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Guiltyspark · #**18621** Posted **Dec 18, 2011, 3:48 AM**

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Originally Posted by THE BIG APPLE

It's pretty simple yet made so complicated. A building in Denver (mile high city) for example wouldn't be measuerd from (the actual) sea level, or that'd make it the tallest in the world. So buildings are mainly measured from the lobby up to the spire (not antenna). Sea level is just an expression (or 'variable') used to represent the number 0.

And don't forget, a "spire" can be a little pole that has nothing to do with the building and is super skinny, has no purpose and looks thrown on as an afterthought. For instance, you could put a giant spire on a 50 story building and it would be the nations new tallest building. Yay! That's why the well reasoned use roof height.

uaarkson · #**18622** Posted **Dec 18, 2011, 4:13 AM**

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Originally Posted by Guiltyspark

And don't forget, a "spire" can be a little pole that has nothing to do with the building and is super skinny, has no purpose and looks thrown on as an afterthought. For instance, you could put a giant spire on a 50 story building and it would be the nations new tallest building. Yay! That's why the well reasoned use roof height.

Yeah? Where is Burj Khalifa's roof? The Chrysler building? BofA?

Alliance · #**18623** Posted **Dec 18, 2011, 5:05 AM**

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Originally Posted by chris123678

Dumb Question but do they judge the tower height from the basement levels, where the foundations are. Or, ground level, like lobby level?

The real answer to your question is buildings are judged from the lowest significant open air pedestrian entrance. In the case of 1WTC, this is the lobby entrance.

CarlosV · #**18624** Posted **Dec 18, 2011, 7:48 AM**

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Zafor · #**18625** Posted **Dec 18, 2011, 8:01 AM**

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Yes! I love these!

Jularc · #**18626** Posted **Dec 18, 2011, 1:53 PM**

Very cool CarlosV! Can't wait to see that a reality!

Zapatan · #**18627** Posted **Dec 18, 2011, 2:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by Guiltyspark

And don't forget, a "spire" can be a little pole that has nothing to do with the building and is super skinny, has no purpose and looks thrown on as an afterthought. For instance, you could put a giant spire on a 50 story building and it would be the nations new tallest building. Yay! That's why the well reasoned use roof height.

I agree spires are somewhat cheap, but I think the one on this building works well, and it's not skinny, but rather about as wide as my house haha. It's a metal structure nearly the size of the washington monument sitting on top a 1380 foot building, pretty cool I think

CarlosV · #**18628** Posted **Dec 18, 2011, 3:46 PM**

23 degrees!! verrrry cold!

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2-TOWERS · #**18629** Posted **Dec 18, 2011, 3:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by CarlosV

23 degrees!! verrrry cold!

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don't feel bad buddy its 67 out here and thats cold for the desert !!!!lol fantastic shots as always..... amazing how much taller it will be yet

Puzzlecraft · #**18630** Posted **Dec 18, 2011, 4:34 PM**

And there is ice in the pools!

SupertallSkyline88 · #**18631** Posted **Dec 18, 2011, 4:39 PM**

did the construction workers go on strike or something...

CarlosV · #**18632** Posted **Dec 18, 2011, 4:43 PM**

^^^
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CarlosV · #**18633** Posted **Dec 18, 2011, 4:46 PM**

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And there is ice in the pools!

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MadGnome · #**18634** Posted **Dec 18, 2011, 5:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by uaarkson

Yeah? Where is Burj Khalifa's roof? The Chrysler building? BofA?

Whwere's the WTC1 roof for that matter? The thread title and most people say roof, but they're referring to the parapet. The roof is something like 32' below the top of the walls.

NYC GUY · #**18635** Posted **Dec 18, 2011, 5:10 PM**

Wow thats alot of ice

Guiltyspark · #**18636** Posted **Dec 18, 2011, 5:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by uaarkson

Yeah? Where is Burj Khalifa's roof? The Chrysler building? BofA?

If you would look at the Skyscraper pages diagram, these are all clearly stated. Chrysler's roof is at 282 m, the WTC's is 417 m. Burj Khalifa is really the only one that is a little hard to pinpoint (but only because we really don't know that much about it, hell, we don't really even know the actual height last I heard) There last area that looks like real building seems to be around 775 m. People act like it is so hard to find roof height, when pretty much ever building on this website has a listed roof height AND spire height. And none of the pro spire people will answer my question. If 1WTC was 50 m lower at its roof height, but had a ridiculous spire that still made it taller than Sears, would you call that the tallest building in the USA? What if its roof line was 100 m lower? Counting spires just leads to cheating with spires. And this is from a guy who is a big fan of spires. I think 1WTC's spire is going to be fantastic, especially when lit at night.

Oh, and I am not sure which BofA building you are talking about, since there is pretty much one in every city. So I am going to guess the one in NYC. It's roof height is 287.9 m.

Guiltyspark · #**18637** Posted **Dec 18, 2011, 5:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by CarlosV

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Woah, I am surprised that there is ice with the waterfalls still running. When do they plan on turning the falls off for the winter?

IntoTheLens827 · #**18638** Posted **Dec 18, 2011, 6:07 PM**

Well, last night was the first very cold night we had since the water started to flow in the Footprints of the North & South Towers reflecting pools. I do belive that is ice in both of the reflecting pools. I thought that they were going to put something in the water to keep it from freezing. I guess it won't freeze all the way & compleatly solid cause of the flowing water. Here is a pic I saw from one of the webcams this morning. (I actully did a video cause I don't know how to put pictures on here). -Greg (IntoTheLens827).

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meh_cd · #**18639** Posted **Dec 18, 2011, 6:09 PM**

That is is real attractive. Either they didn't have the heating systems ready, or they miscalculated big time. I mean that is ugly as all get out.

Looks like a bunch of scum floating around in the pools.

Maybe it would be simpler just to turn them off for a few months. Either that or they need to fix it.

Guiltyspark · #**18640** Posted **Dec 18, 2011, 6:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by meh_cd

That is is real attractive. Either they didn't have the heating systems ready, or they miscalculated big time. I mean that is ugly as all get out.

Looks like a bunch of scum floating around in the pools.

Maybe it would be simpler just to turn them off for a few months. Either that or they need to fix it.

It may be that whatever system they are using (Heat or chemicals or both) is not ready yet. I hope this isn't what it looks like all winter.