Tucson Development Thread - Page 382

xymox · #**7621** Posted **Mar 2, 2021, 7:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by AZ71

This is the ugliest building I think I have ever seen. I hope Rio Nuevo or city council or someone has last say at this. I mean this looks NOTHING like the proposals over the past 4 years. How could they build something so grotesque? I'm all for development and skyscrapers....but not if this is what they're going to build. Thy city approved plans and sketches for the other structure. Can they just up and change it in the final days?

It looks like a ‘tower’ computer case I had circa 1995... Did the earliest rendering also say ‘Dell’ and have a square ‘Intel Inside’ sign on them?

wildcatmd · #**7622** Posted **Mar 2, 2021, 7:33 PM**

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Erm - is that 75 Broadway or something else? Egads...

Am I the only one that likes it? I think it’s kinda quirky in an endearing way

AZ71 · #**7623** Posted **Mar 3, 2021, 2:11 AM**

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Originally Posted by Azstar

I thought the original design was much worse than this one. Anyway, you have to understand that almost any building, whether you like it or not, is better than a vacant lot. Downtown Tucson development is still very fragile.

Honestly a vacant lot will look better than this 80s building that looks like they tried to "update" it by painting panels on the top levels. I just think this is horrible. Its hard to believe its from the same people that designed the TEP headquarters across the street which is at least modern looking. This will do nothing for our skyline but add a huge box that now really looks like a giant parking garage.

Ted Lyons · #**7624** Posted **Mar 3, 2021, 3:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by wildcatmd

Am I the only one that likes it? I think it’s kinda quirky in an endearing way

Honest question: Did you like the final iteration of La Placita? This looks like that in tower form to me.

azliam · #**7625** Posted **Mar 3, 2021, 6:04 PM**

It reminds me of a jazzed-up version of Kowloon's Walled City where everything was just slapped together, and developers built new modular structures above older ones.

AZ71 · #**7626** Posted **Mar 3, 2021, 8:02 PM**

I emailed Swaim Architects as well as Rio Nuevo letting them know something this ugly and so prominent for our skyline would be a huge setback to the development of downtown. I urge others to go to their websites and give them your 2cents.

wildcatmd · #**7627** Posted **Mar 3, 2021, 8:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by Ted Lyons

Honest question: Did you like the final iteration of La Placita? This looks like that in tower form to me.

I did like La Placita! This seems like the kinda thing that people hate at first but will grow on people over time.

somethingfast · #**7628** Posted **Mar 3, 2021, 9:32 PM**

that design is HIDEOUS. it's just as bad as the Home Federal Savings building (aka "bathroom tile" building), which was my previous pick for Ugliest Tower in America. now this. Tucson...you need to reject this absolute monstrosity. first, they make is LESS tall than your current tallest (why???) and then give you this design??? absolute garbage. my condolences...

somethingfast · #**7629** Posted **Mar 3, 2021, 9:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by wildcatmd

I did like La Placita! This seems like the kinda thing that people hate at first but will grow on people over time.

um, no....

Eapiwo · #**7630** Posted **Mar 3, 2021, 10:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by AZ71

I emailed Swaim Architects as well as Rio Nuevo letting them know something this ugly and so prominent for our skyline would be a huge setback to the development of downtown. I urge others to go to their websites and give them your 2cents.

Just remember everyone to be professional with your criticisms when contacting the folks who designed this. Be constructive, not mean. This was designed by people with feelings.

somethingfast · #**7631** Posted **Mar 3, 2021, 11:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by Eapiwo

Just remember everyone to be professional with your criticisms when contacting the folks who designed this. Be constructive, not mean. This was designed by people with feelings.

I am not so sure. Seriously, man, what architect in their right mind would concoct such a monstrosity of divergent concepts??? They deserve wrath as they spent - max - an hour putting this jalopy together.

wildcatmd · #**7632** Posted **Mar 4, 2021, 12:22 AM**

If this thing gets built, and in a 100 years people want to tear it down to build something better, people will rally to save it as an architectural treasure.

AZ71 · #**7633** Posted **Mar 4, 2021, 2:35 AM**

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Originally Posted by Eapiwo

Just remember everyone to be professional with your criticisms when contacting the folks who designed this. Be constructive, not mean. This was designed by people with feelings.

Being constructive is like a professor telling a student why this design doesn't work. I'm sorry but if you look at other buildings Swaim has designed (for example the modern TEP building across the street) there is no reason for this. Especially when the designs for this have been circulating for 4 years already.
And the final product always looks worse than the renderings. Take THE FLIN for example. So this really scares me.

crzyabe · #**7634** Posted **Mar 4, 2021, 6:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by AZ71

Being constructive is like a professor telling a student why this design doesn't work. I'm sorry but if you look at other buildings Swaim has designed (for example the modern TEP building across the street) there is no reason for this. Especially when the designs for this have been circulating for 4 years already.
And the final product always looks worse than the renderings. Take THE FLIN for example. So this really scares me.

When the Design and final building for TEP were shown publicly, everyone hated it. It was called an "Ugly Stapler" in the paper. So it is is kinda funny we are using that as an example of better design.

I think this rending is not great, I am hoping changes are made before design is finalized.

AZ71 · #**7635** Posted **Mar 4, 2021, 6:37 PM**

They also designed the AC Marriott and the UofA HSIB building which are all quite nice.

Ted Lyons · #**7636** Posted **Mar 4, 2021, 7:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by crzyabe

When the Design and final building for TEP were shown publicly, everyone hated it. It was called an "Ugly Stapler" in the paper. So it is is kinda funny we are using that as an example of better design.

I think this rending is not great, I am hoping changes are made before design is finalized.

Yeah, I honestly still don't like the TEP building much. Massing is not very good.

andrewsaturn · #**7637** Posted **Mar 8, 2021, 1:46 AM**

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Originally Posted by Ted Lyons

I, uh . . .

Legos but in real life

omarainza · #**7638** Posted **Mar 8, 2021, 3:56 AM**

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I, uh . . .

what. the hell. is THAT 😭😭😭

kmiller5 · #**7639** Posted **Mar 16, 2021, 12:24 AM**

Apparently Cadence may be sold and converted to market rate apartments. Rio nuevo will be discussing a GPLET for the project tomorrow. With a GPLET they'd have to make substantial additional improvements to the property, right? Any ideas on what those may be?

Ted Lyons · #**7640** Posted **Mar 16, 2021, 3:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by kmiller5

Apparently Cadence may be sold and converted to market rate apartments. Rio nuevo will be discussing a GPLET for the project tomorrow. With a GPLET they'd have to make substantial additional improvements to the property, right? Any ideas on what those may be?

I'm sure the units need to be substantially reconfigured.