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Old Posted Oct 30, 2014, 12:25 AM
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This sort of epitomizes St. Catherines...


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Catharines



But here is a full skyline shot of St. Kitts...


St.Catharines, Ontario by Kuhlie.o, on Flickr
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It's so hard to put a finger on St Catharines. We've all driven by on the QEW, like, a million times and seen that rear-end view you posted. But there's got to be a lot more to it than that. It seems like the QEW sliced the city in half like a five-year-old does a earthworm...
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Old Posted Oct 30, 2014, 1:46 AM
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It's so hard to put a finger on St Catharines. We've all driven by on the QEW, like, a million times and seen that rear-end view you posted. But there's got to be a lot more to it than that. It seems like the QEW sliced the city in half like a five-year-old does a earthworm...
That rear view Chadilaccc posted is actually from the 406, behind those buildings is a decent sized downtown. You can't see it because it is up on a hill raised out of sight from the 406.

I made these photos to show the angle that photo was taken from. You can see the rest of downtown that is out of site from the highway...

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Old Posted Oct 30, 2014, 1:59 AM
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^Thanks for that.

I'd say St Catharines suffers a similar affliction to Hamilton. People, by the thousands, pass through the area every hour, every day at high speeds. But all they get is a snap shot and they rarely ever hop on to that exit ramp to see what's happening.
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^Thanks for that.

I'd say St Catharines suffers a similar affliction to Hamilton. People, by the thousands, pass through the area every hour, every day at high speeds. But all they get is a snap shot and they rarely ever hop on to that exit ramp to see what's happening.
In St. Catharines' case that might be a good thing. I lived there for like 2 and half years and it was very 'blah'. It had a few cute neighbourhoods I suppose, but no identity at all. The diagonal streets were annoying. The streets that didn't follow the grid were even worse. The downtown messes with your sense of direction. The bus service was designed with malicious intent (any bus that went anywhere interesting didn't run in evenings or on weekends). Basically it felt like a satellite commuter town that forgot to have a big city to attach itself to and somehow decided that Niagara Falls would fill that role despite being half the size (though occasionally they realised there was nothing really to do there and went to Hamilton or Toronto instead). Anyone I've talked to who's met other people from St. Catharines has said that those other folks had a similar opinion to myself.
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The entire Niagara Region is very odd from an urban point of view.

A lot of different cities but no heart. It kind of makes you wonder why one particular city didn't dominate. They sort of just blend into one another and you never know exactly what city you are in.

There are certainly very nice areas and small towns and there is a lot of history but no real centre despite being bigger than Victoria. I guess Waterloo Region is very similar in that it is the conurbation of 5 different cities but there at least there are 2 major universities while Niagara only has smallish Brock. KWC also is fairly consistent in it's urban form as there are no real gaps between the cities unlike Niagara where there are little splices of land separating non-descript cities and towns.

In terms of urban form I don't think there is another area in the country quite like Niagara.
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I live in Niagara, and to me it doesn't feel like a "city" of 400 000 at all, it feels like a bunch of small towns, because that's exactly what it is. I grew up in Kitchener, which actually does feel like a city of 1/3 to 1/2 a million, depending on whether Cambridge is added to Kitchener and Waterloo. KWC and Niagara Region are very different. Thankfully I'm moving back to the GTA on Friday!
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I hate to single St. Catharines out, but I think we have a winner for the least attractive/most dull city of its size in Canada right there.

Downtown St. Kitts has about as much going for it as a typical Ontario city of about 1/3 its size. Seriously, downtown Belleville, Chatham and Woodstock are comparable. Downtown Guelph, Peterborough and Kingston are immeasurably better and part of much smaller cities/regions. It's hard to believe that St. Catharines is the metropolitan centre for a region comparable in population to Victoria, Halifax or Saskatoon.

The Port Dalhousie section has some charm, though.
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fantastic new Meridian Centre (blue seats) in St Catherines!

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it reminds me of Mosaic Place (red seats) in Moose Jaw, SK. with stadium seating down lower concourse and box seating on upper..
..just different color seats

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Town of Les Éboulements, not too far from Québec City

Les Éboulements, Québec, Canada by Fotoplo, on Flickr


Mont Valin, seen from the outskirts of Chicoutimi

Le Mont Valin vue de Chicoutimi by gaudreaultnormand, on Flickr
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^Cute little beach. Lots of interesting little spots to investigate on the north shore of the harbour.
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MeIsThomas has been waving the Hamilton flag proudly and strongly of late

It will be nice to see some of those skyline angles in a few years once the new additions are built.
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Town of Les Éboulements, not too far from Québec City

Les Éboulements, Québec, Canada by Fotoplo, on Flickr


Mont Valin, seen from the outskirts of Chicoutimi

Le Mont Valin vue de Chicoutimi by gaudreaultnormand, on Flickr
really nice seeing underexposed cities (or should I say, villages) featured. Beautiful. I just love the Quebec countryside.
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