noirish Los Angeles

[MichaelRyerson]

This from 1934 is the best route map I've got. I posted it big, as they say, for the details (also, so that you guys could take a copy if you'd like)...

Route Map Los Angeles Railway, 1934

L.A. Taco "Celebrating the Taco lifestyle in Los Angeles" (nice map)

http://www.lataco.com/1934-map-of-pu...nsport-in-l-a/

[HossC]

I have that map and a similar one from 1938, but they're not very detailed in the area I was looking at.

Originally Posted by Wig-Wag

HossC, here is a link to an H-line route description. Hopefully it will help your trace of the route which has been all but obliterated over the years.

Thanks to Wig-Wag's link, I now know that the line was abandoned in 1947. The aerial below on the left is from 1948, and the tracks are already missing. The image posted by e_r shows the line turning north just above the Bimini Baths. The trestle from e_r's picture had also gone by 1948. I've marked the route of the H-Line in red on both maps, but there's very little left nowadays to show you where the right-of-way used to run.


Historic Aerials/Google Maps

[HossC]

Very unusually, today's Julius Shulman photoset is undated. Maybe the car can give us a clue. This is "Job 0127: Bubeshko Apartment, Exteriors (Los Angeles, Calif.), undated".



Here's a closer look.



Both from Getty Research Institute

The Bubeshko Apartments aren't new to NLA - e_r showed us some great close-up views of the stonework way back in post #2083. From www.laconservancy.org:

In the late 1930s, modernist master R. M. Schindler designed two apartment buildings in Silver Lake for Anastasia Bubeshko and her daughter Luby. The clients wanted a home that would also provide rental income, as well as living spaces that were flexible enough to be re-arranged as needed in the future. Schindler responded with a vision of a “Greek hillside,” a cohesive collection of five units that could be divided into seven. Each unit was unique and connected to the outdoors. Two later alterations, also by Schindler, allowed the units to be subdivided in different ways.

The Bubeshko Apartments are still standing at 2036-2046 Griffith Park Boulevard. The article above details some of the painstaking restoration which earned a Conservancy Preservation Award in 2010.


GSV

[MichaelRyerson]

Originally Posted by HossC

Very unusually, today's Julius Shulman photoset is undated. Maybe the car can give us a clue. This is "Job 0127: Bubeshko Apartment, Exteriors (Los Angeles, Calif.), undated".

That's a California 1945 license plate.

[GaylordWilshire]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Postcard-Cot...item4d3686e565

I believe that's Doyle chomping on a cigar in the oval inset, while a group of boxers pose in front of a cottage at the Vernon training camp.

WSLA


I've been working on an illustrated catalog of the original three tracts of Windsor Square, hoping to bring it
out from the gross injustice of its often being claimed by Hancock Park. (OK, I'm being dramatic.) In this series
of house histories, unlike in my others on Wilshire Boulevard, Berkeley Square, Fremont Place etc,
I'm only recording origins for now--though there are no doubt many a noirish story among the couple of hundred
houses of Windsor Square. I've completed the first street in my study, Irving Boulevard between
Wilshire and Third; turns out that 620 South Irving, built in 1920 on spec (as were many in the Square),
was first sold to Jack Doyle. Vitagraph's star Earle Williams died at 620 in 1927.

Quite a few houses were moved to Irving Boulevard; remarkably, of its 48, only one has been demolished--a house otherwise known as 10086 Sunset Boulevard.

Irving Boulevard houses:http://windsorsquarelosangeles.blogs...square_28.html

A history and index of Windsor Square: www.windsorsquarelosangeles.blogspot.com

[Flyingwedge]

Have we previously seen the two homes in this undated photo?


UCLA -- http://lit250v.library.ucla.edu/isla...laviews%3A1018

[HenryHuntington]

The trestle from e_r's picture had also gone by 1948.

LARy replaced that trestle with fill in 1932. It had spanned an oil spur of the Cahuenga Valley Railroad (later part of Los Angeles Pacific), with the oil being hauled to LAP's Sherman (West Hollywood) Power House.

[HossC]

Thanks for identifying the license plate in yesterday's post, MichaelRyerson.


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Today's Julius Shulman photoset needs no introduction, but it does deserve a title. This is "Job 3883: Los Angeles (Calif.) Dept. of Water and Power, 1965".



The rest of the set shows the interior. It looks like the checkered ceiling featured throughout.



Lots of cubicles right by the windows.



A very shiny corridor.



I'm guessing that this view is looking north-east, although I didn't have time to identify any of the buildings.



No mystery over the direction of this shot.



I'm not sure what this room was used for. The chairs with desks make it look like a lecture hall, but there's nowhere to teach from. On the other hand, the counter at the front could mean it's waiting room, but then why would the chairs need desks, and why would they be so far apart?



The last image shows an unidentified office. Does anyone know the purpose of the device on the end of the table? It seems to have wires coming from underneath.



All from Getty Research Institute

[ethereal_reality]

Hoss, my favorite is the secretary with Los Angeles City Hall through the window.

this one.


detail

It's like city hall is watching her work.
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*the secretary reminds me of a young Betty Friedan.


https://thezephyrlounge.wordpress.com

Originally Posted by HenryHuntington

The trestle from e_r's picture had also gone by 1948.

LARy replaced that trestle with fill in 1932. It had spanned an oil spur of the Cahuenga Valley Railroad (later part of Los Angeles Pacific),
with the oil being hauled to LAP's Sherman (West Hollywood) Power House.

what do you mean by, it spanned an 'oil spur' of the Cahuenga Valley Railroad? Didn't it span Bimini Slough?
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Now I'm intrigued by the Cahuenga Valley Railroad, HH.


Here's a CVR locomotive on Prospect Avenue in 1900. (we might have seen this before on NLA)


https://www.flickr.com/photos/charmainezoe/10359073803



And here's a much earlier photograph showing some passengers.


http://hollywoodphotographs.com/deta...-in-hollywood/

I don't see any rails in this photograph. Is that even possible for this type of train?

*on second thought, maybe this isn't the Cahuenga Valley Railroad (even though it was labeled as such)

*Bruce Torrence at Hollywood Photograph Collection, "Cahuenga Valley Railroad in Hollywood, 1888"

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[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

Irving Boulevard houses:http://windsorsquarelosangeles.blogs...square_28.html

Excellent job on the Irving Boulevard houses GW! I like what you've done with the photographs.


I am especially fond of the fine design of 638. (see below)


http://windsorsquarelosangeles.blogs...square_28.html

Check it out everyone, it's chock-full of valuable information.

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[ethereal_reality]

I just happened across this photo quite by accident.


http://www.ranker.com/pics/N10005363...-pico-photo-u1

"Man in Ostrich-Drawn Cart Gets Traffic Ticket on Pico, 1920s."

I thought it might be fun to figure out just where on Pico blvd. this traffic stop took place.

I notice there's a tire shop (well, racks of tires), as well as a round white sign(?) on the taller building.
the horiz. sign advertises a Harvar(d) something or other.


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[ethereal_reality]

Here's a better mystery.

"Interior of restaurant, Los Angeles 1940s."


http://www.ranker.com/pics/N10005362...erior-photo-u1

Oh my, how I'd love to figure out what restaurant this is, with it's high peaked ceiling with exposed rafters, state-of-the-art lighting fixtures, etc.

& there might be a large window just out of frame on the left.


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[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I just happened across this photo quite by accident.


http://www.ranker.com/pics/N10005363...-pico-photo-u1

"Man in Ostrich-Drawn Cart Gets Traffic Ticket on Pico, 1920s."

I thought it might be fun to figure out just where on Pico blvd. this traffic stop took place.

I notice there's a tire shop (well, racks of tires), as well as a round white sign(?) on the taller building.
the horiz. sign advertises a Harvar(d) something or other.

The image is from LAPL. Their caption says:

A man with an ostrich drawn cart receives a traffic ticket from a motorycle policeman at 2922 W. Pico Blvd., near Harvard. The cart shows a sign reading: Los Angeles Ostrich [Farm (is obscured)]

I can't match any of the current buildings to the photo.

This appears to be the same cart with double the horse birdpower .


LAPL

[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by HossC

Thanks for identifying the license plate in yesterday's post, MichaelRyerson.


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The last image shows an unidentified office. Does anyone know the purpose of the device on the end of the table? It seems to have wires coming from underneath.



All from Getty Research Institute

I believe that's the telephone....ultra modern for that era. It appears to have several phone lines plus an Intercom?

Several massive cigarette ashtrays grace the desk.

[Wig-Wag]

ER, HH, both photos are of the Cahuenga Valley Railroad. Both locomotives were built by the H.K. Porter company of Pittsburgh, PA.

See this site: http://hollywoodphotographs.com/sear...ey%20railroad/

See this site for some history: https://www.kcet.org/shows/lost-la/l...ahuenga-valley

Regarding what appears to be a railroad running on a dirt roadway; it was not uncommon in the period that the CVR was built to keep costs down by laying track on the ground and ballasted not with crushed rock but with the dirt present at the location. This was usually not a problem for light duty railroads as long as the ROW was monitored and maintained on a regular basis. Indeed, the Orange Empire Railway museum a Perris, California did this quite successfully on its storage tracks and the short loop around the property in its early days. Normal rains followed by hot summer days would solidify the dirt in to an almost concrete like hardness that would keep the rails in alignment and level. Abnormal weather could pose a problem however, especially heavy rains which would turn the "ballast" into a muddy, unstable mush, requiring re-leveling and re-alignment.

Cheers,
Jack

what do you mean by, it spanned an 'oil spur' of the Cahuenga Valley Railroad? Didn't it span Bimini Slough?
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Now I'm intrigued by the Cahuenga Valley Railroad, HH.


Here's a CVR locomotive on Prospect Avenue in 1900. (we might have seen this before on NLA)


https://www.flickr.com/photos/charmainezoe/10359073803



And here's a much earlier photograph showing some passengers.


http://hollywoodphotographs.com/deta...-in-hollywood/

I don't see any rails in this photograph. Is that even possible for this type of train?

*on second thought, maybe this isn't the Cahuenga Valley Railroad (even though it was labeled as such)

*Bruce Torrence at Hollywood Photograph Collection, "Cahuenga Valley Railroad in Hollywood, 1888"

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[odinthor]

Originally Posted by odinthor

[...] the below from Los Angeles Public Library's photographic collection, #00061725. [...] Prudent Beaudry's residence at 81 New High St. (below) [...] :



URL of Beaudry residence pic: http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics24/00061725.jpg

A vague recollection of a photo (below, my scan of the page) in Gernot Kuehn's book Views of Los Angeles (Portriga Publications, 1978), p. 131, made me dig the book out of my archives a moment ago; and to my surprise I find that I can finally answer Kuehn's question (has anyone else?): The El Centenario Café at address 501 is Prudent Beaudry's former residence, old address numbering 81, New High St. (compare with pic above).



But, sigh, it casts no light on anything about my mystery building.

[GaylordWilshire]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Excellent job on the Irving Boulevard houses GW! I really like what you've done with the photographs.


I am especially fond of the fine design of 638. (see below)


http://windsorsquarelosangeles.blogs...square_28.html

Check it out everyone, it's chock-full of valuable information.

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Thanks, ER. Lorraine, Windsor, Plymouth, Lucerne, Arden in the works....

The house above, 638 S Irving, was one of at least a dozen moved to Windsor Square generally from points not far east. 638 started out on St. Andrews Place.





A few priors on Prudent Beaudry's house:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1137

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1132

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=8998


The picture of "311" appears in Brent Dickerson's great pages, but with little more information: http://web.csulb.edu/~odinthor/socal12.html

[odinthor]

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

[...]

A few priors on Prudent Beaudry's house:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1137

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1132

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=8998


The picture of "311" appears in Brent Dickerson's great pages, but with little more information: http://web.csulb.edu/~odinthor/socal12.html

C'est moi--merci!

[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by Wig-Wag

ER, HH, both photos are of the Cahuenga Valley Railroad. Both locomotives were built by the H.K. Porter company of Pittsburgh, PA.

Cheers,
Jack

I thought you might like this.


http://www.ebay.it/itm/720-RAILROAD-...-/171305700671

"noiseless and smokeless" -really, why the smokestacks then?



Despite being over 3,000 miles from L.A., here's a 'noirish-looking' photograph of the H.K. Porter Co. building in downtown Pittsburgh, 1953.


http://bradystewartphoto.photoshelte...000tXhQ09JLamg



Thanks for all the information Wig-Wag. It's much appreciated.

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[ethereal_reality]

Here's another 'religious' institution with a huge globe on top. (like the recently discussed Victor Segno Institute in Echo Park)


eBay

Training School for Christian Workers, Huntington Park Calif. -postmarked 1910!
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