PHILADELPHIA | Lowrise/General Developments Thread

[iheartphilly]

Originally Posted by Redddog

It'd be cool if someone would do a master plan down there like they did for the riverfront.

It's literally a blank slate down there.

If you are talking about the Philly sports complex, there's a master plan floating around the net. Try to google it.

[Kidphilly]

Originally Posted by Milksteak

I want infill too, and have many times argued that the area around the stadiums should be much more than it is (ie numerous entertainment options, offices, apartments, etc.). I've been to more than a few stadiums in a lot of different areas, and some have no surface parking, places like Yankee Stadium, Fenway Park, etc. But those are single stadiums in the middle of the city (and they really, really suck to drive into/out of)...we are different in that we have 3 stadiums/arenas out in the middle of nowhere, getting there by car is still super convenient - love it or hate it, but I believe it was built down there for this very purpose. Places like Pittsburgh have done a good job at balancing multiple stadiums with parking and an entertainment area w/ a bunch of bars and restaurants.

but the area can be developed and still leave vast amounts of surface lots and off set with parking structures.

Look at the huge lot where the Vet used to be, like 3 or 4 square blocks


Even if just the street facing parts were developed along Packer, 11th, Broad even the interior could still have huge amounts of surface parking

also with coordinated traffic flow structured parking can move as quickly as surface on a per car basis; lets not act like people don't get stuck in surface lots for 30-60 minutes in the first place

But even on the edges there it might remove what 10% of the surface spaces; that could easily be offset by a few structures

[Kidphilly]

Something like this

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Vj...Hs&usp=sharing

[Milksteak]

Originally Posted by Kidphilly

but the area can be developed and still leave vast amounts of surface lots and off set with parking structures.

Look at the huge lot where the Vet used to be, like 3 or 4 square blocks


Even if just the street facing parts were developed along Packer, 11th, Broad even the interior could still have huge amounts of surface parking

also with coordinated traffic flow structured parking can move as quickly as surface on a per car basis; lets not act like people don't get stuck in surface lots for 30-60 minutes in the first place

But even on the edges there it might remove what 10% of the surface spaces; that could easily be offset by a few structures

I agree with you and have the same argument....

[mcgrath618]

Have any of you guys recently seen Ridge Ave anywhere from Girard to Fairmount?
The area is booming. Every empty lot on or around the avenue is built on or set to be built upon, and everything is high density. I really think that with some clever zoning, that area could truly be a place to work/live/play.

[PurpleWhiteOut]

Originally Posted by mcgrath618

Have any of you guys recently seen Ridge Ave anywhere from Girard to Fairmount?
The area is booming. Every empty lot on or around the avenue is built on or set to be built upon, and everything is high density. I really think that with some clever zoning, that area could truly be a place to work/live/play.

Yeah theres a ton of luxury stuff going up. As far as I know, most of it is following zoning which calls for retail on the bottom floor. I just moved out of the neighborhood as a renter, but if they can all attract business along with the Met and everything on fairmount ave, francisville is going to be amazing.

[Parkway]

Originally Posted by PurpleWhiteOut

Yeah theres a ton of luxury stuff going up. As far as I know, most of it is following zoning which calls for retail on the bottom floor. I just moved out of the neighborhood as a renter, but if they can all attract business along with the Met and everything on fairmount ave, francisville is going to be amazing.

I'm currently apartment hunting and the only reason I'm not looking at Francisville is grocery store access. As soon as that Aldi is open I'm going to give that area a good long look.

[hammersklavier]

Originally Posted by Parkway

I'm currently apartment hunting and the only reason I'm not looking at Francisville is grocery store access. As soon as that Aldi is open I'm going to give that area a good long look.

The Fresh Grocer up by Broad and Oxford isn't too far from Francisville's NE corner, and the Whole Foods down by 21st and Pennsylvania isn't too far from its SW corner either. But I agree, the city needs more grocery stores just in general.

[ScreamShatter]

Originally Posted by hammersklavier

The Fresh Grocer up by Broad and Oxford isn't too far from Francisville's NE corner, and the Whole Foods down by 21st and Pennsylvania isn't too far from its SW corner either. But I agree, the city needs more grocery stores just in general.

We totally do. Honestly though, I'd like to see more local markets like Riverwards Produce in Fishtown. I love having that near me. The quality of life of having a neighborhood go-to produce/farmers market can't be stated enough. I wish City Hall would launch a program to do that, bring jobs into local neighborhoods, make the businesses non-franchise so money stays in the neighborhoods, and helps end food deserts throughout the city.

[Urbanthusiat]

Condo building at 21st and Hamilton



From this article: https://www.philly.com/real-estate/c...-20190401.html

Seems like they're not going to work with the rail park on "the cut." Fine by me, I think the cut would never be a well-used urban space anyway. Too isolated and dark. It's not like the Parkway is lacking in green space. I would like to see it repurposed for BRT some day.

[Knight Hospitaller]

^I can't tell, but does that green area represent a cap of the rail right of way?

[GtownFriend]

Originally Posted by Knight Hospitaller

^I can't tell, but does that green area represent a cap of the rail right of way?

That's what the article says.
The thing that I find confusing is that this is supposed to be both a "private garden" and "an amenity for the neghborhood"? How does that work?

[Knight Hospitaller]

Originally Posted by GtownFriend

That's what the article says.
The thing that I find confusing is that this is supposed to be both a "private garden" and "an amenity for the neghborhood"? How does that work?

Thanks. The amenity might be the ability of passersby to look over the fence....

[Urbanthusiat]

Originally Posted by Knight Hospitaller

Thanks. The amenity might be the ability of passersby to look over the fence....

Better than a hole in the ground!

[Knight Hospitaller]

Originally Posted by Urbanthusiat

Better than a hole in the ground!

True. I don't think a sunken trail would have much appeal. If some complain about the views from the converted rail viaduct, how much worse is it below grade with less sunshine?

[mcgrath618]

Everyone vote for the Wissahickon!
https://www.aae.org/patients/landmark-contest/

[Hrytsyu]

Originally Posted by mcgrath618

Everyone vote for the Wissahickon!
https://www.aae.org/patients/landmark-contest/

Thank you for making us aware. Votes for Philadelphia/Wissahickon are currently slightly greater than Boston's by a few percentage points; 47 to 44 percent.

[Urbanthusiat]

130-unit project coming to 2601 Poplar: https://www.bizjournals.com/philadel...nity-fund.html

Nothing special, but nice density in an area that can handle some more people.

[mcgrath618]

Originally Posted by Urbanthusiat

130-unit project coming to 2601 Poplar: https://www.bizjournals.com/philadel...nity-fund.html

Nothing special, but nice density in an area that can handle some more people.

Was a bit worried that a certain vacant lot around 26th and Girard was at danger, and I would not be able to indeed attend

Luckily, this is a lot right across the street. Great project for the area.

[Knight Hospitaller]

Glass going up on the circular pavilion at Love Park.