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Old Posted Dec 23, 2017, 5:20 AM
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Anyone notice the construction elevator is coming down?
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2017, 5:34 PM
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Some are older - had to upload the old Pontiac:





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Old Posted Dec 23, 2017, 6:21 PM
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A question of interest that I've always wondered with skyscraper construction. How do they safely dismantle the crane when it has finished construction?
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2017, 7:02 PM
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A question of interest that I've always wondered with skyscraper construction. How do they safely dismantle the crane when it has finished construction?
I had the same question and then i youtubed it!
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2017, 7:31 PM
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A question of interest that I've always wondered with skyscraper construction. How do they safely dismantle the crane when it has finished construction?
From what I've seen with my own eyes, they can add or subtract vertical segments of the crane to increase/decrease its height by an internal jacking system as part of crane system. One it gets down to a height where they can bring in a mobile crane, they start dismantling the boom, cab, counterweights, etc...
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Old Posted Dec 24, 2017, 12:34 AM
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How does it work when the tower base is 600ft up? helicopters?
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Old Posted Dec 24, 2017, 12:37 AM
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I hear they just unbolt it and tip it over and hope for the best.
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Old Posted Dec 26, 2017, 2:17 AM
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Old Posted Dec 26, 2017, 1:32 PM
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Old Posted Dec 26, 2017, 1:41 PM
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Sorry Philly, I love you but this building is just plain ugly and way too fat looking. The skyline looked better without it.
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Old Posted Dec 26, 2017, 2:08 PM
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Sorry Philly, I love you but this building is just plain ugly and way too fat looking. The skyline looked better without it.
The only complaint I can generate from within is the same complaint I had for the original Comcast Center: it’s larger size reduces the perspective on the surrounding towers, making them look less significant than they would standing by themselves. Kinda like shave the bushes so the tree can stand tall, but in reverse.
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Old Posted Dec 26, 2017, 2:14 PM
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Sorry Philly, I love you but this building is just plain ugly and way too fat looking. The skyline looked better without it.
Ok.
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Old Posted Dec 26, 2017, 2:55 PM
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The only complaint I can generate from within is the same complaint I had for the original Comcast Center: it’s larger size reduces the perspective on the surrounding towers, making them look less significant than they would standing by themselves. Kinda like shave the bushes so the tree can stand tall, but in reverse.
Maybe, but the alternative is to simply not build supertalls, which I think we can all agree is not a solution. I hope someday someone invents technology that would allow them to stretch 1LP by a few hundred feet so it would once again be the tallest, but I think we're at least 2 or 3* years away from that happening.



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Old Posted Dec 26, 2017, 2:59 PM
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Sorry Philly, I love you but this building is just plain ugly and way too fat looking. The skyline looked better without it.
it's not quite as bad now that the elevator is being disassembled, as that added a noticeable amount of width to it.

I too hate the north and south views, but I'll deal with it if it means we get supertalls and get a skyline that resembles the true economy of the city. I totally understand that a skyline isn't a big dick contest, but for better or worse, some people's impression of a city is based on a quick look at the skyline. I'm happy that Philly's is growing, regardless of how. Also, it's so good when viewing from 1) the west, and 2) the south west (when entering the schuylkill from Vare ave) that I can live with hating the view from south.
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Old Posted Dec 26, 2017, 3:17 PM
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This Supertall is fantastic and will stand the test of time compared to many others(Wilshire, Salesforce.) Too fat for the skyline? Maybe. Gorgeous building? Definitely.
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Old Posted Dec 26, 2017, 3:47 PM
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I personally find that the width adds very positively to the skyline. There's something to be said for architectural variation in skyscraper massing.

That's a common thread that all of the most impressive and attractive skylines possess--a variety of massing, heights, building ages, and exterior appearances/colors. At least in my book.
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Old Posted Dec 26, 2017, 4:31 PM
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My first impression, which still holds, is that this is a very tall building trying to look like a shorter one.

The width-to-height ratio, and the spacing of the horizontal banding are the reasons, I think.

That said, I'm very happy that this got built, and when you stand next to it, it's impressive.
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Old Posted Dec 26, 2017, 9:36 PM
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This building reminds me of the Prudential building in Chicago in how at first not loved by many but over time you learned to appreciate it for its historical value!

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I really dislike that the cladding for most of the shaft does not extend all the way up the cooling tower and hope this is changed. It looks like that may be the case from renders and that material extended all the way up to the spire. I also dislike the contrast of the class and the cooling material tower when viewed from the north/south long side orientations. Not sure if there are functional or practical reasons that preclude it, but I think this would look much better with glass on the sides of the cooling tower on top the current material. Other than these points, I think it's turning out pretty decent.
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