Atlantic Highways Thread - Page 64

Franco401 · #**1261** Posted **Sep 27, 2020, 10:30 AM**

I can't quite picture what you're describing. Can you go into more detail or illustrate?

Here's what I'd do.

The roundabout is optional, but the basic idea is to keep the park space contiguous and as big as possible. The overpass would come to ground shortly after crossing the railway, and Crown is routed around it all. Traffic on Waterloo would keep using the current jog along Brinley.

Here's a much more radical solution.

The idea here is that the overpass will need replacing in the long term, and the onramp doesn't need to go with it. The new overpass would have two lanes southbound (for incoming traffic from exit 125, just like it does now) and one lane northbound (solely for access to Mt Pleasant). Crown will continue not onto the overpass but onto Rothesay, where drivers looking for Route 1 eastbound will just use the One Mile overpass. This allows any new development to face the square, and it make Thorne the primary route out of uptown for KV-bound commuters.

As for Somerset, the grading, the railway and the importance of that exit for UNBSJ, the Hospital and the rest of the North End and Millidgeville guarantee there won't be an at-grade intersection between Station and Somerset. The best possible thing there is a protected cycle lane on the overpass and some sorting out of the Garden/Hazen/Dorchester cobweb. Main, on the other hand, could use a considerable road diet along the entire absurd 6-lane section. There's all kinds of room for improvment there.

adamuptownsj · #**1262** Posted **Sep 28, 2020, 6:43 PM**

Your first sketch is exactly what I was thinking. Bringing Haymarket Square back in park form would make a great northern terminus of a Marsh Creek Harbour Passage boardwalk extension, pending connection to Rockwood.

That onramp can probably go, provided Ashburn Lake gets the new interchange.

Franco401 · #**1263** Posted **Sep 29, 2020, 12:18 AM**

I really prefer my second concept, because I think Crown is the one major artery in Uptown and the South End that doesn't stand to be reduced or calmed, since it doesn't have many properties facing it and it's so crucial for outbound traffic. A Harbour Passage extension could run alongside it while it extends into Rothesay Ave to reduce congestion without making the area less pedestrian-friendly. Some outbound traffic could even use the Courtenay Bay Causeway, avoiding this square entirely.

The Crown Court apartments could expand in the current parking lot to face the square.

Either way, my priority (and I don't live in SJ currently) for that area would be installing a multi-use overpass across the throughway from the corner of Spruce and Wright to the Armour transit lot on Clyde St and a staircase + switchback ramp from about Ritchie St to Golding St, further connecting Uptown and the North End.

josh_cat_eyes · #**1264** Posted **Sep 29, 2020, 1:44 AM**

I was checking out the Tesla website today and noticed that they are planning on adding supercharger stations in Charlottetown, New Glasgow and Aulds Cove this year. I’d love to see more built on the north shore in NB and the south shore in NS. I can see Mirimachi, Bathurst, Campbelton, Kentville, Digby, Yarmouth, Shelburne, and Bridgewater being future locations!

adamuptownsj · #**1265** Posted **Sep 29, 2020, 4:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by Franco401

I really prefer my second concept, because I think Crown is the one major artery in Uptown and the South End that doesn't stand to be reduced or calmed, since it doesn't have many properties facing it and it's so crucial for outbound traffic. A Harbour Passage extension could run alongside it while it extends into Rothesay Ave to reduce congestion without making the area less pedestrian-friendly. Some outbound traffic could even use the Courtenay Bay Causeway, avoiding this square entirely.

The Crown Court apartments could expand in the current parking lot to face the square.

Either way, my priority (and I don't live in SJ currently) for that area would be installing a multi-use overpass across the throughway from the corner of Spruce and Wright to the Armour transit lot on Clyde St and a staircase + switchback ramp from about Ritchie St to Golding St, further connecting Uptown and the North End.

You're right on Crown. It's not a crazy freeway and isn't a priority like Main is.

The overpass you propose wouldn't work without major demos in a stable neighbourhood. Grade too steep.

Franco401 · #**1266** Posted **Sep 30, 2020, 4:32 PM**

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The overpass you propose wouldn't work without major demos in a stable neighbourhood. Grade too steep.

It meets Seely/Mt Pleasant at the same place Crown currently does, but the grade will be the same along the length rather than flattening out. The grade should work, plus it meets City Road on a section with no buildings currently.

adamuptownsj · #**1267** Posted **Sep 30, 2020, 5:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by Franco401

It meets Seely/Mt Pleasant at the same place Crown currently does, but the grade will be the same along the length rather than flattening out. The grade should work, plus it meets City Road on a section with no buildings currently.

Ah, I read as 'Wright and Stanley' for some reason.

Dengler Avenue · #**1268** Posted **Sep 30, 2020, 8:55 PM**

Now that development in Moncton has jumped across TCH, it gets me wondering: Will the speed limit be lowered to 100 kph just like through Edmundston in the near future?
I just noticed an intersection with 2 left-turn lanes from N.B.-115 north of TCH. That's something.

Franco401 · #**1269** Posted **Oct 1, 2020, 4:02 AM**

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Now that development in Moncton has jumped across TCH, it gets me wondering: Will the speed limit be lowered to 100 kph just like through Edmundston in the near future?

No way. That Edmundston section (I assume) only has that lower limit because it has a Jersey barrier rather than a median. Everything from then on is supposed to have a design speed of 120. Moncton's exits are all pretty good and the TCH is far enough away that they're far away from each other.

Dengler Avenue · #**1270** Posted **Oct 1, 2020, 4:04 AM**

Jemseg River Bridge also has concrete barriers. Why is it 110 kph there then?

Franco401 · #**1271** Posted **Oct 1, 2020, 11:23 AM**

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Jemseg River Bridge also has concrete barriers. Why is it 110 kph there then?

- Built in 2001 rather than the 60s(?) by engineers told specifically the design speed

- Wider shoulders, taller barrier

- Those bridges each actually have a space between oncoming traffic, so that's double the protection. They're 25m wide, a four-lane highway with concrete barrier is 20m

- That 20m road (the Vanier in Fredericton) has a limit of 110km/h. I suppose age and offramps are the real reasons Edmundston has it shorter.

Dengler Avenue · #**1272** Posted **Oct 1, 2020, 3:07 PM**

Okay. I didn’t know that freeway in Edmundston was built before Quebec A85 around Rivière-du-Loup even became a thing (in 1972). But yea, the exits to the McD’s and to the casino are very close.

It’s fascinated me because that’s the only section of N.B.-2 where the speed limit is 100 kph.

Nashe · #**1273** Posted **Oct 4, 2020, 11:29 AM**

Was driving along Wheeler Blvd in Moncton yesterday and noticed something I've never noticed before... old pilings sticking out of the side of Hall's Creek after the University de Moncton exit:

https://www.google.ca/maps/@46.10307...7i13312!8i6656

Looking back through the years (different street-views), they were not as evident... I'm thinking erosion is bringing them out of the bank. Was there a crossing of the swamp there previously? Or some sort of shore-up wall? Next to them you see a large outcropping of rock... which I'd think would be the "fill" of whatever the pilings enclosed.

I'm always curious about these sorts of things. Pilings are one of those items that jump out at me as significant because they are clearly human-placed for a specific purpose.

Taeolas · #**1274** Posted **Oct 13, 2020, 6:28 PM**

As I mentioned elsewhere, I went to Cape Breton over the weekend. I was driving and don't have a dash cam so no pictures; but I must say, the work being done to twin the TCH from New Glasgow to Antigonish is impressive. A lot of the road foundation work is going strong. There are still a lot of bridges to build and valleys to fill, but there's a lot being done across the entire stretch. It'll be a great drive in a few years when it is done.

Dengler Avenue · #**1275** Posted **Oct 13, 2020, 6:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by Taeolas

As I mentioned elsewhere, I went to Cape Breton over the weekend. I was driving and don't have a dash cam so no pictures; but I must say, the work being done to twin the TCH from New Glasgow to Antigonish is impressive. A lot of the road foundation work is going strong. There are still a lot of bridges to build and valleys to fill, but there's a lot being done across the entire stretch. It'll be a great drive in a few years when it is done.

Yep, looking forward to a contiguous TCH 4-lane divided freeway from Arnprior, ON to Antigonish, N.S. in 2025.

According to FrAnKs, A85 construction has also been well underway.

Dmajackson · #**1276** Posted **Oct 23, 2020, 3:53 PM**

Dexter Nova Alliance has a website with more information and some construction photos of the Highway 104 Twinning Project.

https://hwy104twinning.ca/

MonctonRad · #**1277** Posted **Oct 23, 2020, 3:58 PM**

Thanks.

I see they made a (possibly Freudian) slip, mentioning the anticipated completion date for the entire project as 2043 (they meant 2023).

JHikka · #**1278** Posted **Oct 23, 2020, 5:00 PM**

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I see they made a (possibly Freudian) slip, mentioning the anticipated completion date for the entire project as 2043 (they meant 2023).

No, it's correct. The 2043 is their operations and maintenance enddate for the highway.

"In addition, DNA will be responsible for the operation and maintenance of an additional 25 kilometres of existing highway over a 22-year period."

Dengler Avenue · #**1279** Posted **Oct 24, 2020, 1:20 AM**

They expect to open 2 twinned sections next year?! Yo, 2021 will be a good year for TCH in Atlantic Canada (including Autoroute 85 in Quebec).

adamuptownsj · #**1280** Posted **Oct 24, 2020, 4:21 PM**

https://imgur.com/a/ZQeqGZD

I thought of an easy fix for the Somerset overpass. Make it three way and close off Hazen/renumber it to Dorchester. That and a pile of fill could help. A roundabout would work, maybe put lights at Coburg.

A second roundabout on Garden-Station too, why not?