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Old Posted Mar 22, 2023, 4:52 AM
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The point is that the boldfaced are big rivers, moving lots of volume of water, but the graphic makes them look small.
The graphic makes them look exactly as large as expected based on the key in the upper right. It also appears to have cut the Canadian portions so the rivers between borders will look smaller from a purely US perspective.
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2023, 1:42 PM
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It's by volume so you need to factor in depth and not just width.
The volume is also higher if the water tends to flow more quickly thanks to greater elevation change.

With the conspicuous exception of Niagra Falls, both the St. Lawrence and Mississippi River systems travel through flat areas, which makes them fantastic for commercial navigation, but poor sources of hydro power.

The Mississippi, Ohio, and Tennessee do have a number of hydroelectric generators, but they are all very small as compared to Niagra Falls or the big dams out west.

This recent news story has some fun facts on small hydroelectric power stations on the Ohio River and its tributaries:
https://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news...rk-in-kentucky

Here is a still-operating teeny-tiny circa-1919 hydro plant. It was probably built by a factory that is no longer there:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.4101.../data=!3m1!1e3
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2023, 4:32 PM
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Fun fact that tiny blue line in central AZ is why Phoenix exists.
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2023, 5:11 PM
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Fun fact that tiny blue line in central AZ is why Phoenix exists.
Salt River...I find it interesting that instead of watering your lawn (if you have one) in Phoenix, instead you flood your lawn at certain times of the year.
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2023, 6:10 PM
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Salt River...I find it interesting that instead of watering your lawn (if you have one) in Phoenix, instead you flood your lawn at certain times of the year.
Thats only the case for older areas that were built over former farmlands that were irrigated. The water infrastructure didn't change but instead of Orange and Grapefruit groves its just regular yards.

Its a small minority of most homes holdover from ore suburban sprawl.

And its more than just the Salt, its where the Salt and the Gila and the Verde and several small rivers and streams all meet in a flat plain that used to flood regularly every spring and is why irrigation agriculture was the standard for literally thousands of years. This has also led to a very large aquifer which is about half of the water the Valley ureses, 25% is canaled in from the Colorado and the rest is the various local rivers and streams.

It wasn't until the mid 1900's that modern Damns were built to prevent annual flooding and even then, we had a horrible one in the spring of 1974, and we will likely have a flood this spring due to the huge amount of snow and rain that has come down this year. The Verde (leads to the Salt) is already dealing with minor flooding.

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Palm Springs is weird, but it's defintiely a part of the LA area.
It wouldnt exist without LA. Its far as hell, but it counts imo.
I beg to differ; Palm Springs doesn't "feel" like LA. It's more like a day-trip or weekend getaway from LA than it is part of it, like Santa Barbara. In fact, both Santa Barbara and Palm Springs have their own media markets and are not part of the LA media market.

The few people I knew from the Palm Springs area all saw LA as the "big bad city."
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2023, 11:39 PM
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I beg to differ; Palm Springs doesn't "feel" like LA. It's more like a day-trip or weekend getaway from LA than it is part of it, like Santa Barbara. In fact, both Santa Barbara and Palm Springs have their own media markets and are not part of the LA media market.

The few people I knew from the Palm Springs area all saw LA as the "big bad city."
We arent talking about Metro areas we are talking about mega-urban regions.
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