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I wonder what format they will go with. All the mainstream Genres have stations already in the market.
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I just scanned the QR code from the image below with my cellphone and it worked.



So, if anyone wants to show their support and vote in favour of the downtown events centre, please do so!!
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I just scanned the QR code from the image below with my cellphone and it worked.



So, if anyone wants to show their support and vote in favour of the downtown events centre, please do so!!
It does work did it myself just scan the barcode.Show your support ladies and gentleman whomever it may concern
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Done! let's get this project rolling!
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Just noticed this on the News91.9 website:

Poll shows majority support downtown events centre over refurbishing Coliseum

New centre preferred despite being considerably more costly
Jeannie MacGillivray
Aug 19, 2013 06:00:51 PM

MONCTON, N.B. - A recent poll shows more residents of Moncton would support construction of a new downtown entertainment centre than a refurbishment of the Coliseum, even though a new centre will cost considerably more.

The survey by Corporate Research Associates shows 59 per cent of those who took part said they were in favour of building a new centre.

29 per cent would rather see an overhaul of the Moncton Coliseum.

The estimated cost to build the new downtown centre is $105-million, while refurbishing the Coliseum would be in the 27 to 40-million dollar range.

CRA CEO Don Mills says the fact the majority support the vastly more costly option could be “an endorsement by citizens of the perceived importance of the proposed centre to the city’s future.”

Moncton city council voted in June to approve the purchase of the former Highfield Square property, the favoured location for the proposed centre.

Council is currently negotiating for a firm to build the centre.

11 per cent of those polled said they do not support either option, and 2 per cent didn’t know.

400 hundred people were surveyed.
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Happy to have been one of the 400 surveyed! They got my thumbs up!
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Well this morning I got myself a big cup of WTF news.

"Moncton May Preserve Old Highfield Square Facade".

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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-br...7ade-1.1855616

Seriously? There's absolutely nothing worth saving from HighField Sq. Facade? What facade? It's basically an ugly brick wall.

This kinda of thinking is again making me nervous.
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Absolutely agree. I have a little nostalgia for the old Eaton's part of the mall, but not to the point of throwing up yet another barrier to creative architectural design for a new downtown events centre.......

I wonder which city councillor proposed preserving the facade as part of the event centre?!?

Seriously, it makes you wonder if there isn't a faction on city council trying to sabotage the project!
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Seriously? There's absolutely nothing worth saving from HighField Sq. Facade? What facade? It's basically an ugly brick wall.
They seem to not even have an understanding of how much of the mall will remain. I wonder...

Perhaps, the intention for façade preservation may not be architectural worth; rather, this might be an attempt at shaving off some of the costs for the events centre by trying to fill as much of the existing space as possible.

I think Monctonians would be satisfied with a 65% new events centre. The point of having this infrastructure in the core is to stimulate the downtown's economy so that a pace of developments can evolve, which in turn will feed the city's tax revenues and help curb urban sprawl (which is exploding the city's debt). Since Moncton is already struggling with its bills, a discounted events centre may be rational.

On architectural merits, if they are attempting to save the façade for any other reason *but* cost savings -- then yes, this is silly. This building isn't a beauty.
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They seem to not even have an understanding of how much of the mall will remain. I wonder...

Perhaps, the intention for façade preservation may not be architectural worth; rather, this might be an attempt at shaving off some of the costs for the events centre by trying to fill as much of the existing space as possible.

I think Monctonians would be satisfied with a 65% new events centre. The point of having this infrastructure in the core is to stimulate the downtown's economy so that a pace of developments can evolve, which in turn will feed the city's tax revenues and help curb urban sprawl (which is exploding the city's debt). Since Moncton is already struggling with its bills, a discounted events centre may be rational.

On architectural merits, if they are attempting to save the façade for any other reason *but* cost savings -- then yes, this is silly. This building isn't a beauty.
It would also eliminate a portion of the clean up costs due to the soil being contaminated if they only tear down half the building. To me it seems like they are cutting corners before they've even begun
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from CBC:

Moncton won't give up on federal money for downtown centre

City's new strategy targets ACOA and Heritage Canada to help pay for $107-million complex
CBC News Posted: Oct 07, 2013 7:36 AM AT Last Updated: Oct 07, 2013 7:36 AM AT

Moncton's city manager says there may be federal money for a proposed downtown centre after all.

The city has been unsuccessful so far in its attempts to get money from Ottawa for its proposed convention centre and sports arena.

That has left Moncton city manager Jacques Dubé puzzling over how to pay for the $107-million project without any federal money.

"The federal government had clearly indicated right from the top, the prime minister said they were not going to invest one nickel in facilities that host major junior hockey or professional hockey," said Dubé.

But Dubé believes things have changed with a federal election looming in 2015.

"The federal government has sent us a different signal," said Dubé, who has been lobbying members of Parliament, and Rob Moore, the minister responsible for the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency.

"There's going to have to be a clever, ingenious way to allow the federal government to come into the project to allow the city to move ahead."

Dubé says one approach could be for the federal government to pay a larger share of capital projects such as sewer installation or community centre projects. That would allow Moncton to put the money it would have otherwise spent on those projects toward the downtown centre. Or perhaps Heritage Canada could provide funding for the cultural components of the project, said Dubé.

"We're going to have to play what I call a bit of a shell game with the federal government to allow them to fund items that the city would be budgeting in other areas of the city, for example, in order to free up cash for the downtown centre."

In the end, Dubé is hoping Ottawa will provide more than $20-million for the downtown centre.
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City's new strategy targets ACOA and Heritage Canada to help pay for $107-million complex

perhaps Heritage Canada could provide funding for the cultural components of the project, said Dubé. Dubé is hoping Ottawa will provide more than $20-million for the downtown centre.

So that's why they now claim that the front wall of HighField Square is historically imporant and has to be saved ... like a

The Highfield wall is a cultural component perhaps worth 20 million.
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excerpted from today's T&T:

The draft 2014 (city) capital budget, in actuality a set of projections spaced out over the next five years, will also contain one big line item spread out over 2015 and 2016, roughly $54 million toward the cost of the proposed downtown centre.

The project is not yet a given, however. The city still needs commitments of close to $30 million each from the provincial and federal governments before going ahead, as well as a response to a pending request for proposals that makes sound business sense.

In a related matter, council voted last night to hire the inter national fir m Deloitte to prepare the request for proposals for the downtown centre, work as the city's liaison with the proponents, and to evaluate what will be two proposals, thanks to a pre-screening process that narrowed qualified and interested developers down to two, a consortium led by EllisDon and one led by Bird Construction.

The city will pay $271,000 for the work, about three times what the city had initially estimated for such a service. Ward 3 Coun. Brian Hicks suggested the city get fir mer commitments from the other two levels of government before spending the money and asked if the scope of the consulting work and therefore the price tag could be reduced.

The mayor agreed the much higher consultancy fee was troubling, but added, 'this is a $105-million project. We only get one chance to get it right.'
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City of Moncton Press Release:

Moncton City Council proceeds with next step for proposed Downtown Centre

October 8, 2013

MONCTON – At this evening’s public session, Moncton City Council engaged the services of Deloitte to help prepare the final Request for Proposals (RFP) document that will formally define the Downtown Centre’s specifications. This document will be provided to the two proponents retained by the City in June 2013, EllisDon and Bird Construction.

NEXT STEPS AND TIMELINES

“I am pleased to see this crucial next step move forward,” said Moncton Mayor George LeBlanc. “We will be engaging stakeholders and residents in the coming weeks and months, as this is the critical stage in envisioning what the Downtown Centre could look like, and what amenities it could feature.”

Jacques Dubé, Moncton City Manager, added: “At this stage, retaining the assistance of experts to prepare the RFP is key in ensuring that both proponents understand the community’s needs and wants, and to ensure the project remains affordable. In terms of the timelines, we remain confident that by next September, the City Council will have two fully evaluated proposals from the short-listed development teams led by Bird Construction Ltd. and EllisDon which will allow City Council to award a contract or not.”

PUBLIC DIALOGUE PROCESS

The City of Moncton will be collaborating with Deloitte to obtain public and stakeholder feedback on the site’s amenities and services. Details on this process will be released following further discussions with the consultant. In the meantime, questions, comments and suggestions can also be submitted to info@moncton.ca.

So there you have it ladies and gentlemen, if you have any suggestions for what you want in the events centre, you can e-mail them to the address above. Your input is wanted.......
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I know that David posted this in the downtown thread, but I thought it belonged here:

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Moncton to expropriate Highfield Square


Deal to purchase former downtown shopping mall falls through

After an attempt to buy the old Highfield Square property failed, the City of Moncton has decided to expropriate the property in order to build a new entertainment and sports centre downtown.

The city had a deal in place with Warren Gate Investment Inc. to buy the former shopping mall and its land for $6-million dollars. However, the bank that holds the mortgage on the property also had to agree to the deal.

"Their bank, which I believe is the Bank of Scotland, had financial difficulty and I believe was taken over by the British government," said LeBlanc.

As a result, LeBlanc said the city will now expropriate the land. He doesn't anticipate a problem since the owner has already agreed to accept $6 million.

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Here is the T&T article on the expropriation issue:

Moncton to expropriate downtown property
Tuesday, November 05, 2013
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By: Brent Mazerolle

In a surprise development, the City of Moncton will now start expropriation proceedings to acquire the for mer Highfield Square property, which it voted to buy back in June.

The talk of expropriation of the land rather than a straightforward purchase only became public at last night's public meeting of Moncton city council, but the decision to expropriate if necessary was actually made by a unanimous vote of council at a private meeting on June 10.

That is not unusual, however. Land purchases and sales are one of the main items that municipal councils are allowed to conduct behind closed doors under the Municipalities Act, for reasons that are clear to anyone who has ever conducted any sort of business negotiation. The Act requires, however, that such agreements ultimately be known after the fact through a ratifying public vote of council. That public ratification of that decision to proceed with expropriation came last night.

In early 2012, the city entered into a six-month option agreement with Warren Gate Investments Inc. for the eventual acquisition of the property, which council had unanimously selected as its preferred site for a proposed downtown events centre. The option included several conditions, including a key one that Warren Gate, a large global land owner, secure the permission of its lenders.

'This became problematic for Warren Gate when its lender, the Bank of Scotland, I believe, ran into difficulties and had to be taken over by the British government,' Mayor George LeBlanc said last night. Once among the largest banks in the world, the Bank of Scotland was rescued by the British government amidst scandals and financial collapse in 2008. In the five years since the government stepped in, a certain level of chaos has continued, as a look at any current British newspaper will tell you.

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editorial from today's T&T:
http://22864.vws.magma.ca/index.php?&article_id=12086

Let's move on
Thursday, November 07, 2013
Times & Transcript

It is unfortunate that a misunderstanding between the Moncton Wildcats hockey team and the City of Moncton over improvements to the air conditioning system at the Moncton Coliseum has led to the team withdrawing its bid to host the 2015 Memorial Cup. It is the crowning event of the major junior hockey season in Canada and its loss represents a loss of prestige and 'branding' value for all of Metro Moncton. In drawing fans and media from all over Canada, the United States and Europe, the Memorial Cup also represents millions of dollars in spin-off benefits for area businesses, including the team, as well as for City coffers through tax revenue. But the mistake has been made, Mayor George LeBlanc has apologized for the misunderstanding and it's time to move on. By that, we mean it's time to move on from the Coliseum altogether.

The team had no choice but to withdraw its bid because in its present condition it does not meet the requirements of the Canadian Hockey League to host major events. In fact poor climate control in the Coliseum was the one black mark against the City's otherwise excellent hosting of this same event in 2006. That was the very event that prompted the CHL to stiffen its standards.

Clearly the building has outlived its usefulness for major events and so the dispute that concluded so unfortunately this week might well work out for the best, and for both parties. This loss is the clearest signal to date that the City of Moncton needs to look to the future, as quickly as possible, by building an events centre of the quality this community deserves. There is little point spending $2 million on air conditioning for the Coliseum when not just sports events but other entertainment events shy from it for a whole raft of shortcomings.

That money would best be used toward a new events centre; one of a quality that can attract the major events that make lots of money and ultimately, pay for the facility.

Councillors Brian Hicks, Daniel Bourgeois and Paul Pellerin, who have tended to vote against the events centre initiative, should take heed of this going forward.

personal note - The decision not to move forward with a bid for the 2015 Memorial Cup should put to rest any indecision on the part of certain councillors not to support a new events centre. The CHL has essentially condemned the coliseum. We also know that the World Men's Curling Championship will never return to the coliseum (too small and too hot and humid). There are virtually no concerts held at the coliseum any more as well (low ceiling, bad acoustics and too hot and humid). The writing is on the wall. The coliseum absolutely has to be replaced. The naysayers on council had better heed these ominous warnings or else the city of Moncton will forever be overlooked as a major events venue in Canada.

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I think this article in the T&T from earlier this week nicely encapsulates the course of events surrounding the Downtown Events Centre during the year 2013:

Downtown events centre took big step in 2013
Tuesday, December 31, 2013
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By: Brent Mazerolle
http://22864.vws.magma.ca/index.php?&article_id=12281

The idea of building a multi-purpose events centre in downtown Moncton has been around for years now, but 2013 was the year things got real.

True, it's still not clear where the millions of dollars to build it will come from or even how many millions will be needed, but Moncton city council demonstrated this year that it was serious about getting the project done in two key ways.

The first thing it did was narrow the field of potential partners down to two following a request for qualifications, but the biggest demonstration of council commitment was the vote to purchase of most of the former Highfield Square property in downtown Moncton.

Council voted 8-2 in June to spend roughly $6 million on the land. The City of Moncton expects to spend another $4 million to $5 million on demolition of the Highfield Square building, asbestos removal and addressing contamination of soil at the site. In the meantime, the city has had a full professional appraisal done valuing the property at $11 million, but the net value is about $6 million after cleanup and demolition.

In a surprise development, though, the City of Moncton will now start expropriation proceedings to acquire it. In early 2012, the city entered into a six-month option agreement with Warren Gate Investments Inc. for the eventual acquisition of the property. The option included several conditions, including a key one that Warren Gate, a large global landowner, secure the permission of its lenders.

The problem is Warren Gate's lender, the Bank of Scotland, ran into difficulties.

Once among the largest banks in the world, the Bank of Scotland was rescued by the British government amidst scandals and financial collapse in 2008. In the five years since the government stepped in, a certain level of chaos has continued.

Just as you can't sell a home you still owe money on without the approval of the lenders who hold your mortgage, so it is for a commercial transaction such as this one. Unfortunately, Warren Gate has apparently not been able to work with its troubled lender to satisfy the conditions of its agreement with Moncton.

With the City of Moncton about to issue a request for proposals on the downtown centre to two pre-selected development consortia who met the requirements of a preliminary request for qualifications last spring, the municipality has to put to rest the significant issue of where a centre would go. Therefore, the city has begun expropriation proceedings.

Meanwhile, council unanimously accepted a project schedule earlier this month that shifts around the order of steps a bit but does not alter the overall plan to issue the request for proposals by March 2014 and to select a successful proponent by the end of 2014 or beginning of 2015.

Once a proposal is selected, the negotiations between the successful proponent and the city would likely take until the end of 2014 or into early 2015. Assuming the latter, construction would start in the summer of 2016 and take about 18 months, bringing the city to New Year's of 2017. The city has hired the firm Deloitte as a professional consultant on the project, to help it through the process.

Also this year, a poll in August found Moncton residents seem to support the development of a new downtown sports and entertainment centre when given the choice between a new downtown centre or the refurbishment of the Moncton Coliseum.

The poll by Corporate Research Associates Inc. found six in 10 (59 per cent) of Moncton respondents said they support the development of a new downtown centre, while three in 10 (28 per cent) support the refurbishment of the Moncton Coliseum.

Meanwhile, 11 per cent said they don't support either development, while two per cent are unsure or did not offer an opinion.

The cost for the development of the centre was estimated to be approximately $105 million when the survey was done. Supporters believe the development could be an economic boost for the downtown area, while others believe the price tag is too high. The cost for the refurbishment of the Moncton Coliseum is estimated to be between $27 million and $40 million; however, some say there are few benefits to revamping a smaller facility that is outside the city centre. A renovation also comes with the problem of what to use in place of the Coliseum while it undergoes what could be a multi-year project.

The facility has two anchor tenants, the Moncton Wildcats junior hockey team and the Moncton Miracles basketball team, that would have to be accommodated, as well as the concerts and especially the numerous trade shows that take place there each year.

In another development, council heard the proposed centre would create hundreds of jobs and millions of dollars' worth of economic activity during construction, and then be an important catalyst for growth in the city's most critical neighbourhood for years to come.

Université de Moncton economist Pierre-Marcel Desjardins and economic development consultant David Campbell presented a pair of studies at a special public meeting of Moncton city council back in June, shortly before council voted to buy the Highfield Square land.

Desjardins focused on the more easily quantifiable impacts construction of a presumed $105.4-million project would have, while Campbell looked at the broader impacts and set the context.

That context is a bit troubling, as it turns out.

Campbell, noting that the downtown encompasses just 1.5 per cent of the city's land area but represents 14.4 per cent of the city's tax revenues, demonstrated how it is growing stagnant despite the more than 800 businesses and 18,000 people working there.

When he spoke in June, there was 350,000 square feet of vacant office space in downtown. The vacancy rate has risen from 6.6 per cent in 2011 to 13.5 per cent in 2013.

Meanwhile, the number of people living downtown dropped by 3.3 per cent between 2006 and 2011, even as the population of the city overall has grown almost eight per cent. That's likely because downtown residents are older than the average population. By contrast, Halifax's downtown grew almost 10 per cent despite its overall population declining in the same period.

Neither consultant suggested an events centre alone would bring more and younger residents downtown, but Campbell said it would be a catalyst to a vibrant downtown. He did note London, Ont., saw its downtown population grow 30 per cent after the Budweiser Gardens, and the other related elements of London's downtown revitalization strategy, were built.

'You have to look at the centre as part of a broader strategy for downtown,' Campbell said.'To think of it as a panacea is a big mistake.' Saying there was always going to be a risk in spending public funds to encourage private development, Campbell said if the city uses four of the 11 acres for the centre itself, private development on the other seven acres could pay the mortgage on the centre in increased property taxes.

He suggested that the development the centre would encourage over a threeto five-year period could create land valued at up to $200 per square foot, though he admitted that figure was probably a bit higher than was realistic.

Nevertheless, he said the actual figure would be far above the $10 per foot the land currently commands as surface parking in a city glutted with surface parking.

With the abandoned shopping mall at the western end of downtown actually having the potential of bringing down other property values in the area, there is risk both in doing something with the land and in doing nothing.

'You've grown 30 per cent since the Coliseum was built. That's pretty impressive,' Campbell said, comparing Moncton to a baby quickly outgrowing its diapers and needing to decide what it wants to be when it grows up.

Apologizing in advance for what he called 'hyperbole,' Campbell told council, 'You have to decide, are you a big Miramichi or a small Calgary?' Meanwhile, Desjardins said the scale of the project would have a significant economic impact both inside and outside the province when it came to construction, creating the equivalent of nearly 1,500 full-time jobs over its duration.

And while it is difficult for a layperson to grasp, Desjardins said the construction of a $105-million project would actually have $340 million in direct and indirect impacts here and in the rest of Canada.

And as Coun.-at-large Dawn Arnold first pointed out, Desjardins' findings that construction alone would generate $10.7 million for the federal government in taxes and another $6.2 million for provincial coffers helps make a case for their funding involvement.

Of course, none of this will happen if the city can't find the financial partners it needs for the estimated $100-million project, or if city council at some point decides to stop moving the process forward.
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after watching the IIHF World Junior Hockey championship from Sweeden i this IF the city goes ahead and builds the new event center/ arena that the city would be in perfect position to host such an event on its own. IE Event Center could host Pool A then Coliseum could host Pool B and other events in the Agrena and Red Ball four Ice could be the official practice facility.

But with that said all possibilities are endless IF the city builds it.
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I was thinking the exact same thing as I watched the preliminary games, all played before 1,000 or so Canadians who travelled over there, with almost no locals present and thus 3/4 of the seats were empty, which could have been 9/10ths if not for the Canadians who travelled to Sweden.
I have zero doubt that event would sell well in Moncton.
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