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Old Posted Apr 16, 2019, 3:35 PM
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Well I think that tower is 1,700 ft tall.
The tower in that rendering may very well be.
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The tower in that rendering may very well be.
Will be the official design of this tower one of two designs in the photos?
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Will be the official design of this tower one of two designs in the photos?
Your guess is as good as mine. We still don't even know who controls the site.
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We may or may not get to see SHoP's design for this tower, but this is the upper level of the pier they worked on...


https://www.instagram.com/p/BwWuSiEjOMV/

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I guess now is as good a time as any for NIMBYs to freak out...



https://tribecacitizen.com/2019/04/1...-south-street/

In the News: Giant (I mean giant) tower for South Street?

April 19, 2019


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New York YIMBY reports that a 1,500-foot tower is envisioned by the Chinese company that owns 80 South Street. The rumblings about a super tall tower at that site have been going on for more than a decade, as the site changed hands several times and plans were drawn and then ditched. (Curbed has a good overview of the history of the site.)

The drawings were done by a Shanghai group that does architectural “visualization,” so not really architectural drawings, but enough to give you the idea of how gross it would be.


https://www.ebroadsheet.com/towering-concerns/

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Shortly after purchasing the site and assembling air rights, Howard Hughes began seeking a buyer for 80 South Street. Late in 2015, it reached a tentative agreement with China Oceanwide, at a price of $390 million. That sale was completed in early 2016. Records filed with the City by China Oceanwide indicate that the new owner planned at the time to erect a tower of more than 110 stories, that would be slightly more than 1,400 feet tall.

In a 2016 meeting of Community Board 1 (CB1), vice chair Paul Hovitz (who also co-chairs the Board’s Youth and Education Committee), noted that with the building planned for 80 South Street, “we’re looking at a 1,300 to 1,500 foot tower.” He added, “that building will have more than 500 apartments, and that will bring enough children in it to fill our new school all by itself.” (This was a reference to plans announced earlier in 2016, to create a new, public elementary school on Greenwich Street, in the Financial District, which will have 476 seats.)

Mr. Hovitz then asked City Comptroller Scott Stringer, who was attending the CB1 meeting as a guest speaker, “when will the City start forcing developers to kick into a school fund so that before they get a building permit, we can guarantee school seats for all of these people coming into the fastest growing residential neighborhood in New York City?”

Comptroller Stringer responded to Mr. Hovtiz, “I know how much you care about rational, responsible development. We have planned backwards as a City. We spend so much time thinking about tall buildings that we don’t think about how to build communities any more. We don’t think about how we build transportation infrastructure. We don’t think about the school population.”
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Comptroller Stringer responded to Mr. Hovtiz, “I know how much you care about rational, responsible development. We have planned backwards as a City. We spend so much time thinking about tall buildings that we don’t think about how to build communities any more. We don’t think about how we build transportation infrastructure. We don’t think about the school population.”
I think if they give tax breaks towards developers, they would be more willing to go with it and add things like schools or public improvements. Reason some resist is just because of how damn expensive it is to build along with the taxes and other bs adding to the soft and hard costs.

I think with 80 South, its a tower for the next cycle. 2022/2023 is my guess, along with 80 Flatbush.
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The company earlier this year hired Cushman & Wakefield to sell the site with initial pricing talk of nearly $300 million, according to Commercial Observer. A source familiar with the property said the sales process is still ongoing.

It’s possible that China Oceanwide put debt on the property as a way to free up some cash through the proceeds of the loan.

Will be interesting to see which bidder ultimately ends up with the site.
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Hopefully its Extell.
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Yea me too, they don't f*ck around
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This site is prime for NY's first 600m tower. Even if we have to wait, this could be NY's Chicago Spire moment (let's hope it actually happens though).

I hope our 1st mega tall rises downtown. Just for pure aesthetic reasons.
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^^Would be a great anchor for the city!
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From a piece on the sale of Oceanwide Center...


https://sfist.com/2019/12/04/its-not...wns-oceanwide/

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...the developer is looking for a taker for a development site it purchased at 80 South Street in New York — a site for a super-tall, 1,400 tower near Manhattan's South Street Seaport that's already been designed.
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Just a marker for where this would be (no design), in relation to 250 Water Street...










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^ unfortunately my spouse’s company was sold and moved out of 199 water — i was looking forward to watching this tower rise with a prime close up view someday.
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Hate to be a ass but 80 South Street will look taller from than angle compared to 1WTC and surrounding buildings as they are further away. So even more ridiculous to put such a tall tower there.
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Hate to be a ass but 80 South Street will look taller from than angle compared to 1WTC and surrounding buildings as they are further away. So even more ridiculous to put such a tall tower there.
That's great news, then. Lower Manhattan needs more supertalls, and especially needs a East River bookend to the WTC.
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Old Posted Mar 26, 2020, 5:29 PM
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Hate to be a ass but 80 South Street will look taller from than angle compared to 1WTC and surrounding buildings as they are further away. So even more ridiculous to put such a tall tower there.
It's not meant to be a photograph, but to be used as a diagram relative to height, that's why the height figures are included. It's just a condensed version of lower Manhattan.
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It's not meant to be a photograph, but to be used as a diagram relative to height, that's why the height figures are included. It's just a condensed version of lower Manhattan.
Oh yeh I know it's just letting others know that it won't look like that viewed from that angle in reality.
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