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Old Posted Mar 27, 2014, 5:43 PM
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With everything that is going on, at the end of the 2014 year, I bet the population is close to 8.5 mil. Probably even higher if right now if you make a projection for the undocumented immigrants.
Manhattan has little to do with NYC population growth. Manhattan is actually relatively slow growth compared to the Outer Boroughs.
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Old Posted Mar 27, 2014, 5:45 PM
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Manhattan has little to do with NYC population growth. Manhattan is actually relatively slow growth compared to the Outer Boroughs.
I know lol I was just insinuating to the fact that all of these new projects going up in the city are making the population rise fast. Most of it is happening outside of Manhattan of course.
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Old Posted Mar 27, 2014, 6:36 PM
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Crunched the numbers myself from the Census CSV file:

Bronx 1,418,733
Kings (Brooklyn) 2,592,149
New York (Manhattan) 1,626,159
Queens 2,296,175
Richmond (Staten Island) 472,621

New York City
2013 Population: 8,405,837

Change from 2012 8,405,837 - 8,336,697 = +69,140
Change from 2000 8,405,837 - 8,175,133 = +230,704
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Old Posted Mar 27, 2014, 9:06 PM
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If Brooklyn keeps it up, it will soon have over 3 million people; crazy!
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Old Posted Mar 27, 2014, 9:15 PM
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Nice, NYC it at its all time population peak right? I long for a day when Chicago sees 3,000,000+ residents in the city proper again.

Is there a source for these estimates for other cities? Or is that data not out yet?
The 2013 US Census county data can be found here. The county estimates are only directly applicable to cities which are incorporated as a county (or counties): NYC, Philly, Baltimore, Virginia cities, SF. But for counties dominated by the city pop such as Boston, the data shows the trend

What strikes me skimming through the cumulative estimates of population change from 2010 census to 2013 for counties in NY, MA, PA, VA is how strongly the population growth for the state is concentrated in the cities and denser metro region counties versus the rest of the state. If the current trend continues with only modest shifts through 2020, the 2020 census could result in a significant change in the balance of power between the denser metro (Blue) regions and the rural/exurban (Red) regions in VA, PA, possibly NY. The Boston metro region already controls the balance of power in MA.

BTW, LA county is now at 10 million people.
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Old Posted Mar 27, 2014, 9:34 PM
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Manhattan has little to do with NYC population growth. Manhattan is actually relatively slow growth compared to the Outer Boroughs.
That 3 year delta from 2010 to 2013 says that Manhattan grew by +2.5%, more than the Bronx. 2012 to 2013 was a slower year for Manhattan, but I think 3 years is a more useful baseline for showing trends. Brooklyn is growing the fastest, but Manhattan is not that far behind percentage wise. From the April 1, 2010 Census to the July 1, 2013 estimate:

Bronx: +33,625 people for +2.4%
Manhattan: +40,286 for +2.5%
Queens: +65,450 for +2.9%
Brooklyn: +87,449 for +3.5%
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Staten Island: +3,891 for 0.8%

Pretty remarkable when one looks at the decadal Census numbers from 1950 to 2000.
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Old Posted Mar 28, 2014, 12:41 AM
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http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/03/...s-record-high/

Census Bureau: NYC Population Hits Record High

March 27, 2014

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The United States Census Bureau released an estimate Thursday that shows New York City’s population has hit an all-time record high of 8,405,837 people.

“We know the population is growing. But to be honest this growth has even exceeded our expectations,” Joseph Salvo told WCBS 880′s Rich Lamb.

Salvo is the director of the population division at New York City’s Department of Planning.

“What’s interesting is that the flow of people, young people, young educated people from the rest of the country has actually increased in these difficult economic times,” Salvo added.

He credits the broad range of opportunities, saying it’s jobs and the cache of living in New York that is drawing the big numbers.


New York City Population Hits Record High

March 27, 2014
By Michael Howard Saul


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The Big Apple is getting bigger.

New York City’s population has hit a record high of 8,405,837, according to an estimate released Thursday by the U.S. Census Bureau. The city’s population, as of July 2013, increased by 230,704 people, or roughly 2.8%, since 2010.

Each of the city’s five boroughs posted population gains, with both Queens and Staten Island reporting new population highs. An analysis of the data from the New York City Department of City Planning showed the largest change occurred in Brooklyn, where the population grew by 3.5%, or 87,400 people; followed by Queens (2.9%, 65,500 people); Manhattan (2.5%, 40,300 people); the Bronx (2.4%, 33,600 people); and Staten Island (0.8%, 3,900 people).
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Old Posted Mar 28, 2014, 12:46 AM
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I'm happy that the Bronx is gaining residents. Brooklyn is poppin'

Hudson County grew a lot too. 2010 it was 634,277, now its 660,282. Thats a +26,005. Pretty impressive for the unofficial "6th NYC borough".
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I wonder it this will ultimately lead to a more accurate count, since many of these people don't make the census...


http://nypost.com/2015/01/13/new-yor...-new-id-cards/

New Yorkers emerging from ‘the shadows’ with new ID cards





By Michael Gartland
January 13, 2015


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The city’s new municipal ID cards became available Monday, leading Mayor de Blasio to proclaim they would allow many New Yorkers to emerge from “the shadows.”

“One piece of plastic, but it’s going to open so many doors for our fellow New Yorkers,” the mayor said at the Flushing branch of the Queens Public Library, one of 11 locations where the cards will be available.

“It’s going to make their lives better, because in the absence of identification in modern society, there are so many things you can’t do,” he said, pointing out that about half of New Yorkers 16 and over don’t have a driver’s license. “It’s going to mean people can lead fuller lives, better lives, lives full of respect and recognition.”

Anyone 14 or older can get a card after providing proof of identity and residency.

Although aimed at the estimated 500,000 undocumented immigrants, the cards are bound to be snapped up by others as well since they offer free or discounted membership to 33 cultural institutions.

And — for the first year — they’re free.

In Midtown Manhattan, the cards are available at the New York Public Library’s branch at Fifth Avenue and 40th Street from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. weekdays and 10 a.m. to 6 p.m. on weekends.
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Old Posted Jan 15, 2015, 4:36 AM
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Some interesting facts and some answers to common misconceptions:
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Immigrants and the Census:


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Myth: Undocumented immigrants should not be counted by the census.

Fact: Everyone counts in the census, regardless of immigration status.

The census is designed to count everyone living in the United States, regardless of legal status

Census statistics are used to figure out what kind of services each community needs, including schools, hospitals and health clinics, and jobs.
Census information is used to figure out which communities have enough people who speak languages other than English so as to require services in other languages.

Myth: Immigrants can avoid the census by not completing their census form.

Fact: If you don't want a visit from the government, complete your form promptly.

People who return a completed census form will not be contact by the Census Bureau

People who don't return a form by April 1 could have census workers come to their home up to six times to try to get a form completed

Myth: Immigrants don't benefit from the census.

Fact: Everyone, including immigrants, benefits from investments in education, health care, and jobs that are distributed based on census information. And census data are also used in ways that are of special importance to immigrants, including:

funding for nonprofit organizations to provide job assistance aimed at making foreign-born people economically self-sufficient;

helping states and local agencies develop health care and other services tailored to the language and cultural diversity of immigrants, including health care and other services tailored to the language and cultural diversity of elderly people under the Older Americans Act.

protecting the right to vote by evaluating voting practices of government subdivisions, such as states, counties, and school districts, under the Voting Rights Act;

evaluating the effectiveness of equal opportunity employment programs and policies under the Civil Rights Act;

allocating funds to school districts for children with limited English language proficiency;

Myth: Answering the census could get me in trouble with immigration or my landlord.

Fact: There's no need to fear the census. Individual information is safe and your privacy is strongly protected.

The census form does not ask about immigration status.
Census responses are confidential and protected by the strongest privacy laws we have.

The U.S. Department of Justice has issued a statement declaring that no other law – not even the PATRIOT Act – overrides the confidentiality of the census.

No other government agency – not even law enforcement or the courts – can get any person's individual census information for 72 years.

No other law or agency can override protections for the confidentiality of people's responses to census questions – not the Patriot Act, the IRS, Homeland Security, or ICE.

No private company, landlord or employer can get any household's census information, even with a court order.
Every census worker has to swear an oath to keep information confidential for life. If they violate that oath they face big fines and jail time.
The only thing to fear is not being counted.
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these population figures are outstanding. It is so wonderful to see the most dense big city in America becoming even more so, with all that this entails.
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Some interesting facts and some answers to common misconceptions:
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Everyone counts in the census, regardless of immigration status.

The census is designed to count everyone living in the United States, regardless of legal status

Yes, in an ideal world, that would be so. But illegal immigrants are less more likely to be counted because of that fear. With recent moves by the president, and encouraging signs like these id cards, maybe more will come forth to be counted, and we'll get a "closer to" accurate count, though I believe the census will come up short no matter what.

But if I were here illegally, and did not want to risk being sent away, yeah, you could save your census forms.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_928384.html

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Maria Fernandez, a Mexican immigrant who lives in Jackson Heights, said she believes that the census may actually be correct because undocumented immigrants likely did not want to be counted and failed to report.

“I know people who didn’t want to know about the census out of fear," she said. "There is much concern about raids, and even though it is said [the census] information is not shared, people mistrust it,” Fernandez said.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/penn...class-citizens

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“To all of my fellow New Yorkers who are undocumented, I say: New York City is your home, too,” de Blasio said. “And we will not force any of our residents to live their lives in the shadows.”

http://www.wnyc.org/story/citys-new-...eally-popular/

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Undocumented immigrants shouldn’t worry that by signing up they will be making themselves vulnerable to deportation or prosecution. Four executive orders were issued to protect this data.
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Old Posted Feb 8, 2015, 10:11 PM
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New York City's Population Projections

The NYC government has projected that by 2015 its population will be about 8.5 million people. It anticipates that the population of New York City will reach 8.7 million by the year 2020, and that by the year 2030 it will reach nearly 9.2 million residents.

This increase predicts that between 2000 and 2030 New York City’s population will increase about 13.9 percent.

The report also predicts that by the year 2030 Brooklyn will continue to be the most populated of the five boroughs. Queens will remain in second, Manhattan in third, the Bronx in fourth, and Staten Island in fifth.

New York City Demographics

In New York City, 44 percent of the population is white, 25.5 percent are blacks, and 12.7 percent are of Asian descent. Hispanics of any race represent about 28.6 percent of New York City’s population, while those who are of Asian descent represented the fastest-growing demographic between the years 2000 and 2010. As a whole, the non-Hispanic white population of the city has decreased by about 3 percent; and for the first time since the end of the Civil War, the percentage of blacks in the city has decreased over the span of a decade.

The income disparity between the citizens of New York City is very wide. According to the latest census, the median household income for a wealthy citizen was $188,697 per year, and the poorest median income was reported at $9,320. This city houses the highest number of millionaires and billionaires in the entire world. Moscow, Russia, follows in a close second.

New York City is also going through one of the biggest baby booms in its history. This is a unique number among major cities in the United States, as the number of children under the age of 5 living in the city has increased by more than 32 percent.
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Old Posted Feb 8, 2015, 10:20 PM
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Chris, I think those population projections are old and stale. If I recall correctly, they're from before the 2010 census results had come out. The city subsequently revised its projections downward in light of the census. In any case, they don't provide sources, so it's hard to verify.
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The Census Bureau will release county estimates for 2014 next month.

New York City was at 8.4 million in 2013, which was up 69,000 from 2012. Therefore, not only is 8.5 million in 2015 is perfectly doable, it would even be below current trends. Maybe the numbers given in the link are stale after all?

My prediction is 8.46 million in 2014 and 8.53 million in 2015. Job growth feels strong and should continue to attact new residents.
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New York City was at 8.4 million in 2013, which was up 69,000 from 2012. Therefore, not only is 8.5 million in 2015 is perfectly doable, it would even be below current trends. Maybe the numbers given in the link are stale after all?


Again, it's hard to tell, since chris's link doesn't cite a source, but the numbers in chris's link line up with the Department of City Planning's outdated 2006 projections: (http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/pdf/cens...ng_booklet.pdf). In their latest projections released in December 2013 (http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/pdf/cens..._2010_2040.pdf), they project 9 million people by 2040, rather than the 9.2 million people by 2030 that their 2006 report had predicted:


Here is the projection trend, according to DCP's 2013 report:
  • 2010 8,242,624
  • 2020 8,550,971
  • 2030 8,821,027
  • 2040 9,025,145

We'll see if DCP revises their figures upward next time their projections are released. I'm not optimistic. Remember that the 2004-2010 Census estimates wildly overestimated the actual 2010 Census count for NYC, which is what led to the higher 2006 projections. So just because the Census estimates are at 8.4 million now, doesn't mean that the Census would actually count that many people if it were taken today.

Anyway, it's important not to post stale and unattributed numbers in this thread, as they sow confusion and misinformation.

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Old Posted Feb 9, 2015, 4:07 PM
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I would question the 2020 figure. Its beyond low. So much going on, so many neighborhoods growing, an influx of buyers and renters, theres no way that can be a feasible estimate. If the city stopped being competitive, than it would make sense, but its growth is not that low to have a estimate like that for 2020. Maybe they are low balling it, but time will tell.
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I don't have time to look up the numbers right now (they're on Censtats but have also been reported on Yimby), but the average number of housing units built per year since 2010 is definitively under the average number of housing units built per year during the 2000-2008 period. And the city's population only grew by 170,000 people or so in the 2000s, according to the Census Bureau. Unless a lot more housing is built in the next 6 years (or unless the Census gets much better at counting undocumented immigrants), the Department of City Planning's estimates don't seem unreasonable.

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I don't have time to look up the numbers right now (they're on Censtats but have also been reported on Yimby), but the average number of housing units built per year since 2010 is definitively under the average number of housing units built per year during the 2000-2008 period. And the city's population only grew by 250,000 people or so in the 2000s, according to the Census Bureau. Unless a lot more housing is built in the next 6 years (or unless the Census gets much better at counting undocumented immigrants), the Department of City Planning's estimates don't seem unreasonable.
It is important to differentiate between buildings being built and people actually moving in. For example, in downtown Brooklyn all the new highrises such as Oro, Toren, and Avalon were only filled in 2010-2011. After recession most of the buildings built in 2008 and 2009 only filled in by 2011-2012. There is typically half a year to a year lag between a building being completed and it achieving full occupancy. The buildings that were completed during and right after the housing crisis took 2+ years to fill.
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Official population estimates for New York City will be released to the public by the Census Bureau on Thursday. Anyone care to guess what the July 1, 2014 estimate will be?

Reiterating 8,460,000
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