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Originally Posted by ColoPrecaster
I hope you are joking about this part of your post. If not then you haven't a clue what you are looking at and what it takes to manufacture that outstanding piece of concrete.
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Well, let me begin my reply with the fact that no, I am not joking. Subsequently I "haven't a clue what I am looking at" insofar as I do not know the exact techniques used to manufacture that piece of concrete. I will also agree that, from my experience (i.e. not one that has any idea of the manufacturing techniques of concrete and the respective resulting products), this does indeed look outstanding for a piece of concrete. My description of the panels as resulting from a process wherein "concrete slabs...have had machines press seam patterns into them" was definitely an uninformed and crass (and purposely so for the intent of my post) description of them. However, my description brings to light an interesting point: most (I would wager more than 99%) of the people who pass by this building and also judge the building's aesthetics are making that judgment from the perspective of someone who has no knowledge of the manufacturing process that was utilized to produce the visual look of the facade and also no knowledge of the costs involved with that manufacturing process. So your average Joe (myself included) could very well walk by the Elysian and think, "This building looks like cheap concrete that is trying to look like stone." Even though their assertion of "cheap" is unfounded (because I'm sure the work done on Elysian costs more than the average concrete high-rise) it is not unwarranted: people only have the information they have thus-far obtained in their life to use when they make a judgment of any kind. Therefore, the judgments made by an architect, a contractor, a person working in the concrete industry, or an "average Joe" are all going to vary widely. And when it comes to those judgments, perception rarely accords with reality.
OK so I went off on a bit of a rant, but it was not meant to undermine your reply to me in any way. Rather, it was meant to justify the judgment I made about the Elysian and to illuminate how I came to it. Hopefully that wasn't too much or too irrelevant (I tend to be one of those people who can't say anything without saying [almost] everything).
As for my statement about the concrete slabs having the appearance (to me) of having been given artificial seams by some sort of machine, I still feel that that is an accurate assessment of them insofar as the seams are meant to emulate the look of genuine masonry when it is clear that genuine masonry they are not:
The seams I am referring to appear to not extend all the way to the edge of the slab that I have highlighted, and they also do not extend depth-wise into the facade. However, as far as the manufacturing process is concerned, I would much enjoy knowing how the look is achieved in the concrete. Also, I enjoy that you are able to contribute to this forum with the knowledge of one who actually works in the industry that is often under discussion, and I much appreciate your opinions.
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