Canadian skylines of the past

[Martin Mtl]

Originally Posted by esquire

^ It's kind of cool that it's still going, I can't imagine that there's much of an anglo population in Quebec City? Is it just a weekly paper now?

It’s a Montreal newspaper.

[J.OT13]

Eastern end of LeBreton Flats 2020 vs 1963, just before mass demolition. The modern apartment building seen in the old photograph is roughly in the middle of the modern image.





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[kwoldtimer]

The Queen Juliana apartment building is older than I realized. Late 1950s?

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

The Queen Juliana apartment building is older than I realized. Late 1950s?

According to Urbsite, 61-63. According to Wikipedia, 1962. It represented quite a shift for Ottawa.

http://urbsite.blogspot.com/2016/09/...partments.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architecture_of_Ottawa

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by Martin Mtl

It’s a Montreal newspaper.

I think there is some confusion on the part of some about these newspapers.

The Quebec Chronicle-Telegraph in Quebec City was first published as the Quebec Gazette. It is technically the same company and newspaper and so is considered the oldest newspaper in North America that is still being published today. I think there were newspapers published earlier in places like Halifax and Boston but they are no longer active. It is a weekly paper.

The Montreal Gazette is a completely different newspaper. It was originally a French paper called the Gazette littéraire de Montréal. Eventually it switched over to English. It is a daily paper.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

Eastern end of LeBreton Flats 2020 vs 1963, just before mass demolition. The modern apartment building seen in the old photograph is roughly in the middle of the modern image.



https://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/ad...-business-ones

Ah, the 1960s. Back in the good old days when Mom just would tell the kids to "go outside and play in the streets." I remember it well (and somewhat fondly).

[esquire]

Originally Posted by Acajack

I think there is some confusion on the part of some about these newspapers.

The Quebec Chronicle-Telegraph in Quebec City was first published as the Quebec Gazette. It is technically the same company and newspaper and so is considered the oldest newspaper in North America that is still being published today. I think there were newspapers published earlier in places like Halifax and Boston but they are no longer active. It is a weekly paper.

The Montreal Gazette is a completely different newspaper. It was originally a French paper called the Gazette littéraire de Montréal. Eventually it switched over to English. It is a daily paper.

Yeah, I was thinking of the Quebec Chronicle-Telegraph when I wrote my last post. I assume it's more of a weekly community paper than a source of hard news for the Quebec anglo community?

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by esquire

Yeah, I was thinking of the Quebec Chronicle-Telegraph when I wrote my last post. I assume it's more of a weekly community paper than a source of hard news for the Quebec anglo community?

Yeah, if you are an anglo in Quebec City your go-to newspaper in English will be the Montreal Gazette.

[Kilgore Trout]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Yeah, if you are an anglo in Quebec City your go-to newspaper in English will be the Montreal Gazette.

At the same time, there are so few Quebec City anglophones who are unilingual that even then, the Gazette might not be their main source of news. All of the born-and-raised Quebec City anglos I know speak French so well they can pass for francophones.

[Spocket]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

I hate the way Bud and Coors light are listed as "domestic" beers in the lousy menus of Boston Pizza, Montana's, Swiss Chalet, etc. They are American beers (well, only if one uses the term "beer" very loosely to allow for steer piss beer made from rice). Make no mistake, imbev is marginalizing true Canadian mainstream beer brands like Labatt Blue. Perhaps not a great loss, but I decry the creeping Americanization of Canada.

If it's produced in Canada, it's domestic. The other option is imported and since they make it in Canada, it makes no sense to list it as anything other than domestic. I don't disagree with the thrust of your post, however. You seem to have had some sort of rendering issue with that post as it crossed out "steer piss". Not sure why as I believe that that is the technical term for that stuff according to Canadian government guidelines.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by Kilgore Trout

At the same time, there are so few Quebec City anglophones who are unilingual that even then, the Gazette might not be their main source of news. All of the born-and-raised Quebec City anglos I know speak French so well they can pass for francophones.

The demand must be there. I remember doing one of those federal government sponsored official language summer programs in Trois Rivieres back in the mid 90s. Being the nerd that I am I would stop by a shop on Des Recollets after class to get a newspaper. Every day there were a handful of copies of the Montreal Gazette sitting there next to the Nouvelliste, J de M, La Presse, etc. and I'd buy one.

Deep in the Trois Rivieres suburbs someone other than me must have also been buying English newspapers, so you would think the same thing must be happening in Quebec.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by esquire

The demand must be there. I remember doing one of those federal government sponsored official language summer programs in Trois Rivieres back in the mid 90s. Being the nerd that I am I would stop by a shop on Des Recollets after class to get a newspaper. Every day there were a handful of copies of the Montreal Gazette sitting there next to the Nouvelliste, J de M, La Presse, etc. and I'd buy one.

Deep in the Trois Rivieres suburbs someone other than me must have also been buying English newspapers, so you would think the same thing must be happening in Quebec.

I'd agree. The Gazette might not be in every single dépanneur in the province, but it's not hard to find at all, even in the most francophone regions. (The one exception in my region of the Outaouais, where if they have English papers it's generally the Ottawa Citizen or Ottawa Sun they have. Though even so, the Montreal Gazette isn't that hard to find either. Any place that has more than a token selection of newspapers will have it.)

Note that in terms of "market", there is a smallish segment of the francophone population in Quebec that consumes anglo news media. Though it is more as an add-on to catch the pulse of the "other side" as opposed to their main go-to...

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Ah, the 1960s. Back in the good old days when Mom just would tell the kids to "go outside and play in the streets." I remember it well (and somewhat fondly).

We would be outside for hours. We hiked down nearby train tracks (!) or over to the golf course to look for balls. There were so many of us that we could organize team games/sports in the street where we grew up (CAR! ). Good times and, amazingly, we survived (although with the scars to tell the tale). I do not envy today's anxious, over-programmed children.

[MolsonExport]

Originally Posted by Spocket

If it's produced in Canada, it's domestic. The other option is imported and since they make it in Canada, it makes no sense to list it as anything other than domestic. I don't disagree with the thrust of your post, however. You seem to have had some sort of rendering issue with that post as it crossed out "steer piss". Not sure why as I believe that that is the technical term for that stuff according to Canadian government guidelines.

I do believe that Beck's and Stella are also brewed in Canada by Labatt (InBev) but never are they categorized as domestic. Also, Sapporo is brewed in Guelph by Sleeman's.

[MolsonExport]

Once upon a time QC was 40% Anglophone.

[Laceoflight]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

Once upon a time QC was 40% Anglophone.

Yeah. In 1844. Of course QC was ~38% anglo... 85 years after the anglos threw 15 000 bombs over the small town, after Wolfe ordered his friends Goreham and Scott to destroy every village from Lotbinière to La Pocatière, from Neuville to Baie-Saint-Paul, to burn every crop, to burn every barn and every house, forcing the remaining Canadiens to live in the woods for 2 years.... after QC officially underwent a massive immigration program for 3 decades, bringing at least 170k Scottish settlers to the port from 1815 to 1870... Of course QC was ~38% anglo. Good old days

At the last census, there were 1350 unilingual anglophones in QC city.

[phesto]

Vancouver, 1984:

gm_17503 Vancouver Harbour, VFD Fireboat No 2 1984 by CanadaGood G.Melle, on Flickr

gm_17502 Vancouver Harbour and Downtown, BC 1984 by CanadaGood G.Melle, on Flickr

East False Creek, Science World construction, Sept 1984, City of Vancouver by vancouverbyte, on Flickr

//15/25/26/1f - Vancouver, BC 1992 by USVIZION, on Flickr

19841201-006 by Al Neufeld, on Flickr

[esquire]

Wow. Vancouver was still a bit of a gritty port town at its edges back then, but you could see the transition was already well underway.

[MolsonExport]

Originally Posted by Laceoflight

Yeah. In 1844. Of course QC was ~38% anglo... 85 years after the anglos threw 15 000 bombs over the small town, after Wolfe ordered his friends Goreham and Scott to destroy every village from Lotbinière to La Pocatière, from Neuville to Baie-Saint-Paul, to burn every crop, to burn every barn and every house, forcing the remaining Canadiens to live in the woods for 2 years.... after QC officially underwent a massive immigration program for 3 decades, bringing at least 170k Scottish settlers to the port from 1815 to 1870... Of course QC was ~38% anglo. Good old days

At the last census, there were 1350 unilingual anglophones in QC city.

Yes, I know (I am from Quebec [Montreal]).

[SignalHillHiker]

In a city as old, beautiful, and (in its time) significant as St. John's, going through old photos tends to be impressive - the city usually looks a little grander than you'd expect, and all of the public buildings are finer than today. But every now and then, whether it's the Central Slum or whatever else, one photo snaps you back to reality. Via FB: