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Old Posted Dec 31, 2020, 4:40 PM
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Why does this look so damn cheap? Are they planning on ripping it up after it gets torn to shreds during the construction process? Honestly can anyone say this looks "good"? Compare to a streetscape you'd see in a brand new urban zone in Europe or Asia. This looks like a mall access road.
Keep in mind that it also may look kinda lumpy because of the raised "speed tables" designed to calm traffic.
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Which are kinda lame outside of residential side-streets I might add.
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The general lumpiness is puzzling to me. I assume it's done for reasons of drainage since the speed tables mess up the flow of water in the gutters, but the result is pretty janky looking. They could have hidden this pretty well if they kept the top of the curb level, but instead the curb line jumps up and down following the pavement. God forbid somebody's car doors scrape on the curb...
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The general lumpiness is puzzling to me. I assume it's done for reasons of drainage since the speed tables mess up the flow of water in the gutters, but the result is pretty janky looking. They could have hidden this pretty well if they kept the top of the curb level, but instead the curb line jumps up and down following the pavement. God forbid somebody's car doors scrape on the curb...
It’s the perspective of that last photo, the site is like a half mile long almost, 3 1ft humps ain’t gonna be noticeable
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Which are kinda lame outside of residential side-streets I might add.
They're necessary to keep this from becoming a drag racing strip. And I'll endorse any measure that discourages driving. The planet is dying.
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It’s the perspective of that last photo, the site is like a half mile long almost, 3 1ft humps ain’t gonna be noticeable
Eh, its kinda shit though. Its possible to grade this properly. They just didnt.

I would tell them to tear it up and try again. On their own dime.
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The road looks fine, but it should’ve been straight and flat (where possible), and just like all of the other major downtown streets. It was designed like some sort of road through a subdivision in Streamwood or something
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The general lumpiness is puzzling to me. I assume it's done for reasons of drainage since the speed tables mess up the flow of water in the gutters, but the result is pretty janky looking. They could have hidden this pretty well if they kept the top of the curb level, but instead the curb line jumps up and down following the pavement. God forbid somebody's car doors scrape on the curb...
So, you're describing every road in Chicago?
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Old Posted Jan 9, 2021, 4:09 PM
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First bridge girder lifted!


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^nice catch. how may sections to the bridge? will the sections take longer than 1 day to put in place?
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Unfortunately I think only single track (so two girders). It doesn't even look like the abutments are wide enough for a second track in the future.
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This part of the SCAL has been unused since April (the bridge has been up). So haste is not especially needed.
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Unfortunately I think only single track (so two girders). It doesn't even look like the abutments are wide enough for a second track in the future.
Yes that northern track will be needed if the West Loop Transit is ever built so Intercity train can sweep right into Metra/Amtrak yards and then down the tunnel to the west side of CUS under Canal.
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After looking at it again it does look like the abutment can fit two tracks if CN doesn’t insist on a ridiculous track center (UP did this on the new North Line bridges).

I assume if they ever decide to build a link from SCAL into Union Station somehow, they will refurbish the north bridge and build another overpass over Wells. Just need to make sure the DPI is built with a decent setback from the tracks.
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I like that abutment formwork design... very euro.
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^ Or suburban Dallas. But at least they tried...

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