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Old Posted Nov 6, 2016, 8:19 PM
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The SW Moody extension, whenever it finally gets built, will require right-of-way currently owned and used by the Willamette Shore Line Trolley. The trolley group is a consortium of local and regional governments set up for the express purpose of improving the corridor with rail transit. Much of the land is not in fee ownership, but rather "for rail purposes only", so the City's expectation is that they need to either include streetcar in the new street or rebuild the existing trolley tracks on the side of the new SW Moody extension. The City Council resolution says as much. This property ownership issue came up when the City and TriMet were planning a streetcar extension all the way to Lake Oswego about 5 years ago. That didn't pan out, but a shorter extension seems prudent, particularly given that there's some pretty dense new development going in Johns Landing.
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the streetcar should connect to the orange and green line. then make a bike path to lo
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the streetcar should connect to the orange and green line. then make a bike path to lo
Huh? The streetcar already connects to the Orange line. I do believe there is either plans to or something to eventually connect a bike path down to the new Sellwood bridge.
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Huh? The streetcar already connects to the Orange line. I do believe there is either plans to or something to eventually connect a bike path down to the new Sellwood bridge.
just have monorail from the sellwood bridge to the green line down the springwater corridor trail. then have the streetcar go to the sellwood bridge.
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Streetcar annual report, which is being presented to council next week.
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Presentation [PDF - 17MB] to the Planning and Sustainability Commission about the future of the streetcar system.

You can watch starting at 32:30:

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Old Posted Mar 19, 2017, 2:03 PM
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I wanted to give my perspective on the design difference between the DC streetcar and a potential for design on Sandy/Broadway. I am a little worried Portland will make the same mistakes.

In DC the streetcar was added to a 4 lane road + parking (H Street NE) without dedicated lanes. Here:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Wa...=en&authuser=0. It also precluded any bicycle facilities much like when NW Lovejoy had considerations for further bike lanes halted when the streetcar was put in. This is a heavily cycled area of town.

Sandy is a very similar space to H Street NE prior to the massive infrastructure investments that have taken place in the last decade. Both are car-centric designs with a potential for large numbers of cyclists. Because it is a heavily traveled bus and streetcar route, as well as a restaurant destination, H st consistently looks like one of those traffic games where no one can move. Sightlines for pedestrians are often attenuated, making crossing hazardous as cars often pass and run reds in the center lanes.

I would support a streetcar on Sandy only if it were a median separated design with its own ROW (similar to Interstate). During peak hours Interstate is fairly safe because 1) signtlines are not blocked adjacent to the sidewalk 2) one lane of traffic regulates the max speed 3) pedestrians crossing distance is much shorter. Otherwise, its addition would likely make the street less safe for pedestrians, and make it mostly useless as a means of transportation as the design in DC has become.
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2017, 5:15 AM
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I wanted to give my perspective on the design difference between the DC streetcar and a potential for design on Sandy/Broadway. I am a little worried Portland will make the same mistakes.

In DC the streetcar was added to a 4 lane road + parking (H Street NE) without dedicated lanes. Here:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Wa...=en&authuser=0. It also precluded any bicycle facilities much like when NW Lovejoy had considerations for further bike lanes halted when the streetcar was put in. This is a heavily cycled area of town.

Sandy is a very similar space to H Street NE prior to the massive infrastructure investments that have taken place in the last decade. Both are car-centric designs with a potential for large numbers of cyclists. Because it is a heavily traveled bus and streetcar route, as well as a restaurant destination, H st consistently looks like one of those traffic games where no one can move. Sightlines for pedestrians are often attenuated, making crossing hazardous as cars often pass and run reds in the center lanes.

I would support a streetcar on Sandy only if it were a median separated design with its own ROW (similar to Interstate). During peak hours Interstate is fairly safe because 1) signtlines are not blocked adjacent to the sidewalk 2) one lane of traffic regulates the max speed 3) pedestrians crossing distance is much shorter. Otherwise, its addition would likely make the street less safe for pedestrians, and make it mostly useless as a means of transportation as the design in DC has become.
Speaking of issues with the streetcar, I think the streetcar line along MLK/Grand would be more effective if the lane the streetcar ran in was turned into a turning lane for cars to prevent any build up of traffic issues that can easily cause the streetcar to get delayed. My guess is something like this would also be needed for a streetcar line that might run up Sandy.
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Old Posted Aug 23, 2017, 7:14 PM
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Streetcar Planning and Projects

Since beginning service in 2001, Portland Streetcar has grown steadily into the largest modern streetcar system in the United States. Today, Portland Streetcar provides over 15,000 rides each weekday; that's nearly 5 million rides each year, and over 50 million rides since the system opened.

As our ridership increases, we continue to look for opportunities to improve and expand service.

Better service means changes in three important areas:
  1. Service Improvements: Additional trains and more frequent service
  2. Trackway Changes: New switches, turnbacks or relocation of Streetcar tracks
  3. Expansion to New Neighborhoods: Streetcar tracks in new communities to support growth in key corridors, consistent with adopted plans

Service Improvements

Improving the frequency of trains is the top priority for managing expected growth in ridership and overcrowding on the system today. In addition to more frequent trains, we're working to add service in the early morning hours to better support the growing number of users who rely on Streetcar to get to and from work.

Expected service improvements over the next few years include:
  1. Added AM Peak service on the NS Line to support commuters in NW Portland and the South Waterfront (scheduled for September 2017).
  2. Improved frequency of trains on all lines from 15 minutes, to 12 minutes by 2020, and 10 minutes by 2025.

Each step will require investment in new streetcars, operators and mechanics, and eventually the construction of a new maintenance facility to support the growing fleet.

Portland Streetcar is working to buy five additional streetcars in Fall 2017, with the goal of adding the streetcars to the existing fleet by late 2019 or early 2020.

Trackway Changes

A few minor changes to our existing track are planned to better serve riders. Many of the changes are related to projects occurring around our system as roads are rebuilt, buildings are constructed, or other opportunities for more efficient routes arise.

Some known changes on the horizon include:
  • Construction of a new turnback at NE Grand & NE Weidler, allowing B Loop streetcars to turn around and continue service as A Loop streetcars during Broadway Bridge lifts, closures, or other special events.
  • Traffic control changes on NE Grand from E Burnside to NE Davis to improve the reliability on the #6 bus and the B Loop during PM Peak hours.
  • Reconstruction of the OHSU Plaza station and relocation of tracks at the base of the Aerial Tram during construction of the new SW Bond Ave, planned for 2019 or 2020.
  • Extension of streetcar tracks on SW Moody Ave to SW Hamilton Ct., coinciding with the construction of Moody south of SW Bancroft on Willamette Shoreline Trolley property.
  • Replacement of aging shelters and stations with more modern design and customer amenities.

Expansion to New Neighborhoods

Streetcar makes our city a better place to live by complementing transit options like buses and light rail and connecting Portlanders to centers of employment, education, and housing.

City Plans include several possibilities for new lines in areas likely to experience significant growth over the next 20 years. New routes will tie-in to the existing streetcar system and provide direct access to essential services such as education, health care, and jobs.

The priority expansions for Streetcar include new connections to Montgomery Park in NW Portland and to Hollywood Town Center in NE Portland. Streetcar is currently working with neighborhood and community groups to better understand how to meet community needs and address critical issues such as impacts to bus service, parking, housing supply, and affordability.

To request a presentation for your community, or to learn more about the projects please email or call Dan Bower, Executive Director of Portland Streetcar, Inc. at dan.bower@portlandstreetcar.org or 503-869-0820.
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Old Posted Aug 28, 2017, 12:43 PM
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They dont really touch on it, but Portland may be purchasing 3 cars from Seattle (this was talked about when I was there last year) and would likely occur when Seattle opens its center city line with new cars. They'd be the Inekon (008-010) cars.

The big problem with buying 5 cars is where do you put them? There might have been capacity for 3 additional cars, but 5 is pushing it. Either need a new shop or some additional storage track somewhere. There had been talk (rumors) of putting a shop somewhere on the east side which would be convenient.

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They dont really touch on it, but Portland may be purchasing 3 cars from Seattle (this was talked about when I was there last year) and would likely occur when Seattle opens its center city line with new cars. They'd be the Inekon (008-010) cars.

The big problem with buying 5 cars is where do you put them? There might have been capacity for 3 additional cars, but 5 is pushing it. Either need a new shop or some additional storage track somewhere. There had been talk (rumors) of putting a shop somewhere on the east side which would be convenient.

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It would be nice if the old trolley barn under I-5 by the Moda Center could be used for something like this.

There are still two more blocks under the 405 ramps that could be used for vehicle storage and/or expansion of the maintenance facilities.
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It would be nice if the old trolley barn under I-5 by the Moda Center could be used for something like this.

There are still two more blocks under the 405 ramps that could be used for vehicle storage and/or expansion of the maintenance facilities.
Yeah I worked there for 2 years.

Working under a freeway.... not so much fun.
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Portland will buy 2 streetcars for $10 million, with potential plans for more
Updated 4:24 PM; Posted 3:14 PM
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Portland approved a $10 million plan Wednesday to buy two streetcars from a Pennsylvania-based company with the option to later buy additional vehicles.

The City Council unanimously approved the deal with Brookville Equipment Corp., a company from the town of the same name 80 miles northeast of Pittsburgh. Portland is piggybacking on an agreement between Sound Transit, the Seattle metro area's transit agency, and the company in Brookville.

The streetcars are expected to arrive in 2020 and will allow the city to increase streetcar frequency on its loop connecting downtown and the Central Eastside.

Dan Bower, Portland Streetcar Inc.'s executive director, said the vehicles are also crucial because seven of the city's existing streetcars are 17 years old.

"We're anticipating that we're going to have to do some repairs," Bower said in an interview, "Just to maintain existing service, we need more cars."

Portland has 17 streetcars, all but three of which are used every day on routes stretching from Northwest Portland to South Waterfront and the Central Eastside.
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I would be nice if this read Portland plans to buy two new streetcars and possibly more as new streetcar lines are being planned. It would be nice to see the streetcar become a legitimate urban rail system for the city.
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From the Oregonian article about the MLB potential stadium sites, there was this nugget.

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Major League Baseball backers offer to buy two close-in Portland sites for stadium
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And, there may be a conflicting plan for the Esco property. Backers envision it as a key piece of a separate project percolating inside City Hall to expand the Portland streetcar service in Northwest Portland.

The Transportation Bureau requested $370,000 in the upcoming budget to explore a streetcar expansion in Northwest Portland, and Portland Streetcar Inc. is working with Esco owners and other landowners on a concept to extend a streetcar line through the neighborhood.

Streetcar director Dan Bower said thus far, he's had no discussion with any of the property owners about a baseball stadium, though the sport has been "tangential" to conversations because the Esco site was once home to a baseball stadium.

Bower said the streetcar extension would be roughly 2.4 miles and current cost estimates put the project at $80 million. A proposed loop route would go up Northwest 18th and 19th Avenue then head west on Northwest York and Wilson Streets, Bower said, with the loop connecting at Montgomery Park. That plan would call for extending York Street through the Esco site.
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Montgomery Park and Hollywood District streetcar? Portland lands $1.1 million federal grant
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The Portland Streetcar received a $1.1 million grant from the Federal Transit Administration this week to speed up plans on a proposed 2.3-mile extension through Northwest Portland as well as a separate proposal to bring the transit line to the Hollywood District in Northeast Portland.

The federal government included Portland on a list of more than a dozen Transit-Oriented Development planning projects to receive grants this year. Metro, the regional government, submitted the application.

The money means the transit project has already caught the federal government’s eye even before a route is finalized. Portland City Council approved $370,000 this year to study the best route for the estimated $80 million extension. That work is ongoing.
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Portland Streetcar development plan for NW.
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Looks good, I thought this was just going to be an expansion of a current line, didn't realize it would be a new line.
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Today 3:29 PM
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Portland, which led a national urban streetcar revival in the early 2000s, faces a slew of important and difficult questions about its own streetcar service’s future in coming years.

Planners are looking at a 2.3-mile extension through Northwest Portland to Montgomery Park. The city would need six additional streetcars to run on that new line.

There’s the potential for a massive disruption if the state transportation department moves forward with its more than $715 million to $795 million Rose Quarter freeway project.

“How are we going to manage your transit investment in that area through the construction period?” Dan Bower, Portland Streetcar Inc’s executive director asked the City Council Wednesday, saying that would be “an important conversation.”
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