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Old Posted Oct 31, 2023, 2:58 AM
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^ They're going to make this one count. You're not finding another Fifth Av location like this again. Like the old expression "buy land they're not making it anymore", the message to Extell should be "make a masterpiece, you'll never have this opportunity again."
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^ They're going to make this one count. You're not finding another Fifth Av location like this again. Like the old expression "buy land they're not making it anymore", the message to Extell should be "make a masterpiece, you'll never have this opportunity again."
That certainly applies here. You won't find another site like this on 5th Avenue. It's hard to get a site on 5th Avenue period. But this site gives options. It's big enough for modern office floorplates. But you could also build sky high condos in a mixed-use building. The second option needs a zoning change to permit residential.
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^ Yeah, it's in it's final days now.

On another note, I wish we had an idea exactly what Barnett intends to build. Now that they have a solid footprint, maybe they will officially start the approvals process (they were so close before). Or maybe they'll just decide to build something as-of-right. Either way, skyline watchers want to know.
How tall could they go as-of-right?
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How tall could they go as-of-right?
There are no height limits, so it would depend on design. An office tower would have larger floors, less height.
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But you could also build sky high condos in a mixed-use building. The second option needs a zoning change to permit residential.
What are the odds of this happening?

I hope they build 1,100+ in this location and don't blow the opportunity. I feel like if it's pure office that's less likely to happen though.
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Extell primarily builds condos, though this site could easily support an office building. Extell is currently building a medical office building on the Upper Eastside, and flirted with building office at 740 8th Avenue. But their last major office proposal was for the World Product Center (1 Hudson Yards) on the west side.























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Still awaiting demo, but you get an idea of proximity to 270 Park...


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I hope that Extell changes the two proposed designs that it had shown. Both were decent but not spectacular.
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I hope that Extell changes the two proposed designs that it had shown. Both were decent but not spectacular.

Extell has got to go through the approvals process. They were close to beginning a couple of years ago, but I suppose chnges to the plan(or potential changes) paused that. I don’t expect a radically different looking tower, but that’s ok because I think it looks fine as it is.

The rendering below depicts the tower with the full 5th Avenue frontage.



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Hopefully we will get some finalization of plans for this site in the coming weeks or months.
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Hopefully we will get some finalization of plans for this site in the coming weeks or months.
That would be awesome but what makes you think it'll be so soon?
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That would be awesome but what makes you think it'll be so soon?
I'm no Nostradamus, but the fact that the building is coming down means there will be some type of resolution with the site, one way or another.
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That empty lot sure does stand out.


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There’s speculation on Yimby that this is the design, and that it’s placed at the WTC to preserve confidentiality.
It looks like it’s about 1,100’ tall.


The architect’s Instagram is Hism.eu. There’s a nice video.


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There’s speculation on Yimby that this is the design, and that it’s placed at the WTC to preserve confidentiality.
It looks like it’s about 1,100’ tall.


The architect’s Instagram is Hism.eu. There’s a nice video.
Not sure where any of the speculation you're talking about is anywhere on the YIMBY forums, there was 0 speculation on any of that, the vision was featured in multiple random locations. Nobody said that that was the design, and nobody said the latter about confidentiality. that's not how that works.

HISM is not an architecture firm, it is a graphic design/visualization firm, the confidential client would be an architecture firm (who are still allowed to do conceptual work on random sites they have no association with), not the client, who is still Extell.
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That'd be cool if true but seems a bit far fetched.

Also it looks more like 1,250+ feet tall compared to 1WTC.
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I absolutely love it! I did see a rendering of the same design also in Hudson Yards and on what appeared to be the 570 Fifth site.
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