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Old Posted Sep 27, 2022, 10:14 PM
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I think I too would have preferred a large retail option as well, like an Ikea or something along those lines. That said, these warehouses need to go somewhere, and there are not too many sites close to downtown that fit that description. Hopefully the exterior doesn't look like a sack of crap, especially if the land east of Elston ends up being a park or some other public space.
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Old Posted Sep 27, 2022, 10:21 PM
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Dude, when is the last time you actually said something positive about this city? All you've done is complain and moan about everything about Chicago for months now. If you don't like anything about where you live, perhaps you should consider relocating somewhere more to your liking.

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I love Chicago, think its the best city in the country. I definitely applaud the positive, but i don't see an issue with criticism where its needed. I do feel in some ways the city is overachieving (the whole fulton market area boom is great), but I do feel like decisions made by the higher ups in this city just...aren't it.

Like the North Branch of the river is gonna be transformed in the next decade with lincoln yards, the salt shed, wild mile, etc...why are warehouses still allowed on this real estate? I get what left of center is saying tho, I understand it needs to be near downtown which is fine or whatever, but right on the river?

Oh well, i'm excited about all the development near the river. Chicago has no topography, so I just defintely think we should be using the water features to its highest potential (like we do with the lake).
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^ It isnt right on the river though. Something, likely residential since anything else would be impractical, will eventually be built on that skinny piece of land between Elston and the river where the seafood place is. Too bad Elston isn't shifted a little more to the NE to make that land a little easier to develop.
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Old Posted Sep 27, 2022, 10:38 PM
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^ It isnt right on the river though. Something, likely residential since anything else would be impractical, will eventually be built on that skinny piece of land between Elston and the river where the seafood place is. Too bad Elston isn't shifted a little more to the NE to make that land a little easier to develop.
I'm not necessarily against new warehouses going up this close to the river in the city, but this particular location strikes me as a bit odd. As pointed out, this is the North Branch corridor where we have massive development coming up, so why not have a warehouse on a different part of the river? Maybe North of Fullerton?
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That lot is zoned PMD. Any residential is banned
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Old Posted Sep 28, 2022, 12:38 AM
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What modern industrial use is ever going to utilize that sliver of land? The city would be better of carving this land and several others like it out of the PMD and allow residential.
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Old Posted Sep 28, 2022, 2:24 AM
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Maybe the riverfront bar/restaurant that currently exists there will remain?
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Old Posted Sep 28, 2022, 2:57 AM
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No other city wastes riverfront property like Chicago. Anything would be better than that. A Topgolf/Ikea would be great here.
The city needs jobs, too. And would a Topgolf or Ikea be any better "river" friendly (even though the site is not on the river)?
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The city needs jobs, too. And would a Topgolf or Ikea be any better "river" friendly (even though the site is not on the river)?
Yes. Especially Topgolf, I'm in my 20s and my peers love that shit. In my old city Atlanta the one there was packed on a daily basis. Something about food, beer, hanging with friends, and playing some good ol golf gets people going. Plus they're open late. Now imagine that right on the Chicago River, it would be amazing.

An Ikea too would be great...Having to go all the way to Schaumberg for some swedish meatballs or quality furniture isn't it!
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I wouldn't mind a full-on topgolf so close to the city.
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Old Posted Sep 28, 2022, 3:04 PM
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Dude, when is the last time you actually said something positive about this city? All you've done is complain and moan about everything about Chicago for months now. If you don't like anything about where you live, perhaps you should consider relocating somewhere more to your liking.

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Not to mention Chicago activates it's riverfront very well, plus more parkland/development is imminent. Chicago has a lot of riverfront property, it's not all going to be "wild miles", river walks and high-rises.
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Yes. Especially Topgolf, I'm in my 20s and my peers love that shit. In my old city Atlanta the one there was packed on a daily basis. Something about food, beer, hanging with friends, and playing some good ol golf gets people going. Plus they're open late. Now imagine that right on the Chicago River, it would be amazing.

An Ikea too would be great...Having to go all the way to Schaumberg for some swedish meatballs or quality furniture isn't it!
There's nothing inherently better for activating this parcel with an IKEA or topgolf vs a large-scale, multi-level warehouse. all are pretty much monolithic, massive structures that will probably have huge parking lots and a relative lack of pedestrian activation. People don't walk to IKEA, they drive over to be able to put their purchases in their vehicles. Most people going to Topgolf I'd also presume will drive in. Many more high-paying jobs associated with a large warehouse operation, quite frankly.

Put the IKEA and Topgolf a little further north along the North Branch. It might keep the twenty-something's from being able to easily look be "golf" bruhs and "trendy" IKEA knick-knack purchasers but so be it.

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I think there was supposed to be a top golf at damen and elston which has been auto centric always.

I do enjoy top golf and would prefer not to have to go out to Schaumburg. I don’t go to a driving range in the city. If you haven’t been to top golf, you’ll know it’s not exactly a serious place to practice and is 90% a social experience.

You don’t even need much parking because they provide clubs. Myself and others never bring our own
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I think there was supposed to be a top golf at damen and elston which has been auto centric always.

I do enjoy top golf and would prefer not to have to go out to Schaumburg. I don’t go to a driving range in the city. If you haven’t been to top golf, you’ll know it’s not exactly a serious place to practice and is 90% a social experience.

You don’t even need much parking because they provide clubs. Myself and others never bring our own
Correct. It was going to be DriveShack (essentially the same as TG) but COVID threw a wrench in that and now I believe is completely scrapped.
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Amazing. I have been saying for quite a while that the river is a source
of potential beauty for the city and what I read was the businesses along the river will not move because of its location by the Kennedy. What a waste especially because those jobs can perhaps be used to pick up the southside
economically. If Chicago is to maintain its greatness as a city then, to use that famous phrase :" make no small plans" .The problem is that as the city is rebuilding itself it seems to be forgetting the social-economic aspects to planning, Sometimes the planning process should include a political-economic aspect, Is this not way Daley Jr. thought when he assembled the plan of transformation? Frankly without that plan Chicago would not be where it is today. Again please note I say all this because I am a Chicago fan and booster and am always selling the city as a great destination.
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Chicago is such a beautiful city...from Wicker Park

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