Winnipeg | 300 Main St.- Phase II / 360 Main St. | ~142M | 465 Ft | 42F | U/C

[WinCitySparky]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

Any chance of floors being lopped off if they are having to add more steel (more weight) to the structure?

Anything’s possible but no actual talk of it yet in official channels. I imagine if they have a third seismic event there will be some serious questions. For now they have resumed structural loading as of Thursday.

[Biff]

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[bomberjet]

In some good news. Looks like they're getting closer to having the sidewalk on Main St re-opened sometime soon.

[DLLB]

Can someone please explain what has been going on with the recent delays and reinforcements and is there a concern about the structural integrity of the building?

Thanks!

[The Jabroni]

Originally Posted by DLLB

Can someone please explain what has been going on with the recent delays and reinforcements and is there a concern about the structural integrity of the building?

Thanks!

Unless someone from the inside can tell us and explain what's going on, we're in the same boat as you are.

There are one or two guys in here who are literally working on this project, or at least have sources related to the project.

[WinCitySparky]

Originally Posted by The Jabroni

Unless someone from the inside can tell us and explain what's going on, we're in the same boat as you are.

There are one or two guys in here who are literally working on this project, or at least have sources related to the project.

Unfortunately the only info I have is either what I’ve seen and heard firsthand, and what comes in through the official email channels, the latter being extremely limited. Everything surrounding the seismic events has been kept extremely hush hush. When safety is asked about it, they literally say “they don’t know what you’re talking about”. It’s very shady and shrouded in mystery. After the latest event, the loading of the building was halted for 16 days or so, then abruptly began again, absolutely no explanation given. Seismic sensors have been set up all up the structure. Progress is gradually continuing.

[buzzg]

Saw beams being hoisted up today so seems like it's moving again.

[Malcsta]

Originally Posted by buzzg

Saw beams being hoisted up today so seems like it's moving again.

hollowcore floor for the 30th floor was completed last night/this morning so its probably time for more steel

[JWinnipeg1991]

Last I heard ETC is 2022?

[bomberjet]

Seems about right.

The lower level exterior works seems to be coming along nicely. Although I haven't see what the graham side looks like in any detail for a while.

[buzzg]

Earls' possession date is still February 2021 last I heard.

[Biff]

Steel is up to 32 now.

[Biff]

Gives you a good idea of the height of office floors and residential floors. 360 Main is a 31 floor office building and the top of the steel on 300 Main is 32 floors.

Originally Posted by Biff

[zalf]

Originally Posted by Biff

Gives you a good idea of the height of office floors and residential floors. 360 Main is a 31 floor office building and the top of the steel on 300 Main is 32 floors.

Why is that, anyway? Air quality concerns?

[DirtWednesday]

Originally Posted by zalf

Why is that, anyway? Air quality concerns?

There's a lot going on above the ceiling tiles in a commercial building, whereas an apartment block is your concrete ceiling is your upstairs neighbour's floor.

[esquire]

I'm assuming that the difference would be even more pronounced if 360 Main were a modern build as compared to a 40 year old tower... don't newer buildings have more ceiling room to provide clearance for IT and other building infrastructure, as well as just a general tenant preference for higher ceilings?

[DirtWednesday]

Off the top of my head from 20 year old engineering classes I didn't pass:
By code, commercial buildings require more structural strength, so your floor/ceiling concrete+beams are just going to be thicker.
Then the code also calls for massively stronger HVAC, which I think is going to be the main reason for drops ceilings, which will contain the huge ducts.
Electrical and IT cable trays will take some space.
I can't remember if the higher ceilings between the floor and ceiling tile is require by code, or if that is a preference. But, more room, more HVAC power, bigger ducts, bigger mechanical space.

[roccerfeller]

Originally Posted by esquire

I'm assuming that the difference would be even more pronounced if 360 Main were a modern build as compared to a 40 year old tower... don't newer buildings have more ceiling room to provide clearance for IT and other building infrastructure, as well as just a general tenant preference for higher ceilings?

I could believe that

For example,
Looking at the TNS tower 1 office building, if it were even 10 floors taller, some scratch math and ratios would put it taller than 360 main at ~27 storeys vs 31 of 360 main, likely for the reasons you described

PS those latest live pics looks great

[alt_center]

Re. ceiling height... in an apt/condo where rooms are smaller, a given ceiling height (e.g., 9 ft) might look and feel just fine, but that same 9 ft ceiling in the larger rooms and open spaces of an office might look and feel very oppressive.

[Malcsta]

Core raised again. Looks about the same height as 360 main now