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Old Posted Nov 14, 2020, 9:47 AM
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but it's only 300K people because of an arbitrary boundary! that's the whole point. if you actually make an attempt to compare like populations/urban areas then St. Louis' rate drops well below Tijuana or Juarez. if you include half of St. Louis County you get a much more equitable population/urban area comparison, with <300 homicides for STL versus 1.4 and 2.5 THOUSAND for Juarez and Tijuana, respectively. it's not even close. sorry to disappoint. that's not "spinning." it's just a more honest comparison.

you can find out all about St. Louis' anti-crime and community initiatives through Google. addressing decades of concentrated poverty, disinvestment, and population loss takes a long f*cking time.
But there are homicides in St. Louis County too. In 2019, there were 65, for instance. Let's say city+county reaches 400 this year. That's still a 30/100,000 murder rate.

São Paulo, for instance, stamds at 7/100,000 and it's far from having a safe reputation amongst its inhabitants.
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Old Posted Nov 14, 2020, 6:40 PM
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Wonder how much of the homicide rate increase this year is due to cops not wanting to deal with certain neighborhoods as to not get fired or jailed for having to shoot somebody that is trying to kill them?
I believe the likeliest culprit is the disruption to organized crime caused by COVID. Take drug trafficking for example: Supply's been limited by international travel restrictions while demand's been limited by the poor economy, leaving criminal organizations to fight for pieces of an increasingly smaller pie.
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Old Posted Nov 14, 2020, 9:17 PM
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And when you consider how even a high murder rate reflects the rate in both good and bad areas of a city (the good areas bring it down a bit), one can imagine just how scary the bad parts can be.
Exactly, there are parts of Chicago, St Louis, Baltimore, Memphis, etc that are downright scary. As in if you stumble into these areas you will almost assuredly either be robbed or killed. Most people would generally have no reason to be in these areas but you feel for the good people stuck there.
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Old Posted Nov 14, 2020, 9:58 PM
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Exactly, there are parts of Chicago, St Louis, Baltimore, Memphis, etc that are downright scary. As in if you stumble into these areas you will almost assuredly either be robbed or killed. Most people would generally have no reason to be in these areas but you feel for the good people stuck there.
That's not even true really...
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Old Posted Nov 14, 2020, 10:03 PM
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there are parts of Chicago...... if you stumble into these areas you will almost assuredly either be robbed or killed.
that's some pretty wild hyperbole.

unless you're involved in the gang world/drug trade, you chances of being shot anywhere in chicago (even in the most violent neighborhoods) are actually pretty small.

not zero, mind you, but if you just happened to take a stroll down north avenue in austin this afternoon, it is nowhere remotely close to being likely that you would be shot.
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Old Posted Nov 14, 2020, 10:36 PM
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that's some pretty wild hyperbole.

unless you're involved in the gang world/drug trade, you chances of being shot anywhere in chicago (even in the most violent neighborhoods) are actually pretty small.

not zero, mind you, but if you just happened to take a stroll down north avenue in austin this afternoon, it is nowhere remotely close to being likely that you would be shot.
On a side-note: Any statistics on how many innocent people are killed by stray bullets or by mistake in Chicago?

I agree that just comparing city-murder rates per capita is not the way to go with most american cities because of the segregation between inner cities and suburbs.
Perhaps murders/population of urban area is a better indicator? It doesnt consider invisible city limits.
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Old Posted Nov 14, 2020, 11:14 PM
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On a side-note: Any statistics on how many innocent people are killed by stray bullets or by mistake in Chicago?
I don't know of any such stats being tracked anywhere.

Also, there are different degrees of "innocence".

Suffice it to say that it does tragically happen from time to time, but the lion's share of chicago's homicide victims are killed by people who intend to kill them.
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Ottawa, Ontario, Canada has 9 so far this year for 1 million people.

The metro area has about 1.4 million people, with most of the extra population in my city of Gatineau, Québec. We have 2 murders this year so far.

So about a dozen murders for the entire metro area.
I was wrong. Gatineau only had its 2nd last night.

Fairly close to my place. Five minute drive.
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Old Posted Nov 15, 2020, 12:32 AM
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that's some pretty wild hyperbole.

unless you're involved in the gang world/drug trade, you chances of being shot anywhere in chicago (even in the most violent neighborhoods) are actually pretty small.

not zero, mind you, but if you just happened to take a stroll down north avenue in austin this afternoon, it is nowhere remotely close to being likely that you would be shot.
I don't doubt you in the least.

But I nonetheless wish to share an anecdote (which is, of course, not evidence of anything).

When I was a not yet a teen (mid/late 80s), my dad and I did a road trip around the Great Lakes. (hitting Detroit, Chicago, Milwaukee and Minneapolis on the U.S. side; then back to Toronto on the Canadian side.

Sooo, on day 2 as we crossed to Detroit.....the Border guard asked our business, dad explained the trip; the guard then asked if we were staying in Detroit (we were not, were taking a quick look-see, and then on to Chicago.).

He then furrowed his brow and asked our intended route to the interstate.

Dad didn't really know Detroit and had picked a line straight through some of the rough bits.

The guard then said; I'd consider 'this route' instead........but if you go that way, once you're out of downtown; and you'll know......don't stop for red lights; don't worry, there are no police there.

That made one hell of an impression.

He then wished us well and we went on our way.

Dad thought that was hyperbole too; but told me to roll up the windows.

We headed out towards Dearborn; and I must admit, I'd never seen anything like it to that point.

My first impression was actually by the Fox Theatre, which is right downtown and looked lovely with people nicely dressed lining up to go inside.

But in a parking lot right opposite there were literally dozens of police, some in riot gear.............

We headed along and the nice buildings vanished in favour of factories literally collapsing, and folks standing around barrels with fires in them.

It was other-worldly, not in a good way, to a kid from Toronto.

I still remember, even when we got to Dearborn, that we passed a McDs close to or opposite one of the Ford plant buildings.......

It had jail bars on it.......and it closed at 7pm.

At that point I remember asking Dad to find the highway a bit quicker.

Its quite likely we were entirely safe..........or mostly anyway.

But it certainly didn't feel that way then.
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Exactly, there are parts of Chicago, St Louis, Baltimore, Memphis, etc that are downright scary. As in if you stumble into these areas you will almost assuredly either be robbed or killed. Most people would generally have no reason to be in these areas but you feel for the good people stuck there.
That isn't true though.

I am doing a complete street project in Austin in Chicago. It's one of the worst neighborhoods in Chicago. I've been on the ground(Chicago Avenue) three times, for probably over 4 hours in total. Besides a crackhead woman grabbing my arm in an aggressive manner and groups of men staring at me and my friends for an odd amount of time, I've had no issues. In fact, when I have talked to people they have been exceedingly nice. In many cases, they start the conversation up.

They might think we are a city crew or something, I don't know. But no issues.

This isn't to take away from the extremely real danger people face there, but its not automatic death by going to these places.
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That isn't true though.

I am doing a complete street project in Austin in Chicago. It's one of the worst neighborhoods in Chicago. I've been on the ground(Chicago Avenue) three times, for probably over 4 hours in total. Besides a crackhead woman grabbing my arm in an aggressive manner and groups of men staring at me and my friends for an odd amount of time, I've had no issues. In fact, when I have talked to people they have been exceedingly nice. In many cases, they start the conversation up.

They might think we are a city crew or something, I don't know. But no issues.

This isn't to take away from the extremely real danger people face there, but its not automatic death by going to these places.
Yeah, if you're not part of "the game" you're not really in danger unless you find your way into to a stray bullet. Which can and does happen, but it's not that likely. I've never had any trouble walking or biking through the Washington Park neighborhood, which statistically is one of the most dangerous. That said, if it's late at night I'll take the bus rather than walk/bike to the train there, even though it is probably safer than it feels.
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Yeah, if you're not part of "the game" you're not really in danger unless you find your way into to a stray bullet. Which can and does happen, but it's not that likely. I've never had any trouble walking or biking through the Washington Park neighborhood, which statistically is one of the most dangerous. That said, if it's late at night I'll take the bus rather than walk/bike to the train there, even though it is probably safer than it feels.
I see what you are saying, but does it also apply to young black men?
I've heard plenty of stories of people been mixed up for someone else, or shot at for affiliation for example.

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I see what you are saying, but does it also apply to young black men?
I've heard plenty of stories of people been mixed up for someone else, or shot at for affiliation for example.
Yes. Their chances of being shot are increased, no doubt. But it is far from an 100% chance of being shot by coming into these neighborhoods. Otherwise, Austin in Chicago would see thousands of murders a year.
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I guess I must just have some incredible knack for not being robbed or killed after spending nearly 4 years in a New Orleans neighborhood, over 2 years in a Rio de Janeiro neighborhood, 4 years in a NYC neighborhood, and 1 year in a Miami neighborhood, all of which might be considered "downright scary".

Amazing how most people who only stumble into these types of neighborhoods are "almost assuredly" robbed or killed !!
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I see what you are saying, but does it also apply to young black men?
I've heard plenty of stories of people been mixed up for someone else, or shot at for affiliation for example.
Yeah that's a good point. Also because CPD is much more likely to bother trying to solve some murders than others...
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2020 Austin Metro Murders

| Austin 43 | Travis Co. 52 | Bastrop Co. 1 | Caldwell Co. 2 | Hays Co. 7 | Williamson Co. 5 | Metro 67 |

Causes metrowide
Shooting - 50
Stabbing - 8
Strangled - 0
Suffocation - 0
Throwing (of child) - 0
Beating - 1
Vehicular homicide - 0
Blunt force trauma - 1
Sharp force trauma - 0
Unlisted cause - 8
Domestic terrorism - 0

Austin totals
Downtown - 3
Central Austin - 1
East Austin - 10
North Austin - 6
Northeast Austin - 8
Northwest Austin - 1
South Austin - 7
Southeast Austin - 7
Southwest Austin - 0
West Austin - 1

Victims
Male - 48
Female - 11
Unlisted - 5

| Jan 6 | Feb 6 | Mar 9 | Apr 4 | May 5 | Jun 9 | Jul 5 | Aug 6 | Sep 5 | Oct 6 | Nov 6 | Dec 1 |

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| Mon 7 | Tue 12 | Wed 7 | Thur 10 | Fri 9 | Sat 13 | Sun 9 |

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Murder cases
Code:
1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/4-people-stabbed-in-attack-on-south-congress/?fbclid=IwAR30os7QA-0IUpsC8RxheTAXJFZLOl-57LO51A44-3OB4uD2-0v2DnSCON0 - 1/3 - Austin stabbing

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/one-injured-in-east-austin-shooting/ - 1/11 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/police-looking-for-suspect-in-east-austin-stabbing/?fbclid=IwAR2f4m_Is2jKFsQRwsEiJwMUyAlxUREKRTiWk0utxcyHTrQzeQjJcfVg0f8 - 1/17 - Austin stabbing

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-5-0 - 1/19 - Austin blunt force trauma

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local-news/atcems-reporting-to-possible-east-austin-shooting-someone-possibly-dead/ - 1/20 - Austin shooting

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-4-0 - 1/23 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200202/2-dead-after-pflugerville-shooting-saturday-night-police-say?template=ampart - 2/1 - Pflugerville shooting

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-6-0 - 2/17 - Austin shooting

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-9-0 - 2/21 - Austin shooting

2 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/police-identify-third-suspect-in-northeast-austin-apartment-shooting/ - 2/25 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200305/police-arrest-made-in-georgetown-missing-man-case?template=ampart - 2/25 - Georgetown unlisted cause

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/williamson-county/round-rock-teen-arrested-in-connection-with-fatal-shooting-of-17-year-old/ - 3/3 - Round Rock shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/homicide-investigation-opened-after-male-victim-shot-dead-in-south-austin/ - 3/13 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/teen-shot-and-dropped-off-at-taylor-hospital-declared-dead-on-arrival-suspect-in-custody/ - 3/21 - Taylor shooting

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-11-0 - 3/22 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200325/man-dies-from-wounds-after-cedar-park-shooting-sunday?template=ampart - 3/25 - Cedar Park shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/apd-investigating-homicide-in-north-austin/ - 3/26 - Austin stabbing

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-13-0 - 3/27 - Austin body found with trauma

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200329/overnight-man-killed-woman-injured-in-north-austin-shooting - 3/29 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/travis-county/authorities-investigating-report-of-shots-fired-in-pflugerville/ - 3/31 - Pflugerville shooting

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-15-0 - 4/13 - Austin stabbing

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200427/suspect-in-manchaca-womans-death-also-found-dead-authorities-say?template=ampart - 4/16 - Manchaca shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/hays/san-marcos-police-urge-shelter-in-place-as-they-respond-to-incident/ - 4/18 - San Marcos shooting

1 dead - https://www.kvue.com/article/news/crime/downtown-austin-street-fight-turns-fatal/269-02712655-7a03-46a8-8a3f-2320a0966765 - 4/18 - Austin beating

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200520/update-suspect-in-custody-after-fatal-pflugerville-shooting?template=ampart - 5/19 - Pflugerville shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/bastrop-county/bastrop-county-sheriffs-office-investigating-homicide-outside-del-valle-grocery-store/ - 5/24 - Del Valle shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/travis-county/woman-pronounced-dead-at-scene-of-shooting-in-pflugerville/ - 5/26 - Pflugerville shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/man-dead-in-shooting-at-east-austin-apartment-complex/ - 5/28 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200917/man-charged-in-fatal-san-marcos-shooting-turns-himself-in-officials-say?template=ampart - 5/30 - San Marcos shooting

2 dead - https://www.kvue.com/article/news/crime/caldwell-county-community-heartbroken-shooting-victims-luling-cousins/269-fe416567-31dc-4d4c-b5be-2a4954eb40db?fbclid=IwAR1turRK-yslvb0e8a9cAuoOU0y6jCoSzkFJGbWjKCsKDchIwgkqS4Ue4es - 6/14 - Luling shooting

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200620/austin-police-respond-to-two-homicides-within-hours-of-each-other?template=ampart - 6/20 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200620/austin-police-respond-to-two-homicides-within-hours-of-each-other?template=ampart - 6/20 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200701/ice-cream-vendor-shot-in-north-austin-robbery-has-died-police-say?template=ampart - 6/23 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200806/2-arrested-in-connection-with-death-of-missing-round-rock-man-police-say?template=ampart - 6/24 - Body found - Travis County

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/suspect-arrested-in-connection-with-east-austin-homicide/ - 6/24 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/police-investigating-homicide-after-person-shot-dead-in-east-austin/ - 6/28 - Austin shooting

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-23-0 - 7/8 - Austin stabbing

1 dead - https://www.kvue.com/article/news/local/homcide-investigation-southeast-austin-wickersham/269-24ca5a01-c656-4a86-913d-24c46395ff19?fbclid=IwAR0YyjMxlhLLtz3hO2stCxQ4E9EdAMKcR37zX8-XQc2-12294WCmIWHaKag - 7/13 - Austin shooting

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-25-0 - 7/16 - Austin shooting

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-26-0 - 7/19 - Austin shooting 

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-27-1 - 7/20 - Austin shooting

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-29-0 - 8/18 - body found - Austin

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/police-one-person-shot-in-east-austin/ - 8/22 - Austin shooting

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-33-0 - 8/26 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/apd-investigating-fatal-shooting-in-downtown-austin/ - 8/27 - Austin shooting

2 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/deputies-man-2-children-found-dead-outside-san-marcos-home/ - 8/27 - Hays County shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/austin-police-investigating-death-in-south-austin/ - 9/4 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/apd-investigating-suspicious-death-in-south-austin-providing-more-details-at-9-a-m-briefing/ - 9/16 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200925/round-rock-police-investigating-manrsquos-stabbing-death - Round Rock stabbing - 9/25

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200930/teenager-killed-in-northeast-austin-shooting-after-apparent-drug-deal-police-say?template=ampart - Austin shooting - 9/29

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20201001/1-killed-in-pflugerville-shooting-wednesday-night-police-say - Pflugerville shooting - 9/30

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-37-0 - Austin shooting - 10/1

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/man-arrested-after-deadly-stabbing-at-austin-resource-center-for-the-homeless/ - 10/8 - Austin stabbing

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/homicide-investigation-launched-after-man-shot-dead-at-travis-county-apartment-complex/ - 10/18 - Pflugerville shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/1-person-killed-outside-of-east-austin-club-during-large-social-gathering-apd-says/ - 10/25 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/2-men-shot-1-killed-in-se-austin/ - 10/26 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/austin-police-investigate-homicide-in-north-austin-neighborhood/ - 10/30 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.kvue.com/article/news/local/hays-county/hays-county-kyle-texas-homicide-poco-loco-798-high-road-nov-2/269-de8f9276-333e-47fe-b47c-5a6b2ec13a1f - 11/2 - Kyle shooting 

1 dead - https://www.kvue.com/article/news/local/one-reportedly-killed-in-northwest-austin-robbery/269-addebc62-c284-4911-bc73-92058fe8bca2 - 11/6 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.kvue.com/article/news/crime/fatal-shooting-waffle-house-northeast-austin/269-5a012ed6-9885-49d2-b8e0-b1f74012d80b - 11/7 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/son-accused-of-killing-his-father-in-saturday-buda-homicide/?utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=facebook.com&fbclid=IwAR1xzjIDW3p3Qq7pkNFyLDHctbLwbsuFypQtgJOpADjnZjuG6HgobKSh7Wk - 11/21 - Buda shooting

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20201125/texas-state-football-player-killed-during-drug-deal-police-say?template=ampart - 11/24 - San Marcos shooting

2 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/police-identify-couple-found-dead-at-north-austin-apartment-in-possible-domestic-incident/ - Austin bodies found - 11/27

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/apd-investigates-suspicious-death-in-southeast-austin/ - Austin stabbing - 12/8
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1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/police-investigating-body-found-near-taco-shack-in-northwest-austin/ - 2/29 - body found - Austin

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200311/manrsquos-body-found-on-conveyor-belt-at-recycling-plant-in-travis-county?template=ampart - 3/11 - body found - Austin

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/body-found-outside-texas-workforce-commission/ - 4/6 - Austin body found

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200418/body-found-behind-h-e-b-store-in-round-rock-police-say?template=ampart - 4/18 - Round Rock - body found

1 dead - https://www.kvue.com/article/news/local/manchaca-body-found-homicide-investigation-janice-hughes/269-c1872dc9-e085-4752-a759-473ebc9ad239?fbclid=IwAR2Bs8NV2YaYn9T0LgjH5JoS2-g1_l7KB4e935ziMKvSTUOnI80oMgHh1Xs - 4/16 - Manchaca - body found

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200521/just-in-body-found-near-homeless-camp-in-northeastern-travis-county-officials-say?template=ampart - 5/21 - body found - Austin

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/austin-police-investigating-death-in-southeast-austin-neighborhood/?fbclid=IwAR1y85EHiYB1w1f0ooGd-vsfM0d1Kw5VE9kkeEsBENTdG-GTUbk4zInyf8U - 826 - Austin suspicious death

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200928/cedar-park-police-searching-for-information-on-man-found-dead - body found - Austin - 9/28

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/apd-finds-body-on-south-first-street-unknown-if-death-is-suspicious/ - 10/28

1 dead -  https://www.statesman.com/news/20201129/austin-police-body-found-sunday-in-bartholomew-park - 11/29 - Austin body found 

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/travis-county/body-found-on-recycle-center-conveyor-belt-in-south-travis-county/ - Austin body found - 12/3
Austin area population

City: 964,254 (July 1, 2018 estimate) - source: US Census Bureau
Travis County: 1,273,954 (July 1, 2019 estimate) - source: US Census Bureau
Metro: 2,227,083 (July 1, 2019 estimate) - source: US Census Bureau

Area - City: 297 square miles (2010) - US Census Bureau
Area - Metro: 4,285 square miles - Wikipedia
Area - Travis County: 1,023 square miles - Wikipedia

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Old Posted Nov 24, 2020, 4:50 AM
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Portland has 46 homicides, the highest since the early/mid-90's. Memphis had 282 homicides as of a few days ago:

https://www.wmcactionnews5.com/2020/...-broken-again/

That's an all-time record for them.
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12/11

Sweden (pop 10.2 mil)
Estimated total: 120 (42 deadly shootings)

Stockholm Metro (pop 2.3 mil)
Estimated total: 42 (21 deadly shootings)

Within City limits (Pop 960.000)
Estimated total: 24 (13 deadly shootings)

Stockholm and Sweden is up compared to last year.
The City of Malmö however (Pop 344k) has been averaging around 11 murders a year the past 10 years but is at just 3 YTD after several arrests of "key figures" within the criminal gangs in the city. Some good news in other words.
8/12

Sweden (pop 10.2 mil)
Estimated total: 124 (46 deadly shootings)

Stockholm Metro (pop 2.3 mil)
Estimated total: 45 (22 deadly shootings)

Within City limits (Pop 960.000)
Estimated total: 26 (13 deadly shootings)
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Sad to see what's happening this year. Seems a lot of cities in the US are up on homicides and violent crime.

Since I live in Philadelphia, I'm obviously most concerned about my city, and Philly has absolutely got to get this under control immediately...
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Youngstown ohio

Youngstown Ohio (27) population: 64,000

2019 (20) last year
1995 (68) all time high
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