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Good write up! The CFL really does have a long rich tradition that a lot of people aren't aware of...Someone please explain to me why two teams in a then 6 team league were named The "Roughriders"?
Canada once had two separate leagues, one in the east and one in the west.

The Ottawa Rough Riders were the first team with that name. When a team was formed in Saskatchewan I suppose they liked the name (the early Ottawa club was also quite successful) and they chose it with a slight difference in spelling: Roughriders. It would be like if the NFL and CFL merged today, you'd have two Lions clubs: BC and Detroit. (Though not sure if the BC Lions are named for the Detroit club.)

When the two leagues merged to create the CFL (in the 1950s?) neither club wanted to give up their name. And initially the CFL's clubs played mostly regional schedules, west in the west, east in the east. So the Rough Riders playing the Roughriders didn't happen that often. Eventually they moved to a fully interlocking schedule where each team played the other team once at home and once on the road.

We've actually had the Rough Riders playing the Roughriders in the Grey Cup more than once. In 1976 I definitely recall.
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Canton may have been home to the first football team and the founding location of the NFL, but the first NFL game was played in Dayton and won by the Dayton Triangles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dayton_Triangles

And the forward pass was invented by Knute Rockne at Cedar Point in 1913.

https://sanduskyregister.com/news/14...r-point-beach/
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sounds rough
And, like so much in football, very homoerotic.
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Canada once had two separate leagues, one in the east and one in the west.

The Ottawa Rough Riders were the first team with that name. When a team was formed in Saskatchewan I suppose they liked the name (the early Ottawa club was also quite successful) and they chose it with a slight difference in spelling: Roughriders. It would be like if the NFL and CFL merged today, you'd have two Lions clubs: BC and Detroit. (Though not sure if the BC Lions are named for the Detroit club.)
We've actually had the Rough Riders playing the Roughriders in the Grey Cup more than once. In 1976 I definitely recall.
Not sure but the Lions Gate Bridge in Vancouver was named for two mountain peaks north of the city called The Lions... so maybe the team name came from the same reference. Unless for some mysterious reason BC fans were ardent supporters of Detroit's NFL team ;-).

Roughriders and Rough Riders
Ottawa Rough Riders rugby club changed their name in 1924 to Senators and the Regina rugby club grabbed the name but spelled it Roughriders (one word).

After Ottawa's CFL franchise went belly-up, eventually to return in 2014... Saskatchewan enforced their trademark and Ottawa had to come up with a new name: Redblacks (reference to uniform colours?).
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Canton may have been home to the first football team and the founding location of the NFL, but the first NFL game was played in Dayton and won by the Dayton Triangles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dayton_Triangles
It's cool to consider some the locations of the original teams... Dayton, Canton, Columbus, Akron, Hammond, Decatur, Muncie, Rock Island, Rochester... definitely a Great Lakes/Midwestern league.

As a highly-amateur football historian, I feel that I must dispel a couple of half-truths here:

The Dayton game in 1920 was really the first matchup between two American Professional Football Association (APFA) teams... it wasn't the NFL until a couple years later, with many different teams. And the first game for an APFA team was actually played in Rock Island IL.

The claim of the first NFL game in Dayton is a bit tenuous because it wasn't the NFL then, and went through multiple iterations with consolidation of other leagues and exits/entrances and changes of teams, before it became the NFL in 1922.


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And the forward pass was invented by Knute Rockne at Cedar Point in 1913.

https://sanduskyregister.com/news/14...r-point-beach/
This is football mythology... there's tons of it, just like in any sport. Rockne did NOT "invent" the forward pass in 1913. The forward pass became popularized at that time, and Rockne was one of the stars of the era who utilized it. Rockne wasn't even the QB! It was a guy named Gus Dorais.

The forward pass was used in college football back in the 1870s and 80s, before Rockne was even born. Walter Camp is known to have performed the first forward pass in 1879, which resulted in a game-winning touchdown (that's why it was even recorded for history... it was notable in determining the outcome of the game between Princeton and Yale).

John Heisman convinced the college football rules committee to fully legalize the forward pass in 1906. He was a proponent of it in order to develop the complexity of the sport and for player safety reasons.
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Some memorable plays in San Francisco football history:

The Catch

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The Catch II

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The Catch III

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The Run (occurs at the 1:14 mark)

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After Ottawa's CFL franchise went belly-up, eventually to return in 2014... Saskatchewan enforced their trademark and Ottawa had to come up with a new name: Redblacks (reference to uniform colours?).
There were also the short-lived and forgettable Renegades in between the Rough Riders and Redblacks. They weren't allowed to use the Rough Riders' name either.

It's been reserved for Saskatchewan ever since the original Ottawa Rough Riders franchise disappeared.
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Not sure but the Lions Gate Bridge in Vancouver was named for two mountain peaks north of the city called The Lions... so maybe the team name came from the same reference. Unless for some mysterious reason BC fans were ardent supporters of Detroit's NFL team ;-).
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Most definitely this.

Also, there are mountain lions in the Vancouver area (see the team's logo).

Not sure of lions of any kind in SE Michigan (except in a zoo).
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