NCC Ottawa River South Shore Riverfront Park Plan [Kichi Zībī Mīkan] | In Progress - Page 9

Admiral Nelson · #**161** Posted **Sep 13, 2016, 3:23 AM**

Newsflash: Turkeys aren't voting for Christmas.

Capital Shaun · #**162** Posted **Sep 13, 2016, 4:04 PM**

"parkway users" = auto commuters.

No surprise they'd be against a road diet.

Uhuniau · #**163** Posted **Sep 13, 2016, 5:28 PM**

Funny: whenever transit users object to a downgrading of transit capacity, we get crapped on.

ElieB · #**164** Posted **Sep 13, 2016, 8:25 PM**

Anyone have a source on how fast traffic move along the SJAM during rush hours? I just saw some lady on twitter claiming it takes a half hour to go from parkdale to woodroffe, about 6kms... I have to wonder why drivers bother with the SJAM at all, let alone cling to it so stubbornly.

1overcosc · #**165** Posted **Sep 13, 2016, 10:44 PM**

At rush hours the Parkway is slow between downtown and Island Park, however that section is not planned to be narrowed.

West of Island Park, where the Parkway is proposed to be narrowed, the road is very underutilized and could probably retain free flow even with only one lane per direction.

J.OT13 · #**166** Posted **Oct 12, 2018, 1:06 AM**

Noticed we have a thread for the North Shore in Gatineau, but not the South Shore on the Ottawa side.

The National Capital Commission (NCC) Project calls for a roughly 8 kilometer linear park along the John A. Macdonald Parkway in Ottawa, between Britannia Bay and the War Museum.

This project came to be when in 2015, the City and NCC reached an agreement to bury part of the Confederation Line under a realigned parkway. The City was also asked to pay the NCC 30 million dollars in order to start the linear park project.

Here's the complete PDF of the plan, breaking it down section by section.

The park also needs a name and they are asking the public to submit their suggestions.

http://ncc-ccn.gc.ca/our-projects/ot...iverfront-park

rocketphish · #**167** Posted **Oct 12, 2018, 1:37 AM**

Much of this thread is devoted to this proposed park, and the the parkway that runs through it, though you wouldn't know it from the thread title:

http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=210329

zzptichka · #**168** Posted **Oct 12, 2018, 2:26 PM**

Definitely deserves its own thread.
Wonder how many decades before they begin implementing anything from this plan.

J.OT13 · #**169** Posted **Oct 12, 2018, 3:14 PM**

If discussion on the other thread mostly focuses on this project, we could merge them and re-name it for the "Ottawa River South Shore Riverfront Park Plan".

rocketphish · #**170** Posted **Oct 12, 2018, 4:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by J.OT13

If discussion on the other thread mostly focuses on this project, we could merge them and re-name it for the "Ottawa River South Shore Riverfront Park Plan".

Kitchissippi · #**171** Posted **Oct 12, 2018, 5:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by zzptichka

Definitely deserves its own thread.
Wonder how many decades before they begin implementing anything from this plan.

The first phase/section (2+ kms westward from Westboro beach) begins with the remediation that goes with the LRT western extension (tunnel/berm and relocation of that parkway stretch), so likely that gets done by 2023-24. I think parts of it will get rolled into the LRT contract. The rest I imagine will depend on future funding.

danishh · #**172** Posted **Oct 12, 2018, 7:48 PM**

any ideas on names? I was thinking William Commanda.

J.OT13 · #**173** Posted **Oct 12, 2018, 7:57 PM**

Considering it's along the Sir John A. Macdonald Parkway, I definitely think it should be named for an indigenous person (such as Commanda) or a word in the Algonquin language. That would be much more productive in balancing John A. than the current trend of taking down statues and re-naming building and public spaces.

Other options would be Kitchissippi or Adawe, the Algonquin name for the Ottawa River and the origin of the word "Ottawa" respectively.

CityTech · #**174** Posted **Oct 12, 2018, 11:19 PM**

Adawe is already heavily used by institutions in Ottawa and Kitchissippi has already been used as the name of a city council ward, so Commanda is probably the best bet to avoid confusion.

Buggys · #**175** Posted **Oct 13, 2018, 1:56 AM**

William Commanda sounds like William commands (like a variation of Simon says), or William commando :-D

J.OT13 · #**176** Posted **Oct 13, 2018, 2:34 AM**

How about Louis Riel. Other than a school, I don't think we have much named for him in Ottawa-Gatineau. It would be quite fitting to name the park after him since he was a Metis who fought against Macdonald himself for indigenous rights. This is the perfect metaphor in this modern debate.

I would reserve Commanda for a future indigenous centre on Vicoria Island.

Kitchissippi · #**177** Posted **Oct 13, 2018, 9:47 AM**

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Originally Posted by CityTech

Adawe is already heavily used by institutions in Ottawa and Kitchissippi has already been used as the name of a city council ward, so Commanda is probably the best bet to avoid confusion.

Well, the linear park does span the entire length of Kitchissippi ward. "Kichi Sibi" which is less anglicized could also be used.

Jamaican-Phoenix · #**178** Posted **Oct 19, 2018, 3:30 PM**

Considering the city and the location, how about "Baldwin-La Fontaine Capital Park"?

Robert Baldwin and Louis-Hippolyte La Fontaine were the predecessors or 'forefathers' of MacDonald and Cartier. While the latter are considered the foremost 'Fathers of Confederation', the former are considered to be the 'fathers of responsible government' which was instrumental in allowing Canada to eventually exist. Baldwin and La Fontaine both helped each other out in English and French Canada, and seeing how this park sits right on the border between the two regions and never get enough political name recognition for their immense contributions to the development of this country and its history, I think it would be the perfect name for the park.

OTownandDown · #**179** Posted **Jan 30, 2019, 7:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by ElieB

Anyone have a source on how fast traffic move along the SJAM during rush hours? I just saw some lady on twitter claiming it takes a half hour to go from parkdale to woodroffe, about 6kms... I have to wonder why drivers bother with the SJAM at all, let alone cling to it so stubbornly.

Its only slow because of the backlog at the bridge. All the Quebecois who insist on commuting back and forth each day causes a huge crush on both sides of the border. If there was a 1km long dedicated bridge lane in all three directions, the parkway could be completely reduced to 1 lane each direction.

I can't believe the Island Park community would be against the Thai embassy because of 'additional traffic' from 16 parking spaces, yet they're fine being a bumper-to-bumper traffic sewer of a parkway.

rocketphish · #**180** Posted **Apr 15, 2020, 5:44 PM**

The purpose of this site plan control application is to accommodate phase one of a two-phase development at 745 Sir John A. Macdonald Parkway and 234 Atlantis Avenue.

This first phase will develop a new parking lot on the Atlantis Yards portion of the project, containing approximately 90 vehicular parking spaces to service Westboro Beach and the surrounding open spaces and park network. The applicant is proposing driveway access from the Sir John A. MacDonald Parkway. This phase also includes servicing upgrades for the future expanded Westboro Beach pavilion.

Phase two, which will be reviewed at a later date, will accommodate the redevelopment of 745 Sir John A. Macdonald Parkway with a new beach pavilion incorporating the existing structures into the design. The two phases together will provide a total of 110 vehicular parking spaces, 4 accessible parking spaces plus one van accessible parking space, and 60 bicycle parking spaces.

Development application:
https://app01.ottawa.ca/postingplans...appId=__BR78OB

Siteplan:

Elevations: