noirish Los Angeles

[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by Ed Workman

Thought I posted but ????
Anyways. This is Watts- thats Watts Tower. Watts was the end of Fourtracks.

You're right Ed, you have no doubt answer the question numerous times & I should have recognized Watts RR Tower,
but I didn't recall the brick building in the distance so I was thrown a bit.


Here's another photograph of Watts Tower that I believe is new to NLA.


https://esngblog.files.wordpress.com.../slauson_1.jpg

[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by UphillDonkey

How do I delete my post? I just noticed someone already posted the answer.

What I do is make a NEW post in that field [delete the old]. We all have some NLA item on file to post....if not, find one on google.

I know ER certainly has one waiting in the wings....

[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I thought it might be fun to try and figure out the intersection where the man tries to give Office Clark a bribe.

...

We get a good look down the street as the owner of the car approaches.

#4

I think this is UphillDonkey's reply - the picture and text appear in the middle of e_r's quoted post.

Originally Posted by UphillDonkey

Sunset Blvd at Bellevue and Beaudry. The Gas station has gone but the motel behind it is still there.

We've seen the Paradise Motel a couple of times before. Here it is from a 2010 post by Beaudry. The picture includes the Texaco station from the Foot Patrol film.

Originally Posted by Beaudry

[Ed Workman]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

You're right Ed, you have no doubt answer the question numerous times & I should have recognized Watts RR Tower,
but I didn't recall the brick building in the distance so I was thrown a bit.


Here's another photograph of Watts Tower that I believe is new to NLA.


https://esngblog.files.wordpress.com.../slauson_1.jpg

Thanks for the pic
But that is Slauson Tower, where Slauson and. under the photogs feet, the Santa Fe line to Wilmington crossed Fourtracks. Behind the Photog there is a branch to the right To Whitter? In the nlate 40s it was connected to a new line from the UP at Bartolo, so SP freight trains could get from City of Industry to the LA Harbor via a 'shortcut'.
And note that none of the locomotives are electric, but diesel -electric. The trolley pole on the lead locomotive is used to trigger the highway xing signals like the electrics cars did

[Ed Workman]

And another thing about the Watts pic
That boxcar is not necessarily rusty. It's painted the standard color for most freightcars of the era and previous century , um, Freightcar Red, sometimes called Tuscan Red. The actual color, should you want to buy a gallon for your dining room, varied greatly with RR and age, who mixed it and where the pigment was obtained

[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by Ed Workman

Thanks for the pic
But that is Slauson Tower.

oops. Now I'm embarrassed. Architecturally, are many of the towers identical?
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I wish this snapshot was larger (and clearer).....but I thought I'd post it anyway.


past sale / eBay

It supposedly shows Watts RR tower in the 1920s. (from this angle it looks like the tracks are aiming right toward the building! )

....and I can't figure out what the flag is attached to.
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Oh, & thanks for the information on the color of freightcars Ed....very interesting.

Kodachrome slide - 1957

http://picclick.ca/35mm-Kodachrome-R...l#&gid=1&pid=1

[Martin Pal]

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

PS I'm with Blaster...enough already of the Lucy & Ethel hunt for movie stars. Enough of that picture, at least, please.

Do you mean this one?


gettyimages

[unihikid]

Originally Posted by Martin Pal

Do you mean this one?

lol, that made my day. I do want to say its a great picture. And seeing the inside of Ciros is sorta a treat.

[ethereal_reality]

Exactly.

Some people like architecture pics.....some like rail pics.....some like Hollywood personality pics........etc.

That's the reason NLA is still going strong after all these years.

[Blaster]

Originally Posted by Martin Pal

Do you mean this one?


gettyimages

I love the banquettes around the walls where couples dined side by side, facing out.

[ethereal_reality]

"Wilmington California PACIFIC ELECTRIC RAILWAY DEPOT c1948"


http://www.ebay.com/itm/OLD-HISTORIC...4AAOSwbsBXoTwr

Does anyone know what cross streets we're looking at?

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a bit larger.


detail

I spy a Wig-Wag, Jack.





I'd really like to know what it says above this entry gateway (circled below). At first I thought it might be an entrance to a parking lot behind the P.E. station,
but on closer inspection I see two steps in the entryway.




Rebel's Cocktails to the right of the circle looks like a fairly noirish place to have a vodka gimlet.

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[GaylordWilshire]

Originally Posted by Blaster

I love the banquettes around the walls where couples dined side by side, facing out.

The old bag sitting directly under the second microphone from the left is Mrs. Mary D. Nilson, who lived on Windsor Boulevard.


From what I can tell, we haven't seen anything of the Briggs-Nilson case here on NLA.... I discovered what may be the case of the world's worst mother-in-law if not just a son-in-law's murderous proclivities while working on the story of 514 South Windsor Boulevard.... There were lots of headlines beginning with this one of July 21, 1959, until the mid-60s. Long story short, Mary Nilson was not happy with her daughter Norma's choice of John Briggs as a husband...but then the bride was three months pregnant.... Norma forgave her husband within days of the "accident"--but not Mary. Briggs pleaded insanity but was nevertheless found guilty of attempted murder and given a 1-20 year sentence. The decision was overturned. The old lady died intestate and Norma got her $2,708,000... then the Briggses divorced after much countersuing. And Norma appears to have then married her ex's brother.

[Ed Workman]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

oops. Now I'm embarrassed. Architecturally, are many of the towers identical?
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I wish this snapshot was larger (and clearer).....but I thought I'd post it anyway.


past sale / eBay

It supposedly shows Watts RR tower in the 1920s. (from this angle it looks like the tracks are aiming right toward the building! )

....and I can't figure out what the flag is attached to.
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Oh, & thanks for the information on the color of freightcars Ed....very interesting.

Kodachrome slide - 1957

http://picclick.ca/35mm-Kodachrome-R...l#&gid=1&pid=1

Interlocking towers tended to be built from Standard Plans of the railroad.
The Railroad typically meant the second one to get there- that it the RR that made a crossing necessary. Second place meant building the tower and providing the manpowere to run it Some towers were special because of a large number of tracks or architectural demands- like the tower at Los Angeles Union Passenger Terminal. But there were dozens of towers like Watts and Slauson. For a very special one, try finding a pic of the one that protected the crossing of the Santa Monica Airline and Fourtracks

[odinthor]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Exactly.

Some people like architecture pics.....some like rail pics.....some like Hollywood personality pics........etc.

That's the reason NLA is still going strong after all these years.

And trees. Don't forget that some of us like trees:

[GaylordWilshire]

Palms, maybe. Otherwise,


(I want to see the BUILDINGS.)

[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

"Wilmington California PACIFIC ELECTRIC RAILWAY DEPOT c1948"


http://www.ebay.com/itm/OLD-HISTORIC...4AAOSwbsBXoTwr

Does anyone know what cross streets we're looking at?

I'd really like to know what it says above this entry gateway. At first I thought it might be an entrance to a parking lot behind the P.E. station,
but on closer inspection I see two steps in the entryway.

Rebel's Cocktails to the right of the circle looks like a fairly noirish place to have a vodka gimlet.

We're looking south-west from the intersection of Avalon Boulevard and East D Street. A larger version of the photo (3000 x 2409px) can be found at www.pacificelectric.org. It shows that the gateway was the entrance to the Wilmington Chamber of Commerce. All the buildings close to the camera are gone, but most of the ones after the gateway are still standing, including the one with the shipping and steamship sign on the side.


GSV

The Hotel El Monterey is also still standing at 233 Avalon Boulevard. It's now the Monterey Inn.


GSV

[ethereal_reality]

Excellent sleuthing Hoss!




I obviously jumped the gun last night when I thought I had found the "400 Savoy St." scene in the short-film Hoss discovered.

It's actually a very brief scene with a drunk behind a billboard.


usc




That's N. Broadway behind Officer Clark.


usc

Not much else to see.....although a streetcar whizzes past at one point.

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[ethereal_reality]

Hoss, thanks so much for the link to that high quality photograph of the 1948 Wilmington/P.E. scene.


You can clearly see Rebel's 'Cocktails' sign (it was blurry in my pic & I wasn't 100% sure it said cocktails)


http://www.pacificelectric.org/wp-co...ngton-1948.jpg

and I spot another noirish looking place....The Maritime Club, on the far side of the C of C 'gateway'.



At first glance I thought the vehicle parked in front was advertising Bail Bonds.



but I believe it says B & H Brand 'something'.

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[HossC]

I think this is the Maritime Club building.


GSV

[HossC]

We've visited the Long Beach area a few times recently - these Julius Shulman images are from a little way inland. This is "Job 3641: Douglas Building (Long Beach, Calif.), 1963".



Here's the building from a distance.



There are two black & white images in the set, but one duplicates the first color shot. Here's the other one.



All from Getty Research Institute

While I was looking for a location, I came across these undated images at the Library of Congress. They appear to show the same building with an addition at the top and the Boeing name across it.







All from Library of Congress

The photos above are labeled "Douglas Aircraft Company Long Beach Plant, Engineering Office Building, 3855 Lakewood Boulevard, Long Beach, Los Angeles County, CA Photos from Survey HAER CA-315-R". I looked at that address, but only found the low, white Boeing building. It looks like a lot of the area has been cleared.