2829 Dumaurier Ave | 130m | 40f | Proposed

[GeoNerd]

Brigil has submitted a proposal for a 30 storey tower at the O-Train's Pinecrest station.

https://devapps.ottawa.ca/en/applica...1-0110/details

[passwordisnt123]

Not bad TOD. 330 units, split roughly 60/40 1 bedroom/2 bedroom. 250 parking spaces, which, by the admittedly low standards of Ottawa suburbs, is actually not bad.

[Harley613]

MMMMM YES!!! More RLA garbage to finish the day. I can't get enough of it!

[rocketphish]

Brigil is proposing to demolish the existing one (1) storey commercial building and redevelop the subject property with a 30-storey high-rise, mixed use building consisting of apartment dwelling units and ground floor commercial space. The proposed development will contain a total of 330 dwelling units, 194 of which will be one (1) bedroom units, and 136 of which will be two (2) bedroom units. Three (3) ground floor commercial spaces will contribute to a mix of uses on the subject property. Parking for the proposed development is proposed to be located almost exclusively in an underground garage, with the exception of ten (10) surface parking spaces for visitors and commercial users at the rear of the building.

Architect: RLA Architecture


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[Arcologist]

Why does the last rendering show four other new towers alongside this one? They might be able to squeeze another tower on the site of the one-storey plaza, but unless they plan on demolishing the low-income housing on Ramsey, this render is horribly inaccurate.

[AuxTown]

Originally Posted by Arcologist

Why does the last rendering show four other new towers alongside this one? They might be able to squeeze another tower on the site of the one-storey plaza, but unless they plan on demolishing the low-income housing on Ramsey, this render is horribly inaccurate.

We have a winner! No money to be made from poor people

Who needs low-income housing when you can have high-income housing?

[TransitZilla]

Originally Posted by Arcologist

Why does the last rendering show four other new towers alongside this one? They might be able to squeeze another tower on the site of the one-storey plaza, but unless they plan on demolishing the low-income housing on Ramsey, this render is horribly inaccurate.

Possibly anticipating future re-development by OCH?

[rocketphish]

For the record, here are all the "Planned context" views:

[RideauRat]

30 is the new 27

[J.OT13]

Could the title be edited? There's a typo. It's "Dumaurier" like the cigarette brand, not "Dumarier".

Overall, tower is fine. Podium's boring. Good parking numbers. Nice to see retail replacing retail.

[GeoNerd]

Originally Posted by Arcologist

Why does the last rendering show four other new towers alongside this one? They might be able to squeeze another tower on the site of the one-storey plaza, but unless they plan on demolishing the low-income housing on Ramsey, this render is horribly inaccurate.

Yes, the entire Ramsey/Dumaurier/Foster Farm OCH community is undergoing redevelopment plans. With the train coming in, it’s highly underdeveloped for a TOD area.

[Arcologist]

Wow, this is going to drastically change this part of town!

Hopefully, we get some variation in building heights and designs, or this is going to risk ending up looking for "Projects"-y.

I can't imagine Brigil will be the one redeveloping the entire site? I suspect OCH owns the townhomes along Ramsey?

[rocketphish]

Originally Posted by Arcologist

I suspect OCH owns the townhomes along Ramsey?

Yes they do:
https://www.och-lco.ca/properties/ramsey/
https://www.och-lco.ca/properties/foster-farm/

[GeoNerd]

Originally Posted by Arcologist

Wow, this is going to drastically change this part of town!

Hopefully, we get some variation in building heights and designs, or this is going to risk ending up looking for "Projects"-y.

I can't imagine Brigil will be the one redeveloping the entire site? I suspect OCH owns the townhomes along Ramsey?

Yes, like Rocketphish said OCH does own all the towns and the apartment building. It's a massive piece of land that I'm sure they will parcel off and sell to developers to pay for their own redevelopments on site once they rezone. It could be a lucrative deal for OCH. Good to see.

[roger1818]

Originally Posted by rocketphish

The proposed development will contain a total of 330 dwelling units, 194 of which will be one (1) bedroom units, and 136 of which will be two (2) bedroom units.

Is there no demand for 3 bedroom units? Do they assume that larger families can afford to rent a townhome? Affordable housing for families is going to become more and more of a problem.

[OTSkyline]

I think it boils down to costs and rental prices..

In a new typical apartment or condo, a 1bdr is typically around $1,800 to $2,000 nowadays while a 2bed is like $2,200 to $2,500. I'd imagine the rent for a new 3 bedroom would most likely be in the high 2s or $3,000. At that point, unless you are roommates splitting on rent, it becomes much more attractive for families to purchase a home, even if it's older or outside of the central part of town.

[roger1818]

Originally Posted by OTSkyline

I think it boils down to costs and rental prices..

In a new typical apartment or condo, a 1bdr is typically around $1,800 to $2,000 nowadays while a 2bed is like $2,200 to $2,500. I'd imagine the rent for a new 3 bedroom would most likely be in the high 2s or $3,000. At that point, unless you are roommates splitting on rent, it becomes much more attractive for families to purchase a home, even if it's older or outside of the central part of town.

Except with starting prices at over $600,000 for a small, older home, few families can afford the down payment, let alone get approved for the mortgage.

[Williamoforange]

Originally Posted by roger1818

Except with starting prices at over $600,000 for a small, older home, few families can afford the down payment, let alone get approved for the mortgage.

To put it short there are options in Ottawa for a 3+ bedroom home with costs below $400,000, these option being Condo Townhomes that dot the city and when you compare that to new condo prices, where a 2 bedroom condo is being sold north of $500k, the other options become a lot more enticing.


https://www.realtor.ca/map#ZoomLevel...0&Currency=CAD

[rocketphish]

Brigil unveils plan for 30-storey apartment highrise near Bayshore Shopping Centre

By: OBJ staff
Published: Aug 12, 2021 5:58pm EDT



A Gatineau-based developer that recently made headlines for its plan to build multiple highrises at the site of Ottawa’s former downtown bus terminal wants to construct a mixed-use tower with hundreds of rental apartment units near the Bayshore Shopping Centre.

Brigil recently filed an application with the city for a 30-storey highrise just north of the intersection of Ramsey Crescent and Dumaurier Avenue in the city’s west end. The property, which is currently occupied by a single-storey commercial building, is less than half a kilometre east of the Bayshore mall and just west of the future Pinecrest LRT station.

The developer’s proposal calls for 330 rental apartment suites, including 194 one-bedroom units and 136 two-bedroom apartments. The commercial component would feature three ground-floor units facing Dumaurier Avenue that will cover a total of about 4,700 square feet.

The proposed development would provide 250 parking spaces, with 240 in a three-storey underground lot and the remaining 10 at ground level.

Planning documents say the property has “a high redevelopment potential” because it’s one of the “closest developable lots” to the Pinecrest station, which is slated to open in 2025 as part of phase two of the Confederation Line.

Brigil is not the only developer looking to construct new apartments in the neighbourhood.

Ivanhoe Cambridge, the owner of Bayshore Shopping Centre, in partnership with KingSett Capital secured the green light from a city committee for its plans to construct a 27-storey tower and a 30-storey highrise immediately west of the mall.

For its part, Brigil is seeking a zoning amendment to permit a building height of 95 metres, which exceeds the limit of 18 metres under current zoning bylaws.

The Gatineau real estate firm has a number of other high-profile projects in the application stage in the National Capital Region.

It made a splash last winter when it announced plans to build more than 1,000 housing units along with office and retail space on the site of Ottawa Central Station on Catherine Street, the city’s former bus terminal.

Weeks later, the company said it had reached a deal to buy the Four Points by Sheraton Hotel and Conference Centre in downtown Gatineau in a bid to revitalize the city’s heritage district and develop the parking lot beside the hotel.

https://www.obj.ca/article/real-esta...-near-bayshore

[Harley613]

The property, which is currently occupied by a single-storey commercial building, is less than half a kilometre east of the Bayshore mall and just west of the future Pinecrest LRT station.


It's exactly .92kms from closest brick of the mall to this property