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Old Posted Jul 22, 2019, 4:06 AM
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What exactly does a construction permit mean for the project moving forward?
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Old Posted Jul 22, 2019, 12:40 PM
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ATX Real Estate News says there's some TX state permitting going on for 6X -- and notes a completion date:

https://atxrealestatenews.com/2019/0...s-july-15-2019
Completion in August 2023? Four years from now? 68-story building with a hotel still standing on its plot? Surely they jest...
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Old Posted Jul 22, 2019, 4:39 PM
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Completion in August 2023? Four years from now? 68-story building with a hotel still standing on its plot? Surely they jest...
That hotel could be wiped out in a matter of a few days. It's not like it's a tower that needs imploded. Just look at how fast they cleared the 5th & Lavaca site.
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Old Posted Jul 22, 2019, 5:32 PM
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That hotel could be wiped out in a matter of a few days. It's not like it's a tower that needs imploded. Just look at how fast they cleared the 5th & Lavaca site.
Agreed, that is not a significant building by any means. They will have no trouble clearing that out fairly quickly.
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Old Posted Jul 22, 2019, 5:55 PM
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Agreed, that is not a significant building by any means. They will have no trouble clearing that out fairly quickly.
I promise that building would be gone in less than 2 weeks.
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Old Posted Jul 24, 2019, 1:00 PM
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Still four years is impossible. Just look at all downtown projects. The Proper still has a banner advertising "Early 2019 Move-Ins", for crying out loud.
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Old Posted Jul 24, 2019, 4:49 PM
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Still four years is impossible. Just look at all downtown projects. The Proper still has a banner advertising "Early 2019 Move-Ins", for crying out loud.
Never say never. The Independent took about 3.5 years to top-out. Conversely, on there are a number of supertalls being constructed in NYC that take about 3-4 to fully construct.

So, yes, it is most certainly possible to construct a 68-story, 848' tower within a four-year timeframe.

Let's wait and see when groundbreaking and construction actually occurs.
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Old Posted Jul 25, 2019, 4:53 AM
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Besides, it would start being visible on the skyline 12-18 months in.
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Old Posted Jul 26, 2019, 9:56 PM
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This is creeping closer and closer to reality. Retention plans for the excavation were posted for AULCC this afternoon.

ftp://ftp.ci.austin.tx.us/ATD_AULCC/...9/190808/PLAN/
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Old Posted Jul 27, 2019, 2:23 PM
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This is creeping closer and closer to reality. Retention plans for the excavation were posted for AULCC this afternoon.

ftp://ftp.ci.austin.tx.us/ATD_AULCC/...9/190808/PLAN/

Exciting! Didn't this originally only have 1 level below grade? This appears to now be going down 3 levels.
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Old Posted Jul 27, 2019, 5:06 PM
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This is creeping closer and closer to reality. Retention plans for the excavation were posted for AULCC this afternoon.

ftp://ftp.ci.austin.tx.us/ATD_AULCC/...9/190808/PLAN/
Is there anything about the cadence of the overall timelines up to this point that gives you any concerns? Or is this fairly standard for a project of this size?
I honestly have no idea or frame of reference.
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Old Posted Jul 28, 2019, 7:21 PM
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Is there anything about the cadence of the overall timelines up to this point that gives you any concerns? Or is this fairly standard for a project of this size?
I honestly have no idea or frame of reference.
I was worried for a bit because there wasn't (and still hasn't been) any activity posted to the tower site plan since last December. But the recent permit activity related to construction and excavation along with the retention plans posted for AULCC and the hotel closing make a strong case for this moving forward.

There is no typical timeline for big projects, but three years from announcement to groundbreaking seems fairly common. This one is only two years in.

One of the AULCC documents lists the construction dates as 10/21/19 to 12/31/19. There is always some ambiguity as to what these dates mean. If it's ~2 year range or so it's safe to interpret the dates as the construction time frame for the tower. If it's a short range like in this case it often means when the groundbreaking will take place. But demo could still happen before 10/21. Also, it looks like the hotel moved up their closing date a little. Tuesday 08/27 is the last day they are taking reservations.
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Old Posted Jul 29, 2019, 8:52 PM
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Could be something could be nothing:

They have the right-most lane on Guadalupe blocked today between 7th and 6th next to Extended Stay with utility trucks digging in the pavement. I was going too quick to notice what the trucks were doing other than ripping up pavement and sidewalk. Perhaps another sign of progress.
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Old Posted Jul 29, 2019, 9:22 PM
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Could be something could be nothing:

They have the right-most lane on Guadalupe blocked today between 7th and 6th next to Extended Stay with utility trucks digging in the pavement. I was going too quick to notice what the trucks were doing other than ripping up pavement and sidewalk. Perhaps another sign of progress.
It is probably related. They filed permits for excavating around the block for utility info related to the project excavation.
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Old Posted Jul 29, 2019, 9:25 PM
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Extended Stay website still not accepting reservations for that location after the end of August.
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Extended Stay website still not accepting reservations for that location after the end of August.
There goes my vacation plans shot to hell....
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Old Posted Jul 30, 2019, 10:41 PM
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There goes my vacation plans shot to hell....
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Old Posted Jul 31, 2019, 8:28 PM
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September 3. We have a start day - for demo anyway. A right of way street closure permit was filed today for six weeks during the demo of the Extended Stay from 09/03 to 10/15.

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This request is for the Demo phase of the construction project at 600 Guadalupe Street. The overall project includes the construction of a 67 story high rise, but this specific permit is for the first 6 weeks of the project relative to the demolition of the Extended Stay America Hotel prior to excavation. On Guadalupe Street - Northwest corner of the 6th/Guad Intersection - 1520 sf of sidewalk and 628 sf of bike lane. On 6th Street - Northwest corner of the 6th/Guad intersection - 2400 sf of sidewalk, 1360 of metered #712) parking, and 128 sf of unmetered area.
https://abc.austintexas.gov/web/perm...rtyrsn=1126127
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Old Posted Jul 31, 2019, 8:30 PM
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It's going to be amazing watching this one go up, but man, I hope they don't drop the ball on The Republic. I really want to see both towers go up, but at this point, The Republic is the building I'm most excited to see rise in Austin among all others.
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Old Posted Jul 31, 2019, 8:32 PM
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The last AULCC posting listed 10/21 - 12/31 as the apparent start date range. That works with the demo schedule.
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