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Old Posted Feb 21, 2022, 3:17 AM
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The Crenshaw line and the Regional Connector are expected to be completed by May.

https://twitter.com/numble/status/14...1B76MfWWdczV6g
How long will we be able to enjoy the Crenshaw line before it’s split in half with a bus bridge to convert an at grade crossing a separation again?
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Old Posted Feb 21, 2022, 1:56 PM
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How long will we be able to enjoy the Crenshaw line before it’s split in half with a bus bridge to convert an at grade crossing a separation again?
Cheaper just to give it priority.
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Old Posted Feb 21, 2022, 10:57 PM
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Cheaper just to give it priority.
I mean I’m for grade separation but this is just incompetence at its best.
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Old Posted Feb 22, 2022, 2:19 PM
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Brightline Firms Up Vegas High Speed Rail Line Connection to Metrolink Rail Network

Brightline Firms Up Vegas High Speed Rail Line Connection to Metrolink Rail Network

By Howard Fine
Monday, February 21, 2022
Los Angeles Business Journal


"Brightline West, the affiliate of Miami-based Brightline Holdings that is planning to build a high-speed rail line from Las Vegas to Southern California, is close to solidifying the planned line’s connection to the Metrolink rail system, allowing passengers to travel by rail from Las Vegas to downtown Los Angeles’ Union Station.

Wes Edens, co-chief executive of New York-based Fortress Investment Group, which owns Brightline Holdings, told the Las Vegas Review-Journal last month that Brightline West has secured right of way for a 49-mile connector route between the Vegas line’s initial terminus in Victor Valley, through the Cajon Pass to a Metrolink rail station in Rancho Cucamonga in the Inland Empire. From there, passengers could connect through Metrolink to Union Station.

What’s more, that segment has now entered the environmental review process from the Federal Railroad Administration. According to the FRA’s website, the environmental review for the “Cajon Pass High Speed Rail Project” is scheduled to conclude by Nov. 30..."

https://labusinessjournal.com/news/2...l-line-connec/
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Old Posted Feb 22, 2022, 2:23 PM
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Has there been any discussion of putting either solar or wind turbines along the right-of-way of the Brightline route?

"The FRA’s project description also said the high-speed rail cars would be powered by an overhead electrical line; so much electrical juice would be required that the agency notes a new power substation would have to be built in Hesperia just to handle the trains going through the Cajon Pass.

One potential complication for Brightline: the high winds that frequently funnel through the Cajon Pass. Not only could those winds bring down segments of the electrical line and halt train service, but they could also spark wildfires. Brightline estimated the cost for the entire rail line — including the 49-mile Cajon Pass connector — at $8 billion..."
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Old Posted Mar 5, 2022, 9:17 PM
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^Taking the subway from Century City to DTLA someday is going to be surreal
Well, we're only 3 years away from it becoming reality. I work in CC, so this will be especially convenient for me.
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Old Posted Mar 5, 2022, 9:23 PM
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"UCLA tells LA Metro that they oppose monorail options for Sepulveda rail project, unless there is more of the line underground. UCLA finds the heavy rail options to be in line with their preferences and to be significantly better for LA region."

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Old Posted Mar 5, 2022, 9:26 PM
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^ As they should.
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2022, 11:42 AM
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Aerial gondola at Dodger stadium sparks fears of accelerated gentrification

By Rachel Uranga
LA Times
March 23, 2022


Phyllis Ling, left, and sister Tany Ling, who live in Chinatown, are opposed to the proposed Dodger Stadium gondola that would run above their home. (Gary Coronado/Los Angeles Times)

"With their Chinatown home boxed in by a freeway entrance, apartment buildings, a high school and a major boulevard to downtown Los Angeles, Phyllis and Tany Ling get the full cacophony of urban life from every direction but up.

Never could the sisters have imagined a project proposed directly above their home.

Metro is helping to plan an aerial gondola system to whisk baseball fans and concertgoers from Union Station to Dodger Stadium in what it says would be a mere seven-minute trip. Funded by former Dodgers owner Frank McCourt, the project would run about 40 feet above the Lings’ century-old Victorian cottage — meaning that every 30 seconds on game days, some 40 people packed in a tram would pass outside their living room window..."

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Old Posted Mar 24, 2022, 11:53 AM
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And their problem is,.... what?
Their house is already surrounded by a freeway and major boulevard. It's not like there will be a considerable uptake in noise or disturbances as opposed to the freeway.
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2022, 1:14 PM
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And their problem is,.... what?
Their house is already surrounded by a freeway and major boulevard. It's not like there will be a considerable uptake in noise or disturbances as opposed to the freeway.
I agree that many of the concerns about gentrification are ridiculous but I would also be concerned if the route for the new gondola went directly over my house.

"Metro is helping to plan an aerial gondola system to whisk baseball fans and concertgoers from Union Station to Dodger Stadium in what it says would be a mere seven-minute trip. Funded by former Dodgers owner Frank McCourt, the project would run about 40 feet above the Lings’ century-old Victorian cottage — meaning that every 30 seconds on game days, some 40 people packed in a tram would pass outside their living room window."
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2022, 1:26 PM
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Yeah I can definitely see that. Is this the only route they've studied? Do they have to go over houses?
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2022, 9:03 PM
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I agree that many of the concerns about gentrification are ridiculous but I would also be concerned if the route for the new gondola went directly over my house.

"Metro is helping to plan an aerial gondola system to whisk baseball fans and concertgoers from Union Station to Dodger Stadium in what it says would be a mere seven-minute trip. Funded by former Dodgers owner Frank McCourt, the project would run about 40 feet above the Lings’ century-old Victorian cottage — meaning that every 30 seconds on game days, some 40 people packed in a tram would pass outside their living room window."
How can it be both outside their window and above their house if it’s a single story?
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2022, 9:26 PM
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How can it be both outside their window and above their house if it’s a single story?
Who knows? Maybe it is a skylight window? I am no NIMBY and I support this gondola but I wouldn't be thrilled it if went directly over my house.
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How can it be both outside their window and above their house if it’s a single story?
According to the published alignment, it would run over streets and public lands and would not directly go over any homes. Basically it would run over Spring St from Union Station to LA State Historic Park, then a hard left turn over the park, over Bishops Road and across the 110.

It's hard to judge the aesthetic impact because there are so many different technologies for gondolas that have different requirements. It's really too soon to start the fearmongering about innocent homeowners, warm fuzzy nonprofits and infants/orphans being harmed by this project - they haven't released renderings yet or a final alignment.
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Old Posted Mar 25, 2022, 10:17 AM
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Gondola is a joke.

It’s amazing the opportunity LA has with all this transit funding and is blowing it.

So many projects would transform LA. Including a rail rapid transit station at Dodger Stadium
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Old Posted Mar 25, 2022, 12:54 PM
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Gondola is a joke.

It’s amazing the opportunity LA has with all this transit funding and is blowing it.

So many projects would transform LA. Including a rail rapid transit station at Dodger Stadium
The article above stated it was privately funded. If the former owner wants to do it, let him do it. This project encourages more transportation use by giving people a really good and pretty cool ride from the central train station in Downtown LA to Dodgers Stadium (again, with all private funds). Those people are probably going to get to Union Station via public transit as well, thereby increasing public transit usage and viability. How can that be a bad thing?

Plus, there are cities in South America and other places who have integrated gondolas into their urban transit systems very successfully.
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Gondola is a joke.

It’s amazing the opportunity LA has with all this transit funding and is blowing it.

So many projects would transform LA. Including a rail rapid transit station at Dodger Stadium
This isn't LA's transit funding. It's the team owners money.
Nobody is blowing anything, you can take that doomer nonsense somewhere else.
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Old Posted Mar 25, 2022, 1:30 PM
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This isn't LA's transit funding. It's the team owners money.
Nobody is blowing anything, you can take that doomer nonsense somewhere else.
It will also connect to Union Station, giving passengers the opportunity to transfer to the LA MTA's light-rail and subways and connect to Metro Rail and Amtrak. Not everyone will ride this gondola, of course, but it makes transit more feasible for fans going to Dodger games. It is another link in LA's broader transit network.
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