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^ gotcha.

Kinda hard to believe that east st. Louis was the #4 municipality in the state back then.

Today it doesn't even crack the top 125.

What a slide.
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Rockford probably belongs in that group too.

Disregarding Chicagoland and however you wanna parse out the metro east from the STL urban area, these are the largest urban areas in IL.


2010 UA population:

Rockford: 296,863

Quad Cities: 280,051*

Peoria: 266,921

Springfield: 161,316

Champaign: 145,361

Bloomington: 132,600

Decatur: 93,863


(*) Shared with Iowa; roughly half of it is on the Illinois side of the big river.
I actually forgot about Rockford, and havent spent much (or any other than driving through to Wisco) time there unlike most other Illinois metro areas.
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The Metro East is incredibly dispersed and thus doesnt feel like 800k or whatever it is. At one time it was kind of centered on East St. Louis but for the most part (Belleville/Alton/etc notwithstanding) has always existed as disparate industrial satellites and company towns of and free from the early environmental regulations of St. Louis (many of the streets even laid out by St. Louis City Engineers).
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The Metro East is incredibly dispersed and thus doesnt feel like 800k or whatever it is. At one time it was kind of centered on East St. Louis but for the most part (Belleville/Alton/etc notwithstanding) has always existed as disparate industrial satellites and company towns of and free from the early environmental regulations of St. Louis (many of the streets even laid out by St. Louis City Engineers).
I was pretty depressed going home and seeing so many abandoned and closed buildings, probably a result of the pandemic. The one bright spot was Belleville. They fixed up the central part of the city in ways I couldn’t have imagined. Old buildings are breathing new life. There’s outdoor dining, new street lights, sidewalks, and stores I don’t even recognize. There’s also a pride fest now? Holy shit! When did the culture of the city make this big 180?
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I was pretty depressed going home and seeing so many abandoned and closed buildings, probably a result of the pandemic. The one bright spot was Belleville. They fixed up the central part of the city in ways I couldn’t have imagined. Old buildings are breathing new life. There’s outdoor dining, new street lights, sidewalks, and stores I don’t even recognize. There’s also a pride fest now? Holy shit! When did the culture of the city make this big 180?
Belleville is a gem. My mom lived there and took the bus to downtown STL in the early 70s maybe? When I moved back to St. Louis in the aughts I’d take metrolink to Belleville and back for pub crawls in the pre-uber era, lol.
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A random reminder of the Illinois Terminal Railroads subway and El
operations from St. Louis.

subway in downtown stl

https://ceramembersblog.files.wordpr...01/cera337.jpg

el station in north st louis


https://ceramembersblog.files.wordpr...01/cera338.jpg

looks like it tied St. Louis and the Metro East up to Bloomington.
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sorry, i fucked that up. anyway they’d string the cars together like regular rapid transit.
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The Metro East is incredibly dispersed and thus doesnt feel like 800k or whatever it is.
Even that 800K is somewhat dubious in my opinion.

The census bureau mashes together 8 counties to make up the IL portion of the STL MSA, but 5 of those counties are extremely rural.

In a more real sense, the metro east consists of 3 counties:
Madison, St. Clair, and Monroe, with a total 2020 population of 557,138.
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