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Old Posted Mar 16, 2008, 5:02 PM
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City awards $2.7-million fire hall contract

City awards $2.7-million fire hall contract

Low bidder from Mississauga accepted

By Mike Pearson

Ancaster News
Mar 14, 2008

A Mississauga firm will be responsible for the construction of Ancaster's new emergency services Station 20.
M.J. Dixon Construction Limited was awarded the contract late last month.

The company's bid of $2,723,000 was the lowest of seven submissions.

The figure was $124,621 lower than Ancaster firm Bestco Construction. The highest bid of 3,895,000 was submitted by Hamilton firm Triple Crown Enterprises.

Hamilton assistant deputy fire chief Jim Doyle said the contract is a win-win situation for the city. M.J. Dixon not only submitted the lowest bid, but also has experience using Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design principles.

"It's great that they've got some experience," Mr. Doyle said.

The new emergency services building will be built using LEED guidelines for energy efficiency and locally-produced materials.

Mr. Doyle said the city will strive for LEED silver designation. LEED is a registered trademark of the U.S. Green Building Council. There are multiple LEED designations ranging from platinum to bronze.

According to information on its Web site, M.J. Dixon has built several emergency services stations in the Greater Toronto Area. Its Ajax fire station project was billed as the first major architectural project promoting environmental initiatives in Ajax. The station was also built according to LEED Gold specifications.

Another fire hall for the city of Toronto at Old Leslie Street included state-of-the- art communication cabling systems, closed circuit television and security systems, vehicle exhaust systems, apparatus bays, dormitory training facilities and fire prevention offices, as well as kitchen and fitness facilities.

Paul Chang, co-ordinator of LEED construction for M.J. Dixon, was on vacation this week. A preliminary site meeting with the contractor and city staff is scheduled for next week.

Station 20, located at the northwest corner of Garner Road and Kitty Murray Lane, is scheduled for occupancy by December. The site is currently home to the Ancaster Fairgrounds, which are slated to relocate by 2009. Construction of the emergency services station will begin this spring and is expected to continue until this fall.

Station 20 will operate 24-hours, seven days per week, with one fire truck and one emergency medical services vehicle. The station will be staffed by 20 full-time firefighters.



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I'm glad this will be done with. The fire station near my place (Mohawk and Garth) is often sent to Ancaster and Meadowlands even though our property taxes are going towards it and not Ancaster.

Once this station is up our property tax for the fire station will stay inside our area.
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where is this?? the picture looks like it's the middle of nowhere. I assume there must be gobs of sprawl nearby, otherwise it makes no sense to put a firehall in no-man's land.
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Station 20, located at the northwest corner of Garner Road and Kitty Murray Lane, is scheduled for occupancy by December. The site is currently home to the Ancaster Fairgrounds, which are slated to relocate by 2009. Construction of the emergency services station will begin this spring and is expected to continue until this fall.
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sorry....I'm completely unfamiliar with the area...where is that in relation to Duffs Corners or Meadowlands etc....
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sorry....I'm completely unfamiliar with the area...where is that in relation to Duffs Corners or Meadowlands etc....
It is about 1 ½ to 2 km east of the new Hwy 6 at the top of the Meadowlands development. Or about halfway between Duff’s corner and Glancaster Road.
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We wouldn't want the barns and tract houses to burn down now would we. Another misplacement of a public facility.
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sorry....I'm completely unfamiliar with the area...where is that in relation to Duffs Corners or Meadowlands etc....
It's on the corner of Google and Maps.
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ahh, found it. Just typed in 'empty field amongst the sprawl in Ancaster' and Google brought back a pile of great info.
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It is the corner of the fairground's parking lot.
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I don't see what is in risk of burn down out there? Is a $200,000 dollar tract house really worth $2.7 million dollars in construction costs for this fire station.
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I don't see what is in risk of burn down out there? Is a $200,000 dollar tract house really worth $2.7 million dollars in construction costs for this fire station.
Ancaster is largely boring and sprawlsville, to be sure, but it has a rapidly growing population. It seems underserved by not having a firehall of its own.

This looks like a decent project: it's LEED certified and the city took the lowest bid from out-of-town developers who have done this kind of work before and to exacting standards. So, what's the problem with Ancaster having a firehall? What am I missing here? This will serve the entire town, which has been around for ages. This project doesn't contribute to sprawl, as I understand it.

Don't get me wrong, I'm for downtown development and investment, but the suburbs are in place now. There's no way around that. The city still has to attend to them. This looks like a fair project. That it's going on the former fair grounds also makes sense.

From the picture, it looks very rural, but it isn't. It's only about a two-minute drive to the Meadowlands Monstrosity from the former fair grounds.
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I don't see what is in risk of burn down out there? Is a $200,000 dollar tract house really worth $2.7 million dollars in construction costs for this fire station.
One final comment: the above logic is absurd. At what dollar value for a home would you say justifies a new firehall? So we only put in firehalls for heritage homes of x-amount and only in intensely dense neighbourhoods?
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Little children live in poverty on the other side of town. No one seems to be injecting $2.7 million dollars into a project that could potentially save their lives one day.

This fire station will fuel property values and contribute to more sprawl. There is already a station on Wilson St. for Ancaster.
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what??? there is a firehall on Wilson St?? this is news to me. I've always heard the logic for this new firehall being that Ancaster doesn't have a firehall yet.
If this is true, then this is ridiculous. If this site pictured above really is 2 minutes from Meadowlands, then it's a complete waste of money. Wilson St is also 2 minutes from Meadowlands.
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Wilson East and Rousseaux may be two minutes from Meadowlands, but the existing Ancaster station is out by the high school, about seven minutes from the fairgrounds. (The long-mothballed station at Wilson and Sulphur Springs is about seven minutes from the fairgrounds and five minutes from the Meadowlands.)
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So I talked to friend on the Fire Department about this station. To start with this station was already on the books for the Ancaster Fire Department when amalgamation came along. Hamilton was already planning a new station at the top of Upper Paradise at Rymal area to service the high number of senior residences going in that area and to service the backside of the airport when amalgamation came along. The Ancaster station was originally planed close to the power centre on Golflinks. This new station on Garner is a cost savings as there would have been two stations built, two fire trucks bought and 40 firefighters hired instead of just 20 for one station. This is one of the few actually documented and factual cost savings of amalgamation.

Up to now the area is serviced by Station 21 on Wilson Street @ the 403 and Station 3 at Garth and Mohawk. Because of the evil area rating, Ancaster people pay less for fire fighting services, they being 3rd out of 6 areas. But they get full service with some full time vehicles and some part-time vehicles whenever the part-timers get to the station. The problem with that area and the Meadowlands is that the vehicle from Station 3 almost always beats the vehicle from Station 21 to the calls. But then the area served by Station 3 now is served by a vehicle further away yet the people of Ward 8 are paying more for their service than the people in Ancaster. This was driving Ward 8 Councillor Terry Whitehead crazy. Now this new station will go into Ancaster but also go down Garner/Rymal in to old Hamilton and service this area and up into the Mount Hope area and the back end of the airport. This station will also house a new ambulance for that area. The mothballed station in old Ancaster is now a live theatre.

My friend also said that they pick locations by working out response times. A built up area should get the first fire truck within 4 minutes, 80% of the time. When an area gets busy, then they look at adding more trucks to a station. That is why the lower city has most of the stations with 2 trucks. Station 1 on John Street has 3 as they do over 4000 calls a year in the core! In the outlying areas, you can have stations with up to 5 vehicles. At the most, only one will be staffed 24/7 and the rest will be staffed with on call part-timers.

I was also told that there are plans to build a new station in Waterdown. It is to be in the area of Evens Road and HWY 5/Dundas Street. It will be staffed by on call part-timers and will be called Station 31 and may open as early as late 2009.

If you want to see what the Hamilton Fire Department has in the way of Stations and Fire Trucks, try this link.

http://www.myhamilton.ca/myhamilton/...+Locations.htm

Stations 1 to 12, 20 & 23 are full time staffed (24/7).
Stations 17, 21 & 24 have one vehicle staffed 24/7 and the rest are on call part-timers.
Stations 14, 15, 16, 18, 19 & 25 to 28 and future 31 are on call part-timers.
Station 13 is a Maintenance facility and is staffed from 8:30 am to 11 pm.
Station 22 is a training facility and is usually staffed from 8 am to 11 pm.
Station 29 is the fire prevention HQ and is staffed from 7 am to 6 pm.
Station 30 is a 24/7 EMS facility and houses about a dozen ambulances, first response units and large incident support units. It also houses the central storeroom for all of the Hamilton Emergency Services Fire & EMS stations and personnel.
Stations 1, 3, 4, 7, 9, 10, 13, 15, 17, 19, 20, 21, 23, 24 & 30 house ambulances also.

I hope this helps people with the need and placing of Fire/EMS stations.
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thanks LikeHamilton...that is very helpful. Great info.
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