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New Château Laurier design agreed upon by Larco and Heritage Ottawa. Looks like a throwback to the first proposal.

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I am pleased to see that LARCO and Heritage Ottawa have worked collaboratively and agreed on a new design for the Château Laurier that protects views from Major’s Hill Park and meets Council’s key conditions for improvement. 1/2



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I’ll look forward to the debate at Committee and Council on this proposed design that protects the cherished Château Laurier for current and future generations. 2/2

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I preferred the previous version. This one is too damn tall. I can't comprehend how after 4 years we end up with something that's pretty much the first iteration in massing, but the last in design.
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Latest Château Laurier design pleases heritage group, mayor

'Dramatically altered' design a vast improvement, Heritage Ottawa says

CBC News · Posted: Aug 13, 2020 1:15 PM ET | Last Updated: 1 hour ago


The latest design features a U-shaped courtyard and vastly improves sightlines of the grand hotel, according to Heritage Ottawa. (@JimWatsonOttawa/Twitter)

Both Heritage Ottawa and Mayor Jim Watson say they're pleased with the latest design for an expansion of the city's iconic Château Laurier hotel.

According to Heritage Ottawa, the "dramatically altered" design represents a "ground-breaking change" that "will see an end to the widely vilified horizontal bar-shaped structure that blocked the rear view of the historic hotel."

The new design features two pavilions with a low-rise connector, which the heritage group said is "more compatible with the irregular silhouette of the original hotel," and improves views of the building from Major's Hill Park and the Rideau Canal.


A view of the latest proposal from the National War Memorial area. (Larco Investments)

Heritage Ottawa also approves of the use of Indiana limestone cladding, as well as copper and bronze elements that reflect "the heritage character-defining elements of the historic hotel."

Larco Investments, which bought the hotel in 2014, submitted the first expansion proposal two years later. It and several subsequent attempts were roundly criticized by the public, politicians and heritage experts alike.

In September 2019, Ottawa's committee of adjustment turned down parts of the design that city council had voted to allow.


This design proposal, the fifth, was submitted in May 2019. (Larco Investments)

In a statement Thursday, Heritage Ottawa commended both Larco and the ordinary citizens who demanded a better design.

"This ground-breaking change of course was made possible by the citizens of Ottawa and by Canadians from across the country who, responding to the absence of government action, joined Heritage Ottawa in its fight to find a better outcome for this beloved National Historic Site."

Mayor Jim Watson also signalled his approval on Thursday.

Watson did not provide a timeline for that decision.

In a separate statement Thursday, Larco confirmed it had settled its dispute with Heritage Ottawa before the province's Local Planning Appeal Tribunal, and said it will now begin talks with the National Capital Commission about the project.


A woman photographs the Château Laurier hotel from Major's Hill Park in Ottawa on Sept. 15, 2019. (Claudine Richard/Radio-Canada)


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Aug 13, 2020 6:06 PM ET A previous version of this story said Larco has settled its dispute with Heritage Ottawa before the province's Local Planning Appeal Tribunal and that Larco will now begin talks with the National Capital Commission about the project. In fact, Larco still has to appear before the Local Planning Appeal Tribunal and the company said it's ready to resume talks with both the City of Ottawa and the National Capital Commission regarding the revised design plans.



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CHÂTEAU LAURIER ADDITION: HERITAGE OTTAWA ANNOUNCES SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WITH HOTEL OWNER AND NEW DESIGN FOR PROPOSED ADDITION

Thursday, August 13, 2020
HERITAGE OTTAWA | Media Release

HERITAGE OTTAWA is pleased to announce that it has reached an agreement with Capital Hotel Limited Partnership, an affiliate of Larco Investments Ltd., and the owner of the Château Laurier Hotel, concerning the proposed addition to the Château Laurier.

The agreement is based on a dramatically altered design of the addition that will see an end to the widely vilified horizontal bar-shaped structure that blocked the rear view of the historic hotel.

This ground-breaking change of course was made possible by the citizens of Ottawa and by Canadians from across the country who, responding to the absence of government action, joined Heritage Ottawa in its fight to find a better outcome for this beloved National Historic Site.

This breakthrough was enabled by the owner’s willingness to consider public concerns and to work with Heritage Ottawa and internationally respected Canadian conservation experts to revise the design in favour of a more compatible scheme that respects the heritage character of the Château Laurier. We appreciate Larco’s openness to negotiation and the good will it showed in those discussions leading to a resolution of this dispute.

The new two-pavilion design with low-rise connector is more compatible with the irregular silhouette of the original hotel and reopens iconic views to the rear courtyard that reveal the U-shaped form and picturesque qualities of the Château Laurier from Major’s Hill Park and re-establishes a more favourable relationship with the Rideau Canal.

The preponderance of Indiana limestone cladding and copper and bronze elements reflects the heritage character-defining elements of the historic hotel.


“From the beginning we have called for an appropriate contemporary architecture that respects the heritage characteristics of the hotel, and we are very pleased with this result,” said Richard Belliveau, president of Heritage Ottawa. “Heritage Ottawa could never have achieved this outcome without the advice of heritage experts and historians, and more importantly, without the financial and moral support of the Friends of the Château Laurier and the hundreds of Canadians who gave so much to this important cause.”

The Minutes of Settlement and associated design will require approval by the City of Ottawa and the Local Planning Appeals Tribunal (LPAT).

Contact : info@heritageottawa.org

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I preferred the previous version. This one is too damn tall. I can't comprehend how after 4 years we end up with something that's pretty much the first iteration in massing, but the last in design.
Disagree. This is all just everyone's own opinion, but to my untrained eye the latest proposal has way more visual "nods" and alignment with the old building (roof line, 1st and 2nd story windows, etc.) than the old one.

I also like how you can see more of the old building's roof line and interior through the courtyard from Major Hill's Park.
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Disagree. This is all just everyone's own opinion, but to my untrained eye the latest proposal has way more visual "nods" and alignment with the old building (roof line, 1st and 2nd story windows, etc.) than the old one.

I also like how you can see more of the old building's roof line and interior through the courtyard from Major Hill's Park.
We can see more of the interior courtyard, which is good, but it hides the back of the east and west wings and that part of the iconic roof line. I'll need to see more and better renderings (from the Hill, the Canal and the Museum of Civilization in particular) to formulate a complete opinion.
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Heritage Ottawa finds common ground with Château Laurier owner on design, ending legal fights

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Publishing date: Aug 13, 2020 • Last Updated 5 minutes ago • 2 minute read




The owner of the Château Laurier and a heritage advocacy group have drawn up a compromise when it comes to the design of an addition to the historic hotel.

Larco Investments announced Thursday that it reached an agreement with Heritage Ottawa on a new design that will end the advocacy group’s court action and challenges filed at the Local Planning Appeal Tribunal.

“This breakthrough was enabled by the owner’s willingness to consider public concerns and to work with Heritage Ottawa and internationally respected Canadian conservation experts to revise the design in favour of a more compatible scheme that respects the heritage character of the Château Laurier,” Heritage Ottawa said in a written statement.

“We appreciate Larco’s openness to negotiation and the good will it showed in those discussions leading to a resolution of this dispute.”

Larco said it will be filing the new design plans with the City of Ottawa and the National Capital Commission. The city will need to approve the latest design.

“The new scheme will have 155 rooms, which is greater than the 147 rooms in the previous scheme, as the reconfiguration of the area and massing has permitted an increase in the number of rooms while keeping the overall square footage the same or slightly less,” Larco spokesperson Dennis Parolin said.

Larco’s architect on the project is Peter Clewes of architectsAlliance.

According to Heritage Ottawa, “the agreement is based on a dramatically altered design of the addition that will see an end to the widely vilified horizontal bar-shaped structure that blocked the rear view of the historic hotel.”

The group lauded a new two-pavilion design with a lower connecting piece that won’t block the views from Major’s Hill park to the back of the U-shaped heritage hotel.

The new design “re-establishes a more favourable relationship with the Rideau Canal,” Heritage Ottawa said.

The increase of Indiana limestone, copper and bronze will better complement the hotel, the group said.

Heritage Ottawa president Richard Belliveau credited the many people who backed their fight against the previous architectural plans.



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OTTAWA, ON Thursday, August 13, 2020 – Capital Hotel Limited Partnership, an affiliate of Larco Investments Ltd. and the owner of the Fairmont Chateau Laurier, is pleased to announce that it has reached an agreement with Heritage Ottawa with respect to the proposed addition to the Fairmont Chateau Laurier.

This revised scheme for the addition was designed by Larco’s architect Peter Clewes, of architectsAlliance, after consultation with and input from experts in heritage architecture, including representatives from Heritage Ottawa.

Pursuant to the agreement reached with Heritage Ottawa, the parties have agreed to consensually resolve the legal proceedings presently before the Local Planning Appeals Tribunal (LPAT), which are related to the decision of the Committee of Adjustment in 2019, in such a manner so as to permit the revised architectural scheme.

Now that this agreement has been reached with Heritage Ottawa, Larco Investments Ltd will be re-engaging with both the City of Ottawa and the National Capital Commission with respect to the revised design plans.

The agreed upon architectural scheme for the proposed addition is depicted in the two images attached.

A.0.3 Major’s Hill Park view from Colonel By Statue



A.0.6 War Memorial View



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For more information, please contact:

Suzanne Valiquet
Momentum Planning and Communications
Phone: 613-729-3773/Cell: 613-222-7839
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"Capital Hotel Limited Partnership... is pleased to announce..."

Ya, right!
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Would it have been totally kitsch to put a copper chateau roof on the western annex? (Worked for the Supreme Court building).
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Out of curiosity...

The roof on the Chateau is copper. As it ages, it turns green. Will the roof in the addition be roofed in copper as well?
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I'm surprised they're still intending to go through with this, given the pandemic and the economic slump. Massing is better and significantly breaks down the previous bar they proposed. The facade articulation is the still the same aA barcode found on many of their condos which is already tired and dated although props to them for sticking to limestone, copper and bronze as their materials. I still think that any modern gesture here is inappropriate and antithetical to the site and the hotel. It lacks the timelessness and fantasy that the current hotel provides.
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After all this time we can be absolutely confident they have no will to go back to the drawing board. As for the various iterations they have released of the same general design language I find this one the most palatable by far.
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This is it. No doubt this design will be built. I would have liked another architect have a go at it, someone who has experience with heritage buildings and/or expanding heritage structures with modern additions.

Peter Coffman came to the same conclusion I did a few hours ago in this Tweet:

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Interesting to note how much closer the new design for the #ChâteauLaurier is to the original proposal than to any of the ones in between. How did the process, over a nearly 4-year span, get us further and further away from a solution instead of closer?



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God that original design was hideous and ornery. It fought with the Chateau for attention with it's bulges and crevasses. At least the latest design is subservient to the Chateau. It's very 'meh' but at least it flows with the original massing and doesn't attract the eye nearly as much as the other designs. Preserving some views of the courtyard from Major's Hill Park is a bittersweet victory.

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I wish the NCC would just “bribe” Larco with a prime piece of LeBreton to build nothing here Landswap this tiny site with something much bigger next to Pimisi station where they can build anything and barcode to their heart’s content.
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I wish the NCC would just “bribe” Larco with a prime piece of LeBreton to build nothing here Landswap this tiny site with something much bigger next to Pimisi station where they can build anything and barcode to their heart’s content.
I would unironically much rather have this happen than any of the proposed additions so far.
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Got that original design was hideous and ornery. It fought with the Chateau for attention with it's bulges and crevasses. At least the latest design is subservient to the Chateau. It's very 'meh' but at least it flows with the original massing and doesn't attract the eye nearly as much as the other designs. Preserving some views of the courtyard from Major's Hill Park is a bittersweet victory.
Although it's the same massing as the first design (I would like to see the full numbers to compare: height, square footage, number of rooms...), the new proposal is an improvement. As you say, it doesn't compete for attention as the first, or most other, versions did. Good on Larco for working with Heritage Ottawa on these improvements; it's a wonder this wasn't done years before.

I feel like at the end of the day, it was a choice between preserving the views of the interior courtyard from Major's Hill or preserving views of the rear roof line and masonry walls from Parliament Hill, Entrance Bay and Hull.

If the proposal was one or two floors lower, the angle of the roof matched the angle of the original and had dormers instead of slats, then my opinion might shift in favour just a little bit more.
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I would have preferred nothing can built or that the extension the same "chateau-style", although with that being said I do believe this latest version is better than the previous. I like the low 1-story glass "connector" which breaks up the previous proposed wall.
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I feel like at the end of the day, it was a choice between preserving the views of the interior courtyard from Major's Hill or preserving views of the rear roof line and masonry walls from Parliament Hill, Entrance Bay and Hull.
Except it isn't.
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