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Old Posted Apr 16, 2020, 8:03 PM
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Amazon Fulfilment Centre YOW3 [222 Citigate Dr] | 30 m | 5 fl | Completed

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holy moly... massive
http://webcast.ottawa.ca/plan/All_Im...12-20-0038.PDF

Project Python is a light industrial building proposed on an expansive lot with the municipal address of 222 CitiGate Drive in the CitiGate Corporate Business Park at Fallowfield
Road and Highway 416.

The building itself has 5 levels with a total floor area of almost 250,000m2 [2.7 million square feet] and a height of close to 30m. A building of this scale, in this context, requires some careful and creative
design gestures to make it successful. We were inspired by the CitiGate Corporate Business Park design guidelines and chose to emulate the natural rock stratification prevalent in
the area, as seen clearly in the rock cuts along the 416. The full height precast concrete envelope of the building is similarly striated with alternate bands of light and dark gray
finish and deep reveals. The dark precast concrete base is redolent of the underlying bedrock.

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Old Posted Apr 16, 2020, 9:46 PM
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Created a separate thread... massive project.

from the TIA... not sure who the end user would be. only about 11,000 sq feet is office in Phase 1

The proposed development consists of a new prestige office and light industrial building, providing
approximately 2,700,000 square feet (250,000 square metres) of GFA. Approximately 2,035
vehicular parking spaces and approximately 50 loading docks are proposed. Access to the
proposed development will be from the extensions of CrossKeys Place, Systemhouse Street and
CitiGate Drive, with two all movement accesses from CrossKeys Place and two all movement
accesses from CitiGate Drive.

The proposed development is anticipated to be completed in one phase, with full occupancy by the
year 2021. A second phase will be part of a future Site Plan Application and includes an office
building on the northern portion of the site. It will not be included as part of the scope of this report.
This site is expected to operate with two shifts with approximately 590 employees on site during
each shift during the off-peak season and approximately 840 employees on site during each shift
during the peak season. The peak season for this site is anticipated to occur from October to
January, and the off-peak season from February to September. For the purpose of this report, the
total traffic analysis will include the site traffic for the peak season.

Ottawa's zoning by-law

Light industrial use means;

-the manufacture from previously prepared materials of finished parts or finished products;
-factory or assembly-line processes that involve the manufacture, processing, assembly or packaging of finished parts or finished products made from previously prepared materials; or
-the repair or servicing of such products. (utilisation d’industrie légère) (By-law 2010-237)
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Shopify fulfillment ?
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Project Python is a light industrial building proposed on an expansive lot with the municipal address of 222 CitiGate Drive in the CitiGate Corporate Business Park at Fallowfield
Road and Highway 416.

The building itself has 5 levels with a total floor area of almost 250,000m2 and a height of close to 30m. A building of this scale, in this context, requires some careful and creative
design gestures to make it successful. We were inspired by the CitiGate Corporate Business Park design guidelines and chose to emulate the natural rock stratification prevalent in
the area, as seen clearly in the rock cuts along the 416. The full height precast concrete envelope of the building is similarly striated with alternate bands of light and dark gray
finish and deep reveals. The dark precast concrete base is redolent of the underlying bedrock.

The impressive scale of the building is seemingly reduced by articulating the facades with vertical projections that enclose stair and elevator shafts and other service spaces
relevant to the process within. These are accentuated in dark gray to further enhance the articulation, and stair towers and break rooms are fully glazed both to provide
transparency from the exterior and to provide daylight to the spaces where it is not limited by the operational requirements.

The prestige office component on the ground floor is fully glazed and broken up by brightly coloured canopies that relate to the entrances and the large cafeteria, thereby
providing a warm and inviting presence at the pedestrian scale.

Architect: GKC Architects


Development application:
https://app01.ottawa.ca/postingplans...appId=__BRDCZY

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I find the presence of a guard house at the rear parking entrance, and double- and triple-stacked parking spaces at the rear to be curious. This isn't your average distribution centre. Vehicle assembly and storage? (wouldn't that be nice). Delivery truck storage?

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That's absolutely bonkers. This would be over twice the size of the next largest buildings in Ottawa like Rideau Centre, Amazon Fulfillment, Place Bell, etc.
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I find the presence of a guard house at the rear parking entrance, and double- and triple-stacked parking spaces at the rear to be curious. This isn't your average distribution centre. Vehicle assembly and storage? (wouldn't that be nice). Delivery truck storage?
The transportation study does say "The peak season for this site is anticipated to occur from October to January, and the off-peak season from February to September," which is consistent with an e-commerce distribution facility.
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I find the presence of a guard house at the rear parking entrance, and double- and triple-stacked parking spaces at the rear to be curious. This isn't your average distribution centre. Vehicle assembly and storage? (wouldn't that be nice). Delivery truck storage?
Yes, also it doesn't have large storage areas for trucks/trailers like a typical distribution centre. Traffic study says 50% of heavy traffic going north to 417, 50% south towards 401.
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The shipping and receiving side screams local delivery. Very little trailer storage (unlike say the Walmart centre in Cornwall that supplies stores).

The flow here is transports drop off and leave empty. Small local delivery vehicles (think Sprinter Van) leave and make home deliveries. The stacked parking stalls would be fine for storing a fleet of vans.
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Looks like Broccolini is the purchaser.
Python GP Inc created March 2, 2020. All the directors are from Broccolini so no hint on the end user.

https://www.ic.gc.ca/app/scr/cc/Corp...pNmbr=&bsNmbr=

Python is also a programming language

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Looks like Broccolini is the purchaser.
Python GP Inc created March 2, 2020. All the directors are from Broccolini so no hint on the end user.

https://www.ic.gc.ca/app/scr/cc/Corp...pNmbr=&bsNmbr=

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Good sleuthing. I think you've nailed it as a Broccolini project. This one could raise traffic complaints from the nearby minivan residents.
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Good sleuthing. I think you've nailed it as a Broccolini project. This one could raise traffic complaints from the nearby minivan residents.
This totally makes sense and I was suspicious about Broccolini involvement by the project name. North Gower is Viper Industrial warehouse, now Barrhaven is Python Project. I suppose the next one will be cobra? Are these snakes all indigenous to the "Amazon" jungle? The Viper project went to the LPAT. Maybe their is a client who is impatient so the Python project is the result and Viper will become dead.
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Some articles on multi-storey distribution centre/industrial buildings, smaller automated vehicles for last-mile delivery. With Ottawa becoming an automated vehicle hub, this might be a great spot for experimenting, if this is actually Shopify.

https://delawarebusinesstimes.com/ne...logisticenter/
https://renx.ca/multi-storey-industr...spects-canada/
https://www.mckinsey.com/~/media/mck...last_mile.ashx
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A newspaper reporter did point out the building has a few environmental features that Shopify seems to like in it's facilities.

The traffic plan mentions 24 hours a day operation split into 2 shifts. 590 employees per shift February to September and 840 employees per shift October to January. The shift changes are between 6-7 AM and 5:30-6:30PM.
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Shopify bought warehouse automation tech company 6 River Systems in Q42019

The site plan legend indicates the orange panels here are actually green...


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Some articles on multi-storey distribution centre/industrial buildings, smaller automated vehicles for last-mile delivery. With Ottawa becoming an automated vehicle hub, this might be a great spot for experimenting, if this is actually Shopify.

https://delawarebusinesstimes.com/ne...logisticenter/
https://renx.ca/multi-storey-industr...spects-canada/
https://www.mckinsey.com/~/media/mck...last_mile.ashx
Ottawa might be a great place for developing automated vehicles because of our tech industry but it's definitely not a great place for testing them. 6 months of the year we have potential for inclement weather in which an automated vehicle can not operate. The cameras and sensors they rely upon don't work when they are covered in road grime, ice, slush, snow, etc.
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Ottawa might be a great place for developing automated vehicles because of our tech industry but it's definitely not a great place for testing them. 6 months of the year we have potential for inclement weather in which an automated vehicle can not operate. The cameras and sensors they rely upon don't work when they are covered in road grime, ice, slush, snow, etc.
That might actually make Ottawa ideal. Sort of like Iqaluit gets all the large jets from winter testing.

A large automated vehicle test facility has been setup at Woodroffe and West Hunt Club, along with a public road test track in Kanata.

https://www.investottawa.ca/ottawal5/
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Ottawa might be a great place for developing automated vehicles because of our tech industry but it's definitely not a great place for testing them. 6 months of the year we have potential for inclement weather in which an automated vehicle can not operate. The cameras and sensors they rely upon don't work when they are covered in road grime, ice, slush, snow, etc.
Isn't that what would make Ottawa great? What's the use for automated cars if they can't drive in snow, ice etc... that's the ultimate challenge with automated cars, and it's not like they can do that in California
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Isn't that what would make Ottawa great? What's the use for automated cars if they can't drive in snow, ice etc... that's the ultimate challenge with automated cars, and it's not like they can do that in California
You know, that is an very good point. Ottawa has extremely varied weather conditions, perhaps more so than any other city with a highly developed high tech industry. I have been looking at it with the mentality that automated cars simply wouldn't work in our climate for six months of the year, but maybe the plan for developing automated cars in Ottawa is to figure out HOW to make them work in bad climates.
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