanted to do some interior art or placard or something that gave tribute to her.
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I was under the impression that the first Europeans to settle in Arizona were Spanish...

But I'm no historian, so what do I know!!
Yeah, you're both right--Marcy Adeline Gray was the first white woman to settle in Phoenix; the Spanish were in Arizona first, but never settled as far north as Phoenix. Still don't love the naming convention, but I can appreciate an effort to tap into some local history.
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Yeah, you're both right--Marcy Adeline Gray was the first white woman to settle in Phoenix; the Spanish were in Arizona first, but never settled as far north as Phoenix. Still don't love the naming convention, but I can appreciate an effort to tap into some local history.
Wow what an ignorant comment. "Spanish" are considered "white." I am part Spanish so I would know
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Wow what an ignorant comment. "Spanish" are considered "white." I am part Spanish so I would know
I didn't take that comment as an either/or, since (supposedly), the Spanish settlers weren't in Phoenix. If they were, they would be the first white/European settlers. Make sense?
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Funny that at the 1:16 mark, the skyline is backwards
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Old Posted Jan 15, 2020, 10:41 PM
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Funny that at the 1:16 mark, the skyline is backwards
Yeah weird. Looks a little outdated too.

Hopefully once Astra is built, it will make a significant enough impact on how downtown looks that marketing for downtown will include it so we won't keep seeing these outdated images of downtown.
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